There is no emotion... (A Jedi Order Quest)
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Synod of Dantooine PT. 2 3944 BBY
Voikirium
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[X] Dantooine
[X] Yes. Send an independent fact finding group. (+15 PP, submit a list of Jedi)
[X] Yes. Send an independent fact finding group. (+15 PP, submit a list of Jedi)
"Crusades are the Mandalorian option."
"But are the Mandalorians always wrong?"
"Yes." Atton speaks up from the small cloud of students he's trained over the past few years, most of them strapped with blasters. "How about Coruscant? It might be nice to live somewhere where people have heard of showers."
"Coming from you?" Mical speaks up. "Anyway, Dantooine is clearly the best option for us. The Mandalorians got as far as they did because the Jedi were so thin out on the Rim, and the Sith got as far as they did because the Republic is thin out here too. Clearly somebody needs to pick up the slack, and as we cannot control the Senate, as a show of good faith, I say it should be us."
"Two voices, echoing together, propagating as a chorus, a song, that moves as a beast, its tendons cut. One note that cannot be cut from the other, one voice that cannot be strained apart."
"Would just saying what you mean be too hard, Visas?"
If she had eyes, the Miralukan would roll them. Everyone, from the Initiates up, can feel that. "If we are stuck on the Republic's capital, we become tied to the Republic, not simply as oathbearers but as patsies. I do not care where we hail from, so long as it is not overly tied to them."
"Atris said," Brianna speaks, "That she always felt empty on Coruscant, and I am inclined to believe her. Ossus cannot be trusted, for everyone remembers that as a place of the Jedi and will burn it if they get the chance. What of Tython?"
"What of it?" Bastila speaks. "A few scraps of coordinates that may or may not lead to the planet is hardly a promising start."
"I say Dantooine." And then Juhani leans back, crosses her arms over her chest.
"Dantooine." And with that you seal the debate.
"Fine. So long as the matter is settled. Now then, as to the matter of the Fact finders..."
"Who the hell are we sending?"
"Atton!"
"What? Are we, or are we not, stretched thin? And did you all, or did you not, forget to actually say who you wanted to send on this boondogle?"
"Not in front of the Initiates."
"Furthermore I mentioned who I'd send."
"Oh for-- look, not right now. Right now, there is a matter of no slight importance. The Ossus facility is closing to reaching full capacity as a temple. Which means a whole Council. How were we planning on filling that?"
Two matters to vote on:
[] Write in WHO are you going to send on the fact finding mission. (Since you all forgot last time
)How are you going to create the Councils of temples?
[] The High Council will select the members themselves.
[] Jedi from those temples will choose the Councils for their worlds themselves.
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Dantooine enshrined as seat of Jedi High Council. (+2 Recruitment Dice in Outer Rim, -1 Vigilance required in Outer Rim)
Moratorium for 12 Hours.
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
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I say the High Council selects members for the lesser Temple Councils 1) to avoid any potential schisms from happening in the future and that can happen don't deny it, we can't afford that since the next big threat for us is the Sith Empire that comes in a century or two. 2) Again we don't really have the numbers for the lesser temples to decide who's on there councils so best we decide fort he time being.
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maybe this but with a mention that this will change once the order gets big enough?
ConfusedCanuck
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Good point that will change but again that's a long ways down the road.
Barondoctor
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Fact-finding. We want someone to be able to be the overt presence of the Jedi and someone else who knows how to use that sort of 'distraction' and lurk around in the shadows. We also probably want as many mid-level agents as we can reasonably spare. We're there to learn things and not get blindsided and taken out.
I actually like Atton and Mical for this. Mical can talk and do all the charisma-and-lightning-rod things Jedi do, and Atton could plausibly predict a first-level response from the criminal underworld, along with assessing if anybody there might be able to pull a second-level response (the thing you do if you know the first-level response is guarded against).
Far as the second one? The High Council can choose for now, with the caveat that at such point as a temple can actually manage to have a full council of Masters (at least 5; 3, while allowing for one of each specialty, is not a council and 4 is too easy to create ties) they may petition the High Council to form their own council but it must have at least one seat expressly reserved for someone the High Council has chosen.
I actually like Atton and Mical for this. Mical can talk and do all the charisma-and-lightning-rod things Jedi do, and Atton could plausibly predict a first-level response from the criminal underworld, along with assessing if anybody there might be able to pull a second-level response (the thing you do if you know the first-level response is guarded against).
Far as the second one? The High Council can choose for now, with the caveat that at such point as a temple can actually manage to have a full council of Masters (at least 5; 3, while allowing for one of each specialty, is not a council and 4 is too easy to create ties) they may petition the High Council to form their own council but it must have at least one seat expressly reserved for someone the High Council has chosen.
Here is the list I voted for last time, and the reasons for the choice: Councilor Juhani, Consular Atris, 2 Jedi Sentinels, 1 Jedi Guardian, 1 Jedi Consular, 5 Padawans.
The selection of Juhani to lead the mission is because of her past history as a slave, giving her a perspective into the situation that others might lack. The whole party is based around having different perspectives of the situation so as to avoid bias, and the Padawans are as important to that as the full trained Jedi due to their lack of experience leaving their minds open. The group would have 25 Combat, 34 Wisdom, and 31 Diplomacy, which will allow the mission to have a better chance of success.
The selection of Juhani to lead the mission is because of her past history as a slave, giving her a perspective into the situation that others might lack. The whole party is based around having different perspectives of the situation so as to avoid bias, and the Padawans are as important to that as the full trained Jedi due to their lack of experience leaving their minds open. The group would have 25 Combat, 34 Wisdom, and 31 Diplomacy, which will allow the mission to have a better chance of success.
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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Oh, this bunch of doofuses.
Told ya.
I like the sound of this.
Voikirium
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By the time something is a temple, it will have enough Jedi, who live there, to merit a Council.
Like, remember, the Dantooine Enclave, prior to renovations, could only hold ~20 Jedi but still had a Council, just of three people instead of the Coruscanti twelve.
Voikirium
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Vote is Open!
That's a very good way to cause Problems when the local Jedi want one thing but the Council approved Jedi want another.
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What about two thirds being appointed Jedi while the last third is local Jedi?
Barondoctor
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This is exactly what I was trying to avoid with the one High Council representative. Ties are bad. One High Council representative being mandatory allows us to maintain some degree of doctrinal control while still allowing for local Jedi to mostly handle local problems and allows us to spread our "hand-picked" Jedi wider. It also shows a degree of trust in our students while giving us a heads-up to rein things in if need be.
Voikirium
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Still has, essentially, the same problem.
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
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[X] Councilor Mical, Consular Atris, 2 Jedi Sentinels, 1 Jedi Guardian, 1 Jedi Consular, 5 Padawans
[X] The High Council will select the members themselves.
[X] The High Council will select the members themselves.
Barondoctor
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One. Seat. One.
This allows for the local Jedi (who, by the way, we've trained and we should probably trust) to largely be in control of local matters. If they get way off-base, our one hand-picked representative can report back to us. If there's something bigger than they can handle? Our one hand-picked representative can report back to us. They can also serve as a mouthpiece for Jedi orthodoxy (and ideally also speak to why the orthodoxy is that way and/or if any variations would be an essential matter that requires unity or a non-essential matter that allows for some liberty).
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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[X] Councilor Juhani, Councilor Mical, 3 Jedi Sentinels, 1 Jedi Guardian, 1 Jedi Consular, 5 Padawans.
[X] The High Council will select the members themselves.
For who we should send, I think Mical is better option than Atris, since Atris is really bad at diplomacy, where as Mical is one of our best. And one extra Sentinel, fact finding missions are their specialty.
[X] The High Council will select the members themselves.
For who we should send, I think Mical is better option than Atris, since Atris is really bad at diplomacy, where as Mical is one of our best. And one extra Sentinel, fact finding missions are their specialty.
Barondoctor
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[X] Councilor Atton, Councilor Mical, 2 Jedi Sentinels, 1 Jedi Guardian, 1 Jedi Consular, 5 Padawans.
[X] The High Council will select the members themselves.
Mical as beacon of justice, Atton as investigator of skulduggery, each approach represented, along with some "beginner's luck" chances.
[X] The High Council will select the members themselves.
Mical as beacon of justice, Atton as investigator of skulduggery, each approach represented, along with some "beginner's luck" chances.
Icipall
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That is partly why I decided to put Juhani there with Mical. Plus, Juhani is familiar with the situations like the ones they're going to see in Hutt Space, plus also rather good with diplo and very stealthy.
TaliesinSkye
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I suppose if people want a compromise we could let the local temples choose who they want, but it has to be someone who wasn't trained there. The idea being to give choice but prevent localities from getting too isolated.
As for who to send, remember that we can't afford to pull too many people away from regular patrols.
As for who to send, remember that we can't afford to pull too many people away from regular patrols.