Romv
A Memory of TREES
@Powerofmind Why are our Shrine Extensions under Fear on our character sheet?
She might get legend by being there and trick the Crone though. Could we get Seski, the villagers and sea-pixies to collaborate?
Uhh... yes... I may have rushed my edit X(Uh...we can still build a second Creche in Saiga's village can't we?
That sounds compatible with Moon Boosted Trickery Inspiration? The Sea-pixies might pretend to be us and then she'd be chasing octopus all day.She might get legend by being there and trick the Crone though. Could we get Seski, the villagers and sea-pixies to collaborate?
Wow. A 14 procs moonbeam now? That's 28% of the roll table, plus whatever we get from crits.Read the Future
Astrology rolled 14, 10
Minor Legend x2
Fear rolled 14, 10
Gained 8 Legend
We can just force the population to make these sorts of checks for us!? Does that mean we kinda-sorta don't need crafting/art after all and can just rely on our mortals to do this? At least when working with cheap material, anyway.Demand figurines!
Fear rolled 13
Mortal Craft rolled 14, 4, 17, 10. 7, 16
Gained (6) Bone Figurines (2 Very Poor, 1 Poor, 1 Moderate, 1 Good)
And we STILL lost more DE from the Rite decreasing Fear than we gained from income. The losses are about double the gains, actually. On a turn where we literally had one negative action, which we rolled a 7 on. @veekie - I was willing to go with the rite largely because I thought it would boost growth this turn. But honestly, I want to turn it off and keep it off until we actually start getting turns when it would be at least net-positive DE wise. Even then, I'm skeptical - since I don't like reducing our apparently Fear on applicable rolls.
Apparently the 14, 10 we rolled we enough to get us very useful info, here.You've had such a productive year that by the time you search the skies you nearly forget to check about the threat coming soon. With the appointed time nearing, it is much easier to tell that it is Attrouska, the Crone! She has been preparing to come this far for some years now, and your moon-focused efforts have sped up her time-table. She will come with a terrible frozen disc, made just for you, etched with squiggles and pictures. Alongside her will be two stern men, carrying a great drum and a wooden flute. You must be far away when the time comes, because she will not dare harm your shrines or people directly for fear of Saiga's wrathful vengeance. You do not like your chances of confronting the picture-disk and escaping the same...
Mortals are making checks with a skill of 2(which is functionally a skill of 0 without the untrained bonus due to the tier gap), so it'd take a long time if we weren't abusing Harvest Moon to upclass the materials. I mean, look, their best roll was a double 8 sixteen, and it's only Good.We can just force the population to make these sorts of checks for us!? Does that mean we kinda-sorta don't need crafting/art after all and can just rely on our mortals to do this? At least when working with cheap material, anyway.
I'm convinced now anyways. We need the Fear spike to be able to run the quest.And we STILL lost more DE from the Rite decreasing Fear than we gained from income. The losses are about double the gains, actually. On a turn where we literally had one negative action, which we rolled a 7 on. @veekie - I was willing to go with the rite largely because I thought it would boost growth this turn. But honestly, I want to turn it off and keep it off until we actually start getting turns when it would be at least net-positive DE wise. Even then, I'm skeptical - since I don't like reducing our apparently Fear on applicable rolls.
Forget Gaerig getting it, Attrouska has Greater Aspect of Mother-in-Law.Saiga: I hear that something dangerous is about to descend on my lands next year!
Attrouska: What a coincidence! I was just planning to visit!
Because you unlock extensions through the fear score.@Powerofmind Why are our Shrine Extensions under Fear on our character sheet?
Really I just said fuck it when I noticed the error (I'd counted the wrong number of successes. I'd already edited the charsheet and marked it on the turn update. This was laziness, not actual easy rolls.I'm starting to suspect that our moonbeam enhancement may be broken...
Yes you can, it's lightly growth negative, and never gets better than a +5 bonus to final value. It's okay, but trading or taking from other spirits is naturally more effective.We can just force the population to make these sorts of checks for us!? Does that mean we kinda-sorta don't need crafting/art after all and can just rely on our mortals to do this? At least when working with cheap material, anyway.
It nearly doubled your personal contribution to growth, netting you the third point that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise.And we STILL lost more DE from the Rite decreasing Fear than we gained from income. The losses are about double the gains, actually. On a turn where we literally had one negative action, which we rolled a 7 on. @veekie - I was willing to go with the rite largely because I thought it would boost growth this turn. But honestly, I want to turn it off and keep it off until we actually start getting turns when it would be at least net-positive DE wise. Even then, I'm skeptical - since I don't like reducing our apparently Fear on applicable rolls.
BUT THEN THEY WOULD ONLY NEED TO HIT IT'S WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!
Okay. That makes me happy. I was actually worried for a bit that the 18 -> remove sterility result for the cost of 1 sustenance was overblown; it seemed to be too massive a result given the dirt-cheap price per roll. In fact, on 30 rolls (3 Ambrosia), the highest will be around that roll range on average.Just one. It's not a fairly disseminated bloodline, and really because you rolled over 100 you skipped the entire process of re-breeding out the original bloodline's sterility (you could have gotten this result if you took silverman partners enough times overall before they died out).
Giant monsters cost Sustenance, which we're using to run away.No, we run away and take all of our fun stuff with us, and then go make a ridiculously huge Octopus monster to go walk over to her village and wreck it while she's away. Or shapeshift into a person (The giant octopus, that is) and seduce her villagers into ruin, one way or another.
Oh, hey, if smol octopi with mischief are sea pixies, would hueg octopi with mischief be sea fey?
I would also be moderately okay with a giant enemy crab.
That's why we tie a villager to the weakpoint when nobody's looking! As long as Attrouska doesn't hit it the Giant Enemy Crab is invincible, but if she does then she now has to fight Saiga as well!BUT THEN THEY WOULD ONLY NEED TO HIT IT'S WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!
She has Aspect of Motherhood and is clearly the Lawmaker origin...Forget Gaerig getting it, Attrouska has Greater Aspect of Mother-in-Law.
Arithmetic doesn't check out.Gained (6) Bone Figurines (2 Very Poor, 1 Poor, 1 Moderate, 1 Good)
I am not too confident in her chances to pull that off. She is only 4 after all.She might get legend by being there and trick the Crone though. Could we get Seski, the villagers and sea-pixies to collaborate?
She's inland, so probably by walking.I am not too confident in her chances to pull that off. She is only 4 after all.
So is the Crone coming by land or by the sea?
Is the tier gap still just -2 to skills, @Powerofmind, or is it something more hefty - say a two-point STRONG bonus?Mortals are making checks with a skill of 2(which is functionally a skill of 0 without the untrained bonus due to the tier gap), so it'd take a long time if we weren't abusing Harvest Moon to upclass the materials. I mean, look, their best roll was a double 8 sixteen, and it's only Good.
Just... broadly speaking, it is a SUPER weak choice; I can see it making sense if you are stuck in Saiga-esc runt when you just can't do anything exciting, but for a healthy spirit I can't see it working out well.I'm convinced now anyways. We need the Fear spike to be able to run the quest.
Well I'm glad you did one last time because,
Revenge is a dish best served immediately..
Stop hitting me! Please! Should be 2 moderates.
Mortals roll at 2.5 skill, approximately 2 less than the mortal maximum (you are assumed to take from people with actual talent).Is the tier gap still just -2 to skills, @Powerofmind, or is it something more hefty - say a two-point STRONG bonus?
Anyway, rolling at 0 without the penalty would be totally fine; especially given how many rolls we get per decree. Obviously we wouldn't give them amber to craft or whatnot, but for any material we can get freely? It is free figurines.
Just... broadly speaking, it is a SUPER weak choice; I can see it making sense if you are stuck in Saiga-esc runt when you just can't do anything exciting, but for a healthy spirit I can't see it working out well.
We did the fish action twice this turn and only got a 10% chance of getting the fish aspect.Fish...well there's the potential Fish aspect problems, but it's an idea.
I am not too confident in her chances to pull that off. She is only 4 after all.
Ah. I didn't get that it was growth negative. Yeah, that would balance things, at least if the malus is non-trivial (around what we would get as a bonus from 15 DE of growth blessings, basically).Yes you can, it's lightly growth negative, and never gets better than a +5 bonus to final value.
Really? I didn't expect the effect on growth to be nearly as large. Well, that does make me feel better about it - though I wonder how it will scale if we were to sacrifice 4 fear instead of 2 before pumping growth...It nearly doubled your personal contribution to growth, netting you the third point that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Yeah, the 2 point strong penalty is much more hefty than just -2 skill. I'm quite happy with how it preserves the tier-gap mechanism at a significant level.In contested checks against mortals or higher tier gods, the penalty applied is a 2 point strong penalty, increasing randomness against the higher-tier being (which properly represents the occasional underdog hero story).