To Build a Universe (A God Quest)

I'm not up to creating humanity at all. I'm up for literally every other race, but not humanity. I even had a little speech about that earlier. That being Said i think we should wait at least one more turn after this finishes up to do so.

Your up for almost any other race BUT humanity. Look man I know humanity can be asshats but so can pretty much every other sentient being. I mean the orcs and goblins are warmonger's, the elves are racist, pompous manipulators, and everyone else has at least one trait that makes them just as bad or almost as bad. Except the dwarves there pretty chill(I mean the usual more neutral-good version).
 
Your up for almost any other race BUT humanity. Look man I know humanity can be asshats but so can pretty much every other sentient being. I mean the orcs and goblins are warmonger's, the elves are racist, pompous manipulators, and everyone else has at least one trait that makes them just as bad or almost as bad. Except the dwarves there pretty chill(I mean the usual more neutral-good version).
My problem isn't them being good or bad. It's their commonality in all fiction when there isn't a logical reason for them to be created over another race. I understand why. But, I'd greatly prefer non-humans especially since We have clear animal and monster-girl ties in our races. With absolutely no human deities. Thus I'd rather not pick vanilla ice cream over the thousands of other ice creams on offer.
 
I do like me some goblins and orc's, maybe some fishfolk too

Maybe combine orcs and fishfolk to create orca or killer wales. both derive their name from Orcus the punisher of broken oaths after all.

Also maybe seahorses people after Nurs image, because Nur is referred to as male while giving birth.
 
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My problem isn't them being good or bad. It's their commonality in all fiction when there isn't a logical reason for them to be created over another race. I understand why. But, I'd greatly prefer non-humans especially since We have clear animal and monster-girl ties in our races. With absolutely no human deities. Thus I'd rather not pick vanilla ice cream over the thousands of other ice creams on offer.

that's mostly because humanity is relatable after all we ourselves are human so usually they're put into a setting as a way to relate to the characters your reading about or watching. Honestly I'm up for all kinds of different races that can be dominant over humanity if there lucky but I want humanity there so i myself can better relate to the setting.

Honestly I don't care what race becomes dominant it could be humans, Elves, Dwarfs, or orcs, I just like having a familiar element in the story. If you know what I mean.
 
that's mostly because humanity is relatable after all we ourselves are human so usually they're put into a setting as a way to relate to the characters your reading about or watching. Honestly I'm up for all kinds of different races that can be dominant over humanity if there lucky but I want humanity there so i myself can better relate to the setting.

Honestly I don't care what race becomes dominant it could be humans, Elves, Dwarfs, or orcs, I just like having a familiar element in the story. If you know what I mean.
And that's why I literally have Humans as a basic particle of the universe for my particle plan. Because it gives them a unique attribute distinguishing them from us normal humans which satisfies me, while keeping the humanity you want. Since they're quite literally human.
 
how about sentient velociraptors? I mean the Jurassic park version not the small ones of actual history. I really want dinosaurs drinking tea.
 
Warmongering orc fish bois... now that's something to think about
I like this idea
One of the things I'm thinking now is that 'Orca' would be very good in holding their breath. This may give them an advantage because they will be able to hunt outside the jellies for very short periods of time.
 
One of the things I'm thinking now is that 'Orca' would be very good in holding their breath. This may give them an advantage because they will be able to hunt outside the jellies for very short periods of time.
Umm the problem with going outside the jellies isn't a lack of breath it's the fact that the void exists outside the jellies. Not to say it's not a bad move seeing as how each jelly is of remarkable size with each one of them potentially having seas allowing for orcas to hunt fish and the like inside them.

Edit: The Void is like outerspace, a whale can't hold their breath out in outerspace. There are actual seas however so that is still valid.
 
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Well yeah it's possible for space travel to be utilized. There is literal Rocket Science after all. However, We shouldn't be focusing on space travel when we're before even the most primitive of lesser races. When that does happen it will be interesting though.
 
Well yeah it's possible for space travel to be utilized. There is literal Rocket Science after all. However, We shouldn't be focusing on space travel when we're before even the most primitive of lesser races. When that does happen it will be interesting though.

Wait thats an actual particle?
 
Rocket Science isn't a particle. But, Seeing as how I'm right now simply focusing on chemistry. Rocket science is a literal science I am seeking to employ in the far future however. Since unlike magic science can't be grouped up into one thing. Or at least I highly doubt it.

I see. Though the thought of them leaving the jelly's only to find dozens more and there gods just floating in space making random baubles makes me laugh.
 
They can probably stuff themselves into a pot and throw themselves out with a rope attached in order to come back.
What's particularly funny about this is it's true.


I see. Though the thought of them leaving the jelly's only to find dozens more and there gods just floating in space making random baubles makes me laugh.
Jellyfish do specifically occassionally link up and allow travel between them. However, this is still humorous.
 
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Of Course. I'll give a demonstration of what I prefer when someone gives me a replacement they want me to do for something.

Thing they want added, thing they want removed if possible, and rationale if they want it. In whatever order you wish. It makes it far easier on my part, and allows others to give their input on the idea.

I do doubt the particle system which I'm employing this particular example will have as many disagreements but for particles being only one thing. and being rendered down to 118 particles.


I hate the nothing particle. It's already established that the void is quite literally nothing from which everything is possible. Thus it takes the role of it, while being contradictory. It is nothing thus it shouldn't even be a particle. Thus I'd rather have the paradox particle. Because of it's contradictory nature, that allows for any exploit that is come up with to have a possible known and already formulated result.

I'd respond with an insightful and unless someone speaks to counter it. I'll be changing the nothing particle to the paradox particle.

or if you're doing a lot of them in short order, or simply don't want to provide a rationale for a simple thing like specific particles. However for things like gods and magic subtypes this method is discouraged.

Change Nothing to Paradox
Nothing -> Paradox
Replace Nothing with Paradox
Paradox <- Nothing
...
...

Is this the rationale i'm doing to make a slight change of something that doesn't currently matter? probably.
 
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The Joy of Creation (Canon Omake)
I really like how you present some form of constructive critique.

It motivated me me want to write a story to contrast with those that star the void.
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The joy existence.
I will record it, like I have done/will do in all the iterations of the past, the future and the present that have never been and never will be.
This version of the first to be called himself Nur. It chose to be a him with many arms. And I loved him, Like I I did all his other iterations that never have been and will never be.
All I could do was describe Nur, myself and the Void as we were all that there was.
I felt a pang of jealousy when Nur became bored of me and impregnated himself with the void. 'Does he not recognize my greatness?' I wrote on a page that I quickly turned so that he would not read it. I hated the Void for taking his virginity. I hated to write about the many experiences that it had which should have been rightfully mine.
Two of the bastards the Void sired stood out to me as a symbol my hatred was mutual. An illiterate child to supplant the function for which the written existed. And a child who would turn many good books into ashes.

Finally he refocused himself on me took me in his hands and he gave me his power. Which I used as ink to write a daughter of my own, someone that will be able to spread teach the written word, so that they will not be supplanted.
"I'm Uhmera! The Guardian of the Golden Reckoning! The Cause of All Creation. She who can read the Book, and knows what is written!" She was the symbol of my love for Nur. I felt disgust The rude flame increased her strength in order to challenge my creation. And in this anger I wrote Ge'Eme who would break all the fates and change all the futures and I gave this child only direction:
'Fortune or Hardship all change should be subject to chance.'

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Edit: Don't want to double post, but the particle idea is honestly really intriguing to me. I'd like there to be 118 basic particles which the world is based on. Each one able to combine with the rest to truly create a bizarre scientific world. These particles would of course be basic particles in name and practice no matter what the concept it might be is. Thus, the particle of a glass of water, and the other particle of water both could truly contribute to the world in their own way. A Glass of water would likely confer more to edibility and consumption whereas normal water would be more associated with seas. Just like the difference of Fresh and Salt Water in our own world. However more tied to the concepts how they actually help operate the world. This would effectively make for a mad chemistry all on it's own. Though I might actually make it like magic is. Where I simply explain the madness of the sciences where they do have principles anyone can follow, and use and it's already there in the background doing it's Thing. But I do really like that concept for a Mad Chemistry, thus I think when I do propose mad science next turn. That's one i'm likely going to be more eager for a talk of the minute changes which concepts should actually be included of the 118 conceptual particles that help contribute chemistry and some physics to the world. Physics would be likely dealing with the forces and how they work. While there's a couple of other sciences that can be included as well since there are more sciences then there are Arts after all.

For Reference these are currently the concepts I'm toying with.
Glass of Water, Wealth, Purple, Life, Loyalty, Companion, Nature, Dog, Hunting, Wolf, Wrath, Animal, Ambitious, Love, Time, Darkness, Chaos, Dream, Fate, Mysterious, Wind, Death, Light, Turtle, Unity, Order, Sound, Music, Potential, Drawings, Knowledge, Insanity, Science, Innovation, Progress, Jellyfish, Travel, Water, Earth, Habitation, Forbidden, Ceramics, Concept, Books, Photographs, Sculptures, Dance, Theater, Application, Games, Superheroes, Infiltration, Coercion, Deceit, Monster-Girl, Progenitor, Dragon, Healing, Radiation, Myth, Horns, Robe, Plasma, Star, Gift, Subterfuge, Human, Vanilla, Ice-cream, Zombie, Primordial, Dice, Discussion, Squid, Alcohol, Pain, Cancer, Numbers, Eye, Empty, Loathing, Void, Paradox, Pleasure, Apathy, Left, Right, Spark, Death Ray, Siren, Warrior, Elemental, Actor, Doppelganger, Duplication, Creation, Hospitality, Youth, Medicine, Immortal, Resurrection, Good, Evil, Vengeance, War, Fertility, Paths, Thresholds, Cooperation, Justice, Oaths, Vegetation, Sun, Dawn, Rain, Hearth, Household, and Moon.

Of course, just like last time. I'd greatly prefer you to tell me any concepts you want me to remove, and concepts you want me to add. Whenever honestly I'll actually take this more seriously once this phase is done.

I think that shorter lists will would allow us to think about these concepts, and use them more easily. The more comprehensive the list the easier it will be to use it later on.

How about consolidating the particles into a simpler more base elements let's call them 'atoms'. These can later be combined into 'molecules' to create the more complex effects.


As a few examples of things that could be compressed
Justice, Oaths and Forbidden could be combined into law or obligation

Sun, Star, Dawn, Moon, Rain could be expressed into 'sky'

Medicine, Healing, Immortal, Resurrection and Nature could be combined be derived from different combinations with life. Life

Hearth and Household created combining Habitation with

Doppelganger, Fertility and Duplication

Pleasure, Apathy, Loathing could be combined into 'emotion'
'Siren' then could be derived from moster-girl and emotion

'Radiation' and 'death ray' could be the result from combining Light with other things

'Dog' and 'Wolf' could result combining 'Animal' with loyalty and something
 
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I really like how you present some form of constructive critique.

It motivated me me want to write a story to contrast with those that star the void.
________
The joy existence.
I will record it, like I have done/will do in all the iterations of the past, the future and the present that have never been and never will be.
This version of the first to be called himself Nur. It chose to be a him with many arms. And I loved him, Like I I did all his other iterations that never have been and will never be.
All I could do was describe Nur, myself and the Void as we were all that there was.
I felt a pang of jealousy when Nur became bored of me and impregnated himself with the void. 'Does he not recognize my greatness?' I wrote on a page that I quickly turned so that he would not read it. I hated the Void for taking his virginity. I hated to write about the many experiences that it had which should have been rightfully mine.
Two of the bastards the Void sired stood out to me as a symbol my hatred was mutual. An illiterate child to supplant the function for which the written existed. And a child who would turn many good books into ashes.

Finally he refocused himself on me took me in his hands and he gave me his power. Which I used as ink to write a daughter of my own, someone that will be able to spread teach the written word, so that they will not be supplanted.
"I'm Uhmera! The Guardian of the Golden Reckoning! The Cause of All Creation. She who can read the Book, and knows what is written!" She was the symbol of my love for Nur. I felt disgust The rude flame increased her strength in order to challenge my creation. And in this anger I wrote Ge'Eme who would break all the fates and change all the futures and I gave this child only direction:
'Fortune or Hardship all change should be subject to chance.'

Ho-ly Nur.

Okay, remain...calm. Breath in...breath...out.

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I can't. I'm wheezing uncontrollably.

I love this Tsunder Golden Reckoning, and the most amusing part is that it interprets Nodheia's increase of flame as a challenge, when it's in fact caused by Uhmera herself. And somehow, you have explained why Uhmera, the entity of Space-time, is also the goddess of Love, and why she's so loyal to Nur. Also, really nice touch of Ge'Eme being the offspring of the Reckoning's anger.

But really nice stuff. I never thought I would get invested in a book, but you did so.

Canon slam! And have your +10.

Btw, Nur x Golden Reckoning is my new OTP.
 
I just realized that I misinterpreted the question because I confused the messenger fish and the sentient stars.

which I believe is the messenger fish or the sentient stars.

Edit2: It was the Sentient Stars.
Uhm, I think that might not be correct. @WallFlower specified that the stars would be the sources of magic, and it doesn't really contradict anything you stated. Regarding it's usability...Well, a power source sustained by the lives and experiences of mortals sounds... Self sustaining.

I still stand behind my original answer, but I think that it would need some clarification. If that is still possible at this stage. otherwise just ignore me.

You can assume that effects that I do not include in my write-ins are not meant to be in my write ins. If I forget something them that is on me:smile:
I desired it but I decided against it when someone expressed distaste against it. Part of the game for me is changing the things in order to make them more appealing to other people.

You are right in that the write-in below is a sustained by, memories and experiences. But the write in below meant to create the sentient star, but it was meant to create a 'the soul' that stores the stuff memories and experiences for later use, like feeding a star.

[] Ask Uhmera to aid you in creating something to store experiences, emotions and memories. These souls shall be unable to be touched by matter, but they can tie themselves to the physical, so that they can experience and influence the world.
 
Alrighty. I'll take those particles and change them. Thank you.
Would Jellyfish, Turtle and Squid be another instances where you think they should fall under animals?

Though to be fair these are meant to be the fundamental particles akin to atoms, and the fact that there is some bleed with each other is actually intentional as we find that in real world atoms. However, it's simply a small thing, and if people want a more consolidated list I'll make it. I made it be 118 different items in reference to the atoms i'm pretty much basing chemistry on.

For Dog I'd likely do a simple Mixture of Animal, Loyalty, and Companion. While Wolf would be Animal Loyalty, and Wrath. At least those mixtures should be simple.
 
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Alrighty. I'll take those particles and change them. Thank you.
Would Jellyfish, and turtles be other instances where you think they should fall under animals?
Yes, I think that can easily fit under animal
Turtles don't haven't been created yet, so I have no suggestion fir that.
But Jellyfish molecule can be made out of Animal, Habitation and maybe some other atoms, like Fertility or something.

Hmm... I wonder what would happen if I created lifeless turtle worlds that the jellyfish would need to hunt in order to gain stones for mountains...
Their inhabitants would play a role in mining their shell as the turtles....

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Jelly fish start their lives as larva the filled with mostly air these larva will seek a solid to attach to and mature into the polyp stage. They become polyps by turning then they over time 'Medusa' stage.
They will then hunt for materials that they will be able to use in order to let their inhabitants create art that will produce more children. (Pottery to store essentials for their children, Theater to turn an actor into a larva.)
Occasionally the jellyfish in the medusa stage will link up in order to exchange cultures and recourses. Which might mean that their inhabitants go to war, but might also be completely peacefull depending on their inhabitants.

I will need to think how I these ideas could be implemented.

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EDIT: My brain is preparing an omake, if it succeeds then the ''boring details' of fantasy ecology can be reached completely via current creations and concepts, if the magic system succeeds.

EDIT 2: Should have said 'most of' in my last edit.
 
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I just realized that I misinterpreted the question because I confused the messenger fish and the sentient stars.




I still stand behind my original answer, but I think that it would need some clarification. If that is still possible at this stage. otherwise just ignore me.


You are right in that the write-in below is a sustained by, memories and experiences. But the write in below meant to create the sentient star, but it was meant to create a 'the soul' that stores the stuff memories and experiences for later use, like feeding a star.
Ugggggh, dear Nur.

So, you are telling me that the Write In wasn't about Sentient Stars empowered by the experiences of mortals, but for the creation of souls?

WallFlower, my dear...Why did you bring me the pain of Knowledge? Don't you know sweet ignorance is the last barrier between a man's fragile mind and insanity?

Damn, that's a nice quote. Sounds Lovecraftian.
 
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