counter argument:Again remember that threat ratings are not based on how dangerous the power is, but how dangerous the person using the power is. Vista is classified as a Shaker 9 because she's demonstrated abilities which get her classified as that. "Insect control" is a rather weak power on it's own. Yet Skitter got a high Master threat rating entirely because of how dangerous she was with it and the many creative uses Taylor came up with.
Let's assume two people have telekinesis, and both have a five pound limit. Neither one is 'manton limited'. One gets rated as a shaker 1, maybe shaker 2. All they use their power to do is lift things up and throw them. The other person keeps finding new uses for their power. Things ranging from picking locks, to tripping opponents, and at one point rips an opponent's eyes out. They get a much higher threat rating despite having an identical power to the first person. Why? Because it's the person getting rated rather then the power.
IIRC, it was a French King (one of the Louis) who first started the fashion of high heels (possibly because he was short)Dunno if it's been mentioned yet, but high heels evolved from riding boots. Basically French nobles took the fashion for wearing riding boots even if you weren't going riding, and started slimming the heels to impracticality as a statement: "I don't have to walk anywhere, so it's not a problem if I wear heels that would get stuck between the cobblestones."
again here should be a little different, i talking of the Sandbagging Here (so we can survive the Monds)Missy doesn't so much sandbag as get kept from anything even hinting at being able to use her full capabilities for large parts of Canon by the PR department. Neither get 'sandbag' ratings, but their ratings do keep getting raised in canon as they prove more dangerous then previously thought. Considering PRT threat ratings normally go to 10, the fact Vista was rated as a shaker 9 at the start of canon says a lot about how capable she was considered.
Pretty sure Skitter's threat rating at the time of Golden Morning would have been adjusted upwards as a direct result of what happened too. Not willing to slog through Ward to find out though, and I doubt it gets mentioned since Taylor was already written off by Wildbow with the ending of Worm.
Has Missy been intentionally sandbagging though? Or has she been handicapped by the PR department having a specific image and both PR and Youth Guard doing their best to keep her 'safe'?
The PRT clearly has no issues with Protectorate capes being known to be powerful. The issue has been that they are all faceless and thus it could be anyone underneath the mask/helmet. Being able to point at Taylor and say "Here is one of the Heroes! See, she doesn't wear a mask! She's relatable too! You can trust her, can't you? See how powerful she is? How she keeps you safe? The rest of the Protectorate are also just as relatable and trustworthy."
Of course, if Taylor ends up leaving the PRT for some reason, this Hearts & Minds campaign is likely to blow up in Glenn's face.
Fanon. Labyrinth was a Shaker 12, and this was treated as impressive but not abnormal.
Considering he had been told it shocked people who touched it, he couldn't take it to Taylor. Especially while, he had a theory, he needed to run it by Inari to see how likely he was to be right. Most likely, with the shock defense, he would have had to bring Taylor there, and that would have taken too long, as the PRT would have been involved prior. Plus he was trying to keep Taylor's 'trigger' aka her apotheosis (divine ascension) under wraps. So, he wasn't 'knuckling under' but doing his best under the situation.
Assuming no further interruptions a chapter should be out later today (the 22nd).
Fair enough. I had forgotten the zappage and hadn't considered how much he was keeping a secret from his fellow dockworkers.Considering he had been told it shocked people who touched it, he couldn't take it to Taylor. Especially while, he had a theory, he needed to run it by Inari to see how likely he was to be right. Most likely, with the shock defense, he would have had to bring Taylor there, and that would have taken too long, as the PRT would have been involved prior. Plus he was trying to keep Taylor's 'trigger' aka her apotheosis (divine ascension) under wraps. So, he wasn't 'knuckling under' but doing his best under the situation.
...but if an author doesn't want Taylor joining the Wards they usually need to find a way to make them look extra unpleasant.
How do they keep her around if she's not even a member?Er, all they have to do is follow canon and keep Shadow Stalker around.
They are talking about fics in general, not just this one.How do they keep her around if she's not even a member?
Remember, this is set before she was arrested and joined the Wards so she wouldn't go to jail.
Why do think that?a Hero with a threat rating really high (and not part of the Triumvirate) is not approchavle or likeable.
Taylor wasn't allowed to use her powers effectively because there was a significant faction in the PRT who objected to her not being thrown in jail and/or executed for what she did.That's not an example of how they do things normally. As for giving Vista weaponsso they would Sandbag their abilities: negating Vista weapons, Making Taylor unable to use her best streghts, negating equipment who is not "fitting" and giving them lesser threats ratings than they trully have.
Sure, she also could be a very powerful blaster, berform sub-orbital jumps, transporting people to anywhere in the world as fast as Strider can, nd a bunch of other stuff she didn't think of. That doesn't mean the PRT is preventing her from doing that, it means Vista didn't think of those ideas (or alternately she did and they didn't work for some reason).
i.e can cause strokes, and heart attacks at range, for that matter it doesn't actually take that much range to be able to launch a bullet at decent firearm speeds. Someone who is actually viscious and imaginative with that power would get a high shaker and blaster rating.Let's assume two people have telekinesis, and both have a five pound limit. Neither one is 'manton limited'.
Is that actually canon?Missy doesn't so much sandbag as get kept from anything even hinting at being able to use her full capabilities for large parts of Canon by the PR department.
In other words, this PRT is actually competent.However even if that's canon, keep in mind we already know the PRT in this story is not at all like the canon PRT.
I don't think anyone is bickering over PRT ratings, but if they were that would be a lot less annoying and repetitive than certain people trying to shut down discussions because they don't like them.Can we please stop bickering over power ratings? I suspect we all have a different interpretation of how they function and I'm not even 100% sure they are actually canon, outside of a single mention (although I could be remembering that wrong). Can we please move onto something else because this is getting repetitive.
OK, how about what divine goodies/artifacts Taylor might be able toCan we please move onto something else because this is getting repetitive.
Well, if Mjolnir hasn't been destroyed, I would imagine Taylor gets it by default.OK, how about what divine goodies/artifacts Taylor might be able tolootreclaim once she gets access to the divine realms?
I mean she is the de-facto owner of the place now that everybody else is dead and other gods haven't shown up yet.
Well, Inari may have her retrieve one of the missing legendary katanas.OK, how about what divine goodies/artifacts Taylor might be able tolootreclaim once she gets access to the divine realms?
I mean she is the de-facto owner of the place now that everybody else is dead and other gods haven't shown up yet.
Less 'inherited' and more 'succeeded'.Well, if Mjolnir hasn't been destroyed, I would imagine Taylor gets it by default.
After all, she did inherit the domain of storms from Thor.
Nah, Taylor already has her divine weapon. Though Amaterasu might have left a sting of beads for her to wear.Well, Inari may have her retrieve one of the missing legendary katanas.
Though that makes me wonder if there are other spirits out there. I mean we have evidence of Cyclops (Greek) and Kitsune (Japan) so maybe Taylor inadvertently wakes up Jörmungandr at some point? He technically isn't a god, 'just' an impossibly giant sea serpent.
IIIII kinda hope not. He was one of the big instigators of Ragnaroc, the one who would kill Thor with his venom after he himself was killed by the God.Though that makes me wonder if there are other spirits out there. I mean we have evidence of Cyclops (Greek) and Kitsune (Japan) so maybe Taylor inadvertently wakes up Jörmungandr at some point? He technically isn't a god, 'just' an impossibly giant sea serpent.
Well it's not like he or any of Loki's children had any reason to like the Norse Gods.IIIII kinda hope not. He was one of the big instigators of Ragnaroc, the one who would kill Thor with his venom after he himself was killed by the God.