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There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

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We probably shouldn't be too ambitious with this. The budget isn't going to be high enough for really good special effects all the time. Especially with having to pay actors for 22 episodes.
 
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This has given me the idea to redesign MODOK ala Baron Harkonnen, which would be a sight to see
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I still think making the face a hologram or a liquid-metal construct a la Terminator 2, and making the arms into robotic graspers or some sort of tractor beam, would make him leaps and bounds more visually compelling than the giant baby head of the comics.

Edit: …he said, immediately after someone brought up budget concerns. Fair enough, the special effects to do all that will be expensive. But MODOK isn't the sort of villain who will be appearing constantly to directly drive the plot along; he likes to work through devices and underlings. So it should be all right as long as we don't overdo it with his screentime. And if it's totally unworkable there are always the Harkonnen or Zola approaches.
 
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Does no armor today bring back Hammer?

Audiences loved him and he could fit really well as a shameless scoundrel that helps us but will scrounge for any advantage for himself.

Like Quark on ds9.
 
bigking321 said:
Does no armor today bring back Hammer?

Audiences loved him and he could fit really well as a shameless scoundrel that helps us but will scrounge for any advantage for himself.
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Honestly, I want to save Justin Hammer for Armor Wars. When Tony's armor is confiscated during Armor Wars, I want someone to be brought in to reproduce the armor for the US military. Who better than our lovable, narcissistic, and shameless scoundrel Justin Hammer to fuel the US military's warring capacity? :V
 
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Honestly, I want to save Justin Hammer for Armor Wars. When Tony's armor is confiscated during Armor Wars, I want someone to be brought in to reproduce the armor for the US military. Who better than our lovable, narcissistic, and shameless scoundrel Justin Hammer to fuel the US military's warring capacity? :V
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Agree here, we can also give a nod to Hammer in this show with maybe some fellow soldiers having Hammer Tech guns or something.
 
[X] Plan: No Armor Today, Armor Tomorrow

Another thing I would love to see for this MCU, it's for Tony Stark "accidentaly" starting a new Arms Race.

Which it was referenced at the beginning of IM2 but it was rapidly drop off and forgotten.

With Russia and China being direct competidors, both trying to develope "Iron Man technology" with local resources, while stealing as much information as they can from the source.

With others like India, Iran and North Korea trying the same, but having worst progress or just waiting to rip off the russian/chinese designs.

And even the rest of NATO (lead by Great Britrain and France) not being too happy with the idea of the US having such exclusive advantage. Be it wanting to buy and produce equivalent products, or just developing their own alternatives.

Like this Nanosuits from the first Crysis:

US:


North Korea:
 
I think it's good if AIM & Ten Rings create alternatives / counters to Iron Man technology for now instead of actually making their own armor.
 
bigking321 said:
We probably shouldn't be too ambitious with this. The budget isn't going to be high enough for really good special effects all the time. Especially with having to pay actors for 22 episodes.
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With 22 episodes, we could get away with 2-3 full episode flashbacks to Rhodie and Tony as MIT students, especially if we had AIM trying to recruit them or get up to something on campus, or make Aldrich someone they knew and interacted with.
 
[X] Plan: No Armor Today, Armor Tomorrow

Has anyone thought that this is literally a way to get a showrunner for another season?
"Here are good characters for you, their dynamics and interests. Prescribe their history, create a world and a history. Cool flights in power armor? Sorry, it's for the new season which you can of course continue if it is."
 
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Walking the tight rope - Planning Session: War Machine (August 2010)
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    • The Winning Vote said:
    [X] Plan: No Armor Today, Armor Tomorrow
    -[X] [Length] Agree to his request and give him a 22 episode season.
    -[X] [Antagonist] Aldrich Killian and A.I.M.
    -[X] [Antagonist] Raza and the Ten Rings
    -[X] [Count] Two villains will show that the situation is more complicated than "just punch the guy."
    -[X] [Armor Wars] No, you have plans for that storyline.
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    When the Marvel Executives heard about J. Michael Strazcynski working with you in a Marvel TV show the reactions were somewhat mixed. There were those who were ecstatic that he had come back, even if only for a Marvel TV show and those who could only remember how he quit in disgust all those year ago. But all in all the climate seemed more optimistic than angry.

    That all changed when the news came that one of the conditions for him to come back was a 22 episode long season, which once more turned the Execs dials to anger!

    Negotiation Roll: 77

    And fighting back the backlash was a bitch and a half! Once more you were being bombarded with criticism, being brought to bear for trying to go beyond the scope that had been given to you. You were being accused of once more spending too much money over something that would not bring the same amount of results, of overreaching, etc., etc.

    It took nearly everything you had (and even more besides) to placate them and convince them that there was a method to what they were calling "madness". That this being the first TV series it had to be special, that you knew what you were doing.

    And eventually you succeeded.

    God please don't let you be wrong.

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    Talking with Michael about the development of the story calms your nerves. He truly is a master when it comes to this kind of development. He has already made a rough draft of what he's planning for the two organizations selected and where to take them from there.

    First off, the Ten Rings. This one was a bit difficult as it had been introduced in the Iron Man movie with Raza, but you figured that so long as you don't introduce the Mandarin you won't have that many problems with Favreau.

    Furthermore, there is the fact that the organization had its greatest development in the Shang Chi comics rather than Iron Man so they have an element of mysticism and magic that could also be added to their origin, perhaps even expanded.

    [] [The Ten Rings] The Ten Rings origins are mystical and supernatural. Though they have since started using technology they also retain much of their previous knowledge and magical capabilities.
    [] [The Ten Rings] The Ten Rings origins are mystical and supernatural. However all that remains from there are the traditions and beliefs as they now focus more on technology and political connections.
    [] [The Ten Rings] The Ten Rings origins have nothing to do with the mystical or the supernatural. Keep them just as they are in the movie.

    Raza was seen as the leader of the Ten Rings, however you could make use of some of the other members of the organization and adapt them…Not that there are many but you could also borrow from Iron Man's rogue gallery.

    [] [TR Members] No, just keep Raza as the only memorable one.
    [] [TR Members] Yes, I'd like to adapt other characters to the Ten Rings:
    -[] [TR Members] Li Ching-Lin could serve as a good plant and double agent.
    -[] [TR Members] Aaron Chord, also known as Midnight's Fire could appear as one of their agents overseas.
    -[] [TR Members] Razor Fist has potential. You may want to do something about the hands though.
    -[] [TR Members] Someone Else: Write In

    The second organization is a bit more difficult however. AIM (Advanced Idea Mechanics) has been a one of Marvel's most notorious and famous organizations, right up there with HYDRA. That it will play an important role as the later season's antagonists, but their presentation is going to be important.

    [] [AIM] AIM has already been outed as a terrorist organization, if one that operates within the United States and has immense influence among the country's main politicians and Businessmen.
    [] [AIM] AIM has yet to be outed as a terrorist organization, it's instead seen as a benevolent new company that is pushing the boundaries of science; no one connects the dots until near the end.
    [] [AIM] AIM does not exist yet. During the entire season we see small movements that culminate with the founding of AIM and it being declared a terrorist organization.

    Aldrich Killian…you're not yet sure why you chose him to be on AIM, but he does fit perfectly what with his creation of the Extremis virus and how popular that storyline became. Either way, he would serve as a perfect face for the entire organization for now. But it could never hurt to add some more memorable characters, right?

    [] [AIM Members] No, just keep Killian as the only memorable one.
    [] [AIM Members] Yes, I'd like to adapt other characters to AIM:
    -[] [AIM Members] Maya Hansen aided Killian in the research and development of the Extremis virus.
    -[] [AIM Members] The Bulldozer, the robotic creation of AIM might have a role here.
    -[] [AIM Members] Arthur Nagan was a bit goofy, but he would fit perfectly with a bunch of weirdoes.
    -[] [AIM Members] Someone Else: Write In

    This show plans to expand the MCU and also serve as a connection for future series. For that to work you need characters who also appear in movies, but also don't cost that much. Both Senator Stern and Agent Coulson are already scheduled to appear, the actors agreeing for a reasonable amount. But more characters are also planned for the overall story, like that of Bethany Cabe, who Michael wants to adapt as a sort of Agent of the government and liaison to the military and the War Machine in particular.

    You could also try and have some small time cameos for other characters that have already appeared in the MCU. Some of them might be even willing to do it cheaply, though others might ask for the moon.

    [] [Cameo] Virginia "Pepper" Potts
    [] [Cameo] Barbara "Bobbie" Morse
    [] [Cameo] Clint Barton
    [] [Cameo] Nick Fury
    [] [Cameo] Black Widow
    [] [Cameo] Silent
    [] [Cameo] General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross
    [] [Cameo] Someone Else: Write In

    With the decisions taken you need to find a good title for the show. It's just a darn shame that so far you've only thought of a variation of the character's hero name.

    [] [Title] War Machine
    [] [Title] The War Machine
    [] [Title] Something Else: Write In
     
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    • I reckon we could go for at least one more notable villain in both organizations, given the length of the show. Maya Hansen and Li Ching-Lin would make good choices, IMO, but I'm free to changing it up.
     
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    For titles, something like: Marvel Presents: War Machine, or Marvel's War Machine to make it really clear it is a marvel show, and then we can use the same pattern for future shows.
     
    Nystical said:
    I think Bulldozer could be good if we want to show other organizations trying to make alternative weapons to sell to the military with Stark gone.
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    Maybe save him for Armor Wars, but convince me, and I'll add him to my plan.

    [X] Plan Guns, Gurus, Guerillas, and Glory
    -[X] [The Ten Rings] The Ten Rings origins are mystical and supernatural. However all that remains from there are the traditions and beliefs as they now focus more on technology and political connections.
    -[X] [TR Members] Yes, I'd like to adapt other characters to the Ten Rings:
    --[X] [TR Members] Li Ching-Lin could serve as a good plant and double agent.
    -[X] [AIM] AIM has yet to be outed as a terrorist organization, it's instead seen as a benevolent new company that is pushing the boundaries of science; no one connects the dots until near the end.
    -[X] [AIM Members] Yes, I'd like to adapt other characters to AIM:
    --[X] [AIM Members] Maya Hansen aided Killian in the research and development of the Extremis virus.
    -[X] [Cameo] Barbara "Bobbie" Morse
    -[X] [Cameo] Silent
    -[X] [Cameo] Clint Barton
    -[X] [Cameo] Wonder Man
    -[X] [Title] War Machine
     
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    [X] Plan Guns, Gurus, Guerillas, and Glory

    Man i hope we didnt blow all of our good will with the execs by doing a 22 ep series.
     
    overmind said:
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    Maybe we could get Simon Williams to cameo with him doing an in-universe commercial or interview as "Wonder Man" that is seen on a TV by a few characters? Could be funny way to have people react to it on the TV or something, really push the point home that the world is changing and in universe perspective of supers is developing.
     
    Nystical said:
    Maybe we could get Simon Williams to cameo with him doing an in-universe commercial or interview as "Wonder Man" that is seen on a TV by a few characters? Could be funny way to have people react to it on the TV or something, really push the point home that the world is changing and in universe perspective of supers is developing.
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    This could be like those "Rappin' with Cap" PSA's in the MCU. Show them occasionally in other MCU media, but not too often that it get's tiring.

    Anyway, I love the idea.
     
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