There is no emotion... (A Jedi Order Quest)

Wow, those are pretty hefty.

Until I do a little research, I'm definitely leaning towards Nomi. From what I know of her, she was just a great Jedi, a great person, and one hell of a master of her skills.

Bastila was given to her to help train her battle meditation, I believe, and she was capable of going up against Exar Kun, iirc.

Yeah, I'm going to need to find some good reasons not to pick Nomi xD.
 
@PlazmaStryke

Politely? Don't pick Oodan Ur. He was the over-simplifier of the code that made it break people.

I'd be inclined to yeet his 'cron somewhere far off and file with the Republic that it's a hazardous radiation zone. Shouldn't we do that with Sith Zone?
How do I, uh, put this gently?

I think the timeline of the Original Vs. Changed code is sort of dumb. So, you know, in this verse, the first mantra was, you know, "There is no emotion, there is peace" and all that, and the "emotion yet peace" thing came later.
 
I think we have plenty of sentinels as it is... and I'm not sure raiding to forget is the healthiest thing, so I advise Atton and Visas go for the medical healing option.

Holocron... Nomi or Odan-Ur, both are pretty solid TOTJ fun.

Also update on gestating omake idea! It is now slightly past the gestation idea and has an outline!
 
Aaaand awake again. Alrighty then. Thinking I'll go with the medical one or ransacking. Medical because it's an immediate help to developing Dantooine. Always nice. Also I enjoy the idea of Atton and Visas, the two arguably most marred (see what I did there?) Individuals working together to bring healing to their new Order.

Ransacking is entirely narrative based, since I kinda wanna see the two start clearing out Sith Temples together and how their interaction might play out.

Anyone else have thoughts on that?
 
Aaaand awake again. Alrighty then. Thinking I'll go with the medical one or ransacking. Medical because it's an immediate help to developing Dantooine. Always nice. Also I enjoy the idea of Atton and Visas, the two arguably most marred (see what I did there?) Individuals working together to bring healing to their new Order.

Ransacking is entirely narrative based, since I kinda wanna see the two start clearing out Sith Temples together and how their interaction might play out.

Anyone else have thoughts on that?

You could always roll the dice. There is two options you like so roll a D2 via Roller.
 
[O] Healing and Aspiration: Atton and Visas argue to beef up the medical resources on Dantooine and Telos. (+20 Dantooine/Telos)

Made my decision. While ransacking Sith Temples sounds really cool and junk, in terms of character growth it would be a backstep. There's a time to attack, but Atton and Visas more than most, need to take a step back and enjoy the rare peace afforded to them. Also it's them fighting against the enemy to forget their own troubles, which could develop into a much worse problem later as they refuse to deal with things.
 
So, you know, in this verse, the first mantra was, you know, "There is no emotion, there is peace" and all that, and the "emotion yet peace" thing came later.
Was he the one who made that alteration? The embracing of being a mortal being that has feelings and acknowledges them but doesn't let them rule their life seems like a healthy and sane way to handle attachment vs detachment.
 
Was he the one who made that alteration? The embracing of being a mortal being that has feelings and acknowledges them but doesn't let them rule their life seems like a healthy and sane way to handle attachment vs detachment.
No, that's still the code of Oodan-Ur, so to speak, a thing born of him, and he defended it well.

I'm just sort of opposed to things that stink of "Oh those damn Jedi, making horrendous, stupid, obvious mistakes (So that I can make them look stupid)".
 
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[O] An Old Teacher: Longing for the past leads Bastila to have a session with the Holocron of Nomi Sunrider, once the Jedi Grandmaster, and a teacher.(1/3 Unique Lessons of Nomi Sunrider learned)

Alright, I can't find anything on Karn, so I'll just go ahead and go with Nomi. Thanks for the bonus!
 
Omake: Culture Clash
Culture Clash

Heavy footfalls sounded out with every step the former bounty hunter took within the halls of the Jedi Temple on Dantooine. Arms tucked inside her robes, the woman allowed herself this moment to take in the energies of the Force around her, basking in its presence.

Bao-Dur, meditating in his chambers as he no doubt deliberated on one thing or another.

Brianna performing her daily exercises in the sanctity of the Training Hals.

Atton discussing something or another with the Miraluka Visas - the two had been getting along more. Considering the often tense atmosphere between the last of the Jedi, it was thankful that some were taking to furthering their relationships. Not to say everyone hated each-other, but Meetra Surik had been the catalyst for them all, a glue that bound them all as one. Without her? Well, there was a reason Mira could rarely be seen talking to anyone outside of mandated meetings.

Oh, she could also sense the presence following her around every corridor. With a deep sigh, she mentally uplifted her stalker, a deep and guttural yell of fright ringing out and echoing down the hallways. With a turn, and a hand on her hip, Mira lifted a brow at a somewhat familiar face.

"So," she began, approaching the person, whom was currently rubbing his horns from where they'd landed on the ground. He looked up at her, eyes wide like prey in its final moments. Mira felt herself smirking despite herself, "you've been following me for the last hour. Gonna talk, or what?" She knew she looked cocky, hand on her hip and staring down the bulky kid. He squawked, mumbling incoherently as he rose unsteadily to his feet. Yellow skin with black markings along it, Mira could immediately make out the resemblance between this kid and their resident Grandmaster.

"Ah, hello! I am Ralec - Ralec Varn," He began, voice a deep rumble as the awkward lad towered over the relatively smaller woman. "I was... watching your movements," he explained. "It reminded me of my fellow people. I wanted to ask you, how you came to adopt such a thing - it is not often I see anyone baring your stance."

Mira tapped her foot, considering the question. "Kid," she began in an almost lazy tone, "I have no clue what you're talking about. Besides, I don't have much idea of your culture, Bao-Dur would probably be better suited to that kinda talk if you're looking for it."

The teen shook his head at the suggestion. "My apologies, I do not think I would find myself relating to the Grandmaster." At Mira's raise of the brow he elaborated. "I myself was born to a fringe colony along the Outer-Rim. While the details are lost to me now, I still recall some of it. I however, was taken during the earlier years of the Mandalorian Wars, as one of many, we were adopted young to be raised as Mandalorians. Things are much more... hostile, where I come from." Mira took stock of the towering teen, looking him up and down and finding only what he appeared to already be. "You don't seem the hostile type," she admitted, before continuing her walk, gesturing for the Zabrak to follow. He did so hesitantly.

"Yes, I am considered to be very 'tame' compared to my brothers and sisters. I do not have the heart for violence as many of them seem to." He pondered his next words as they found themselves in the courtyard. "I believe that is what spurred me on to come here. I could not embrace the militant doctrine as many of my fellow people were able to do. It often led me to become ill when I attempted to do so, a dark presence often associated with my attempts at great violence and want for blood-lust. However, there was little I could learn by myself, so when I spoke to my clan leader, I explained that I would be leaving to seek out a life for myself, and as such I offered payment through labor upon a nearby trading ship and made my way to a place that could better my understanding of the Force." His explanation ending when he looked around, catching up to where they'd arrived. A tree stood tall in the center of the courtyard, other Initiates casually making conversation with one another as they went around the enormous structure.

"Nice story kid," Mira stated, finding a stone bench nearby that she sat upon with a lazy cross of the legs. "Now c'mere and sit. You talk a lot." The adolescent hesitated, before he too sat on the stone bench, legs crossing underneath him like the woman. His movements were stiff and seemingly unsure, a reminder to her of how she herself often was growing up - it gave her a measure of fondness for the kid.

"Now," she began. "Stop thinking for a moment. Stop talking, stop doing anything at all. Feel out with the Force..." the boy tried, closing his eyes and attempting to grasp the Force. "Wrong," she chastised, as a link was made between the two. "Here, follow my lead." And so he was gently led by the 'hand', his presence being cast outward as a warmth began to encompass him. His presence was being directed outward, to the tree before them. "Feel this? Follow its roots." With that simple direction, she allowed him the freedom to explore the Force at his leisure. Eventually he let out a gasp.

"It is... it's immense. Connected to everything," Mira let herself smile at the progress. "I can feel the planet, its gentleness, the animals roaming in the plains." His eyes reopened, and he looked at Mira with what could easily be considered awe. "T-thank you Master Jedi! I have always wondered what it was that felt missing throughout my lessons growing up... it is good to know now what it was." A joyous smile lit the gentle giants face, as he offered an awkward bow.

"Glad I could help," she said truthfully, rising to her feet. "Well, I'll see you around kid. Try and practice that some more on your own time." With a wave she left him to his own devices, inwardly pleased at the success she'd helped him achieve.

A/N

Okay, so for anyone that saw this before the edit, you'd know I initially made the kiddo a Dathomirian... a sub-species of Zabrak that doesn't yet exist in this time-period! Oopsie, and thanks to @The Englanderish for pointing it out for me. It led to what I think is a far more compelling character - a quick deep dive tells me that the Zabrak colonies were one of the first and hardest to be hit at the beginning of the Mando Wars. That in mind, I put this kid as having been quite young when it all happens, resulting in him being still quite young now - Mandalorian Wars began in 3976, and KOTOR 2 ends in year 3951, so I'd say his colony probably got sacked around... 3967 - 68 or so? Just an estimate, I hope you guys enjoy!
 
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An Old Teacher+ Jedi Order Patrol Routes 3947 BBY
An Old Teacher

The Holocron's guardian speaks-- Nomi Sunrider, slain at Katarr as so many other Jedi were. She appears in the prime of her life, clad in the plain brown robes of the Jedi. Her lightsaber is clipped to her belt, and she stands with her arms folded behind her back. "Ossus was, and perhaps might be again, a Jedi world. There were places there, strong enough I think to guard our relics from utter destruction-- the thick walls of the Great Library may have endured, perhaps, or certain underground storehouses where we kept some of the more dangerous or valuable artifacts. In any case, seek out Ossus, young one, and there you will know us, who fought long before you."

The recording stops, and Bastila stands before you, expectantly. "It's hardly a whole map, but it is the most hope we've had of reclaiming the planet in years."

(+5 Ossus, +15 Knowledge)

"Thank you, Bastila. Now then, I believe we do have a duty, do we not?"

There's a twitch in your prosthetic-- you picked it up after the destruction of the Sith holocrons. Now, despite that giant coincidence you don't think that that is the handiwork of the Sith; it's too little for them, more likely just a bit of radiation managing to leak in through the shielding. Not everything bad that happens to Jedi can be lain at their feet-- that is giving them too much power, far, far too much power.

On the off chance you're wrong, though? You've spent the past six weeks meditating in your room, speaking to no-one, and having no visitors, except for your Padawan, who refuses to leave you behind. When he isn't in your room, meditating with you, he is outside your door, taking messages for you.

More importantly, he has been recording what he hears of your mumbling as you sleep. You remember altogether little of it, but you know they are not simple dreams-- they are visions of the past, of the sands of Korriban, before, perhaps, even the Exiles came. You feel no great concern about them, but again, if you are wrong, if this is some sort of ill considered plot by long-dead Sith to resurrect themselves by possessing you?

Well, your Padawan's around-- and he's pretty good with his lightsaber.

In any case, the panic that had been brewing died when you stepped out, whole and hearty and hale, for the Council Meeting-- the first one you have attended in the flesh since you noticed the prosthetic twitch.

As much as you might like to simply work on solving this mystery, you do have a job to do.

Available Jedi:

Grandmaster Bao Dur
Battlemaster Atton Rand
Councilor Mira
Councilor Visas Marr
Councilor Brianna
Councilor Bastila Shan
Councilor Juhani
3 Padawans


Assign Jedi to these Patrol Routes:

[] The Core: To be honest, this is likely the safest part of the Galaxy. You'd be surprised if anything more threatening than a few gangsters show up here anytime soon, and not very threatening ones either. Still, whatever does happen here, the entire galaxy knows about it, so if you just want to fly the flag, so to speak, this would be a good place for it.
([] Assign Jedi to patrol, needs 4 Vigilance)

[] The Mid-Rim: Wealthier than the Outer Rim, but without the commiserate military force, a surprising amount of Jedi patrols have always been focused here, being pirate bait and all. This is likely where combat, if it takes place, will take place. Sending some real muscle out here would be a wise plan.
([] Assign Jedi to patrol, needs 6 Vigilance)

[] The Outer Rim: A sparsely populated collection of agri worlds, you don't see too much trouble coming here, if it weren't for the Mandalorians. On the other hand, this is likely to be where the majority of your apprentices come from for the time being, so perhaps those more in tune with the Force would be a wise plan.
([] Assign Jedi to patrol, needs 2 Vigilance)
 
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Just curious, but should this be Battlemaster now? Also is he still on the roster, even though Mical is temporarily off? If he's still available awesome, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a mistake.
Yeah, while the Battlemaster teaches lightsaber combat, he is still an active agent of the Order as well. Look at the Jedi Knight from SWTOR, he's got sort of the same thing going on.
 
I am thinking of going with the same deployment as last year with one change, assigning Bao Dur and his Padawan to the outer rim.
 
It says we have three Padawan's available ...I assume the third is Mical's whom we should probably have stay back with him. And gdi can someone help me remember the name of Bao-Dur's Padawan? I remember Kador and that's about it, because he had his own sidestory segment.

Edit: or, another idea. Have a Padawan only mission (maybe send in one Master like Bao-Dur for precautions) to the Outer Rim. It'll be good to test them in relatively safe environments while also letting them learn to not rely solely on their Master's for protection.
 
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It says we have three Padawan's available ...I assume the third is Mical's whom we should probably have stay back with him. And gdi can someone help me remember the name of Bao-Dur's Padawan? I remember Kador and that's about it, because he had his own sidestory segment.
Zez Kyridor, Rodian, formerly an engineer for the Republic. Not the strongest with the Force, but absolutely trusting of it.
 
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Alright, but don't say I didn't warn you when you're fighting Time Force and people start getting retgonned.

Primarily old EU, but if Disney Canon does something I like or drops a location I can use I'll jack it without regrets. (So yeah, Ilum is Adegan crystals)
The lesson here is you need to run a Power Rangers Quest at some point.

And that's a fair enough way to handle it. Not like there's a lot of current NuCanon to use anyway.
 
[X] Plan Field Test
-[X] The Core: Padawan Breda, Padawan Kador, Padawan Zez Kyridor, Bao-Dur (Combat 6, Wisdom 3, Skill 4, Diplomacy 5 Vigilance 2)
Total = (Combat 9, Wisdom 6, Skill 7, Diplomacy 8, Vigilance 5)
-[X] The Mid-Rim: Brianna (Combat 6, Wisdom 4, Skill 1, Diplomacy 4, Vigilance 1) Juhani (Combat 6, Wisdom 3, Skill 1, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 2) Bastilla (Combat 4, Wisdom 4, Skill 3, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 3)
Total = (Combat 16, Wisdom 11, Skill 5, Diplomacy 10, Vigilance 6)
-[X] The Outer Rim: Atton (Combat 4, Wisdom 3, Skill 3, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 4), Visas (Combat 5, Wisdom 3, Skill 3, Diplomacy 1, Vigilance 4), Mira (Combat 3, Wisdom 4, Skill 4, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 4)
Total = (Combat 12, Wisdom 10, Skill 10, Diplomacy 7, Vigilance 12)

Ended up rearranging all of this, and each team feels well balanced and relatively suited for their purpose. My only gripe might be potentially switching Bastilla and Mira just so we can get a bit more skill in the Outer-Rim, but it's only a single point difference and I really wanna push Juhani to interract with more than just Bastilla. Edit: I ended up switching them.

Edit: Put back in their stats, probably gonna rearrange the groups a bit too so I haven't added totals yet. Waiting for some feedback first
 
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[X] Plan Field Test
-[X] The Core: Mira, Bastilla, Brianna.
-[X] The Mid-Rim: Atton, Visas, Juhani.
-[X] The Outer Rim: Padawan Breda, Padawan Kador, Padawan Zez Kyridor, Bao-Dur

Accounted for Vigilance needed and it all looks good. Sent Brianna to the Core because there's moderate danger there and her combat score should handle any surprises - narratively because she has a budding friendship with Bastilla that would suggest she works well with her.

Mid-Rim is dangerous, but Atton and Visas both have respectable Combat scores and Juhani is a powerhouse. Narratively because Juhani needs to stretch her legs a bit and be around more people than just Bastilla. Atton is good at breaking social barriers and Visas is a nice medium.

Last is the Padawan + Bao-Dur group. I wanted to throw them all together to see how our new and growing Order can work together in a relatively safe environment that still harbors some element of danger. Bao-Dur is an insurance policy just in case.

Someone tell me if my formatting is wrong, I haven't done a vote for the patrols yet.
I recommend inserting stats and totals, like this old one:
[X] Plan Attending Duties
-[X] The Core (Needs 4 Vigilance):
Councilor Atton Rand (Combat 4, Wisdom 3, Skill 3, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 4), Padawan Kador. Total: Combat 5, Wisdom 4, Skill 4, Diplomacy 4, Vigilance 5.
-[X] The Mid-Rim (Needs 6 Vigilance, Combat Focused): Councilor Juhani (Combat 6, Wisdom 3, Skill 1, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 2), Councilor Visas Marr (Combat 5, Wisdom 3, Skill 3, Diplomacy 1, Vigilance 4), Councilor Brianna (Combat 6, Wisdom 4, Skill 1, Diplomacy 4, Vigilance 1). Total: Combat 17, Wisdom 10, Skill 5, Diplomacy 8, Vigilance 7.
-[X] The Outer Rim (Needs 2 Vigilance, Wisdom Focused): Councilor Bastila Shan (Combat 4, Wisdom 4, Skill 3, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 3), Councilor Mira (Combat 3, Wisdom 4, Skill 4, Diplomacy 3, Vigilance 4), Padawan Breda. Total: Combat 8, Wisdom 9, Skill 8, Diplomacy 7, Vigilance 8.
-[X] Send Grandmaster Bao Dur (Combat 6, Wisdom 3, Skill 4, Diplomacy 5 Vigilance 2) to meet with the Supreme Chancellor.

As for how to arrange them, the Mid-Rim tends to emphasize combat and the Outer Rim tends to emphasize Wisdom. I have an unconfirmed suspicion that the Core tends to benefit from Diplomacy. This turn we'll probably be doing investigation in the Order Rim, so plenty of Skill there will probably be helpful. It's good to avoid letting Combat get too low in any one area to minimize the chances of dead Jedi.
 
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I recommend inserting stats and totals, like this old one:


As for how to arrange them, the Mid-Rim tends to emphasize combat and the Outer Rim tends to emphasize Wisdom. I have an unconfirmed suspicion that the Core tends to benefit from Diplomacy. This turn we'll probably be doing investigation in the Order Rim, so plenty of Skill there will probably be helpful. It's good to avoid letting Combat get too low in any one area.
Gotcha. I'd ignored the stats because it seemed more for early on introductory period, but I'll put them back in. With that in mind regarding Wisdom and Skill currently being needed for the Outer Rim, it might be best to just throw most of our Sentinel's there, or at least two/three. I'm think Bastilla, Atton and Visas should cover that fairly well. I can switch Bao-Dur and the Padawan's out into the Core for a relatively less safe mission (but still decently safe) and for the bonus to Diplomacy from Bao-Dur, and put Juhani, Mira and Brianna to the Mid-Rim for their combat focus, and also because narratively the three have never really interacted and I'm pushing to make everyone work together.

That work or any other suggestions on that front?
 
Gotcha. I'd ignored the stats because it seemed more for early on introductory period, but I'll put them back in. With that in mind regarding Wisdom and Skill currently being needed for the Outer Rim, it might be best to just throw most of our Sentinel's there, or at least two/three. I'm think Bastilla, Atton and Visas should cover that fairly well. I can switch Bao-Dur and the Padawan's out into the Core for a relatively less safe mission (but still decently safe) and for the bonus to Diplomacy from Bao-Dur, and put Juhani, Mira and Brianna to the Mid-Rim for their combat focus, and also because narratively the three have never really interacted and I'm pushing to make everyone work together.

That work or any other suggestions on that front?
I like including the stats because it makes the QM's job easier when they need to roll, and it makes it so that people can evaluate plans at a glance. Hopefully it'll become a standard thing for all the plans in the quest.

Mira's high Skill might be handy in the Outer Rim this round. She also has good Wisdom. Perhaps her and Bastila?
 
I like including the stats because it makes the QM's job easier when they need to roll, and it makes it so that people can evaluate plans at a glance. Hopefully it'll become a standard thing for all the plans in the quest.

Mira's high Skill might be handy in the Outer Rim this round. She also has good Wisdom. Perhaps her and Bastila?
I was thinking that might be overkill and leave the Mid-Rim a bit underdefended... but hell, Juhani and Brianna should be able go handle anything that comes their way.

Ahh wait. I remember why I kept Mira in the Mid-Rim. Without her they don't make the Vigilance requirement
 
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I was thinking that might be overkill and leave the Mid-Core a bit underdefended... but hell, Juhani and Brianna should be able go handle anything that comes their way.

Ahh wait. I remember why I kept Mira in the Mid-Core. Without her they don't make the Vigilance requirement
I'd suggest swapping Mira and Visas, since Mira has higher Wisdom and Skill for Rim-ward operations. Maybe swap Atton and Breda? Outer Rim looks a little heavy and Core looks a little light.
 
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