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The World Turned Upside Down - A 20th Century Nation Game (HIATUS?)

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    • Please note the following, participants: this beginning marks a new turn and thus a new comprehensive set of rules. Space programs will be the responsibility of participant internal events, as will be internal conflicts with internal forces. Realism will be suggested at first, if necessary, and if it comes to it, enforced. Ergo, war plans against internal dissidents are not necessary.

    We return to our five day schedule, with the turn of the year of 1992 beginning "officially" today at 9 pm EST, and ending in five days at 9 pm EST, with all plans due in three days at 9 pm EST. Any exceptions must be inquired about and if I have missed any questions, please repeat them.

    Also, special thanks to @Kerensky and @DonFitz for narrative assistance focusing on multiple fronts can be quite stressful and tiring without allies in moderating, and they were certainly there. I look forward to plunging into the deep dark with you all, as I continue to moderate The World Turned Upside Down, a nation game.
     
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    • ChaoticGenius said:
    'SPACE PROGRAMS: GROWING PAINS, OR GONE FOR GOOD?'
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    Yes? What does this actually mean?

    ChaoticGenius said:
    Space programs will be the responsibility of participant internal events, as will be internal conflicts with internal forces. Realism will be suggested at first, if necessary, and if it comes to it, enforced. Ergo, war plans against internal dissidents are not necessary.
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    :thonk:

    So @Another Amoeba should resolve the CAZ as an internal event, where everything goes smoothly and we succeed in our Hearts and Minds campaign and put the Unified guerilla leader on the throne and there are rainbows and sunshine forever?
     
    You've done an excellent job so far, my man. Glad to see this monstrosity hasn't collapsed under its own weight yet; it's a good premise, a solid setting, and a period I haven't roleplayed in before.
     
    Demonic Spoon said:
    Yes? What does this actually mean?


    :thonk:

    So @Another Amoeba should resolve the CAZ as an internal event, where everything goes smoothly and we succeed in our Hearts and Minds campaign and put the Unified guerilla leader on the throne and there are rainbows and sunshine forever?
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    Hence my statement to the effect of: "Realism will be suggested at first, if necessary, and if it comes to it, enforced. Ergo, war plans against internal dissidents are not necessary."

    An internal event can just as accurately describe actions and operations taken against internal dissidents. Whether it succeeds will be up to me as a moderator with the duty of posting events related to the situation.
     
    EmperorCasey said:
    I would be alright with that.
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    How about a Greek royal having married a member of the Apponyi family. A queen consort of Albania was from the Apponyi family. The current King of Hungary married into that family, so this way there could be some ties there, or if not, you can say there was a marriage between the king's sister and a Greek royal, your choice.
     
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    ChaoticGenius said:
    Hence my statement to the effect of: "Realism will be suggested at first, if necessary, and if it comes to it, enforced. Ergo, war plans against internal dissidents are not necessary."

    An internal event can just as accurately describe actions and operations taken against internal dissidents. Whether it succeeds will be up to me as a moderator with the duty of posting events related to the situation.
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    So how is this actually different from warplans then lol.
     
    Demonic Spoon said:
    So how is this actually different from warplans then lol.
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    The main difference is that instead of my personal messages being clogged with war plans that could have easily been described in an internal event and were thus wholly unnecessary, the actions are explained clearly for both the moderator, who writes results, and other nation participants, who may react accordingly.

    Again, this is only against internal dissidents: the C.A.Z. may use an internal event to describe how Congolese troops are being deployed to assist with the peacekeeping force, but the Anglo-Portuguese are strangers in a strange land, so to speak, and thus war plans are quite necessary.
     
    So let's see... I wonder where would be a solid choice for Britain's space program to be based? Actually trying to launch rockets from the UK itself seems impractical for reasons of orbital mechanics and simple space requirements, so I've probably just turned over an island somewhere to the role...
     
    Elections for the World Congress and the endless events are incoming tomorrow. For now, I rest. God Bless and peace be upon you, and until next time.
     
    Maugan Ra said:
    So let's see... I wonder where would be a solid choice for Britain's space program to be based? Actually trying to launch rockets from the UK itself seems impractical for reasons of orbital mechanics and simple space requirements, so I've probably just turned over an island somewhere to the role...
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    Hawaii was one of the top two potential locations for NASA due to its placing on the equator and strategic positioning to allow for recovery of stuff from the sea, sadly we have NASA in Florida because of business interests IRL/ OTL
     
    Don't think running to space is going to save any of you before the nukes start flying, poubelle.
     
    Gamelin said:
    Don't think running to space is going to save any of you before the nukes start flying, poubelle.
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    Nukes are strategic and in the 'measly' 1 megaton range, I don't think there would be enough damage for a real 'nuclear apocalypse' unless all nuclear ten nations managed to get all their nukes off.
     
    Maugan Ra said:
    So let's see... I wonder where would be a solid choice for Britain's space program to be based? Actually trying to launch rockets from the UK itself seems impractical for reasons of orbital mechanics and simple space requirements, so I've probably just turned over an island somewhere to the role...
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    Probably either the dominion of Nigeria or the Dominion of West India.

    EDIT: Actually that British territory in Western Africa surrounded by French Africa seems to be nicely on the equator, so may be ideal, but I have no idea on the domestic situation.
     
    @Cybandeath like just so we're clear OOC the event text clearly states that I have direct financial evidence that the North German Government used the Corp in question to anonymously smuggle arms into the Confederate territory

    I don't know if you're confused or just denying it IC, but just want to clear that up.
     
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    Crilltic said:
    @Cybandeath like just so we're clear OOC the event text clearly states that I have direct direct evidence that the North German Government used the Corp in question to anonymously smuggle arms into the Confederate territory

    I don't know if you're confused or just denying it IC, but just want to clear that up.
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    yes, but it does not state what kind of evidence which is actually kind of important as such could easily be fabricated depending on the evidence in question. Is this paperwork from the south German governments bureaucracy? is it just something various people have said, is it some seemingly impossible video of an act? direct evidence does not mean quality evidence, and depending on the type of evidence in question could be easily fabrication.

    Furthermore, the only thing I can directly see in the post that would be evidence is ties of money involved that's not really much in the way with evidence when a lot of businesses have financial ties to the North German government.
     
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    Cybandeath said:
    yes, but it does not state what kind of evidence which is actually kind of important as such could easily be fabricated depending on the evidence in question. Is this paperwork from the south German governments bureaucracy? is it just something various people have said, is it some seemingly impossible video of an act? direct evidence does not mean quality evidence, and depending on the type of evidence in question could be easily fabrication.
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    I'm guessing it's financial paper trails and witness testimony from various members of the pan-germanist front. In enough quantities that I feel I can get other countries to creditably believe me when I accuse the North German government of it. (Obviously @ChaoticGenius can answer this better than me).

    But like what's the alternative here, I launched a false flag terror attack on my own soil to provoke a war I don't want? I'm not even asking for any North German government officials just private citizens accused of arms trafficking for a terrorist organization.
     
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