OctarineShrike
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[X] Plan The Stranger
The Streetwalker's Guide to the Hierarchy
- Thread starter Birdsie
- Start date
- Location
- washington
If you add think about masks I could make to combat these zombies or assist the locals as an action I'll vote for the plan. It's not actually committing to an action so much as our mc thinking of solutions to local problems. It can even be seen as mercantile interest on our part.
Rihaku
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Indeed, I'd very much prefer a mask that doesn't produce atrocities and also allows us to respec our existing masks at will, to a mask that does produce atrocities but gives us some marginal improvement in mask creation speed. Dorian was already an expert at the latter, he didn't need the help and forcing him to possess a warcrimes mask was not remotely worth the controversy for such finite benefit.
So you now agree that the build wouldn't have died to zombies, great!
And it would have been potential well-spent, as with unconditional healing plus a viable strong combat mask and no atrocity-mask to babysit we would have been well-equipped to actually do things right now, as opposed to Dorian's current middling straits.
- Location
- some computer lab
[X] Give Him One
[X] Affect Foolishness
This gets us knowledge on unknown dangers, more facetime for our masks, and a potential teammate to help us fight zombies
[X] Affect Foolishness
This gets us knowledge on unknown dangers, more facetime for our masks, and a potential teammate to help us fight zombies
I don't? I agree that build with Heart is stronger in combat than build that took 80% of combat mask. You still die to zombies.
I genuinely don't understand why are we talking about Heart. We choose the "get by until we get a ton of points" and we are getting by just fine. The point of Heart is various magic and anti magic that would do approximately nothing in zombie apocalypse. Other masks aside, and I wasn't fan either, not buying Heart looks like extremely smart decision right about now.
Rihaku
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So your rather strange belief is that Heart would have yielded a stronger build that would still have died to the trivial zombies we encountered at the front? A cope that requires some serious mental contortions, but even assuming Heart-Reader wouldn't have allowed us to easily nullify the zombie's animation or copy any configuration of stats, an unconditional Healing Mask can easily outpace them simply by virtue of being uninjured.
It's not clear to me that a Potential 24 Mask with 1/4th of its focus spread into stats and gravely injured would even have an advantage over a normal uninjured human, so your claim requires some substantial missing evidence.
We're talking about it because you wanted a build that could do things immediately, voted for a build that can't (and has several self-inflicted complications), and are now surprised that the voters aren't doing things immediately. If you want voters to do things proactively, you have to take immediate power or accept that it won't happen.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan The Stranger
Why ever for. We aren't going to stay here. Why form a faction.
I do agree it would be quite silly to immediately show our hand right away for high risk and little reward at the moment. The quest master was even nice enough to start us off in a hospital that should have access to plenty of blood bags to allow us a good shot at getting back to full strength with no need for combat. I think our best bet is to bide our time for a brief moment and find a couple of people we can trust with a mask and see where things go from there.
OctarineShrike
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People to give masks to. We do need to get an established workshop lest our mask explode and that's enough to make me consider a showier plan. Also possible friends to take with us to the next world if there isn't some street attunement requirement I've forgotten about.
Seems like a poor world to recruit from, since just normal humans.
And we can't give mask willi nillie to even a faction we create. Look at any zombie movie, people are the real monsters. You probably lead to mask based aristocrstic class.
- Location
- 1
That's... not a strange belief? Heartreader is for copying magic powers. It doesn't meaningfully help us against trivial zombies unless said zombies have relevant magic in a way we can't currently copy.
It's better against opponents which are supernaturally powerful, which most of the ones that can threaten us will be. But, if we think a Dorian with only his base Mask for combat, and no Heartreader, would die to zombies, it also follows a Dorian with his Base Mask and Heartreader(which doesn't increase reflection/antimagic power, just breadth) would do the same.
(Maybe the Healer Mask would let him escape, but that's a separate question.)
That said, if that is the case, he'd just get a different start situation, since we couldn't fail/be in an unavoidable-loss-state on Post-Character-Creation Vote One.
Dorian's weirdness to other people is apparent.
This shows that Dorian is both pretty intelligent and well educated in a way that shows it without throwing it into our faces.
Love the background building and explanation for why he's skilled in the areas he specializes in
Dorian's observations shows off why he's a social focused character.
[X] Plan The Stranger
-[X] Don't Share
-[X] Observer
--[X] Keep a quiet profile and try not to draw undue attention to yourself. Especially from Daria. Keep the capabilties of your masks a secret for now.
--[X] Watch the interactions among survivors, learning what you can about this world as you set to the work given to you. Pick up what you can about the faceless outside specifically from the survivors. How did things come to pass?
--[X] When you get the chance see if you can employ Reflection on Daria. Attempt this only if you are certain that you'd get away undetected. If it's risky attempt Reflection on the other survivors instead to piece together the big picture from their memories.
--[X] Keep an eye out for supplies of blood with your blood sense. Determine the number and postings of the survivors while you're at it. Find out if the blood sense work on the Faceless outside if any are near range of the mask.
Seems to be the most practical and in character choice.
Currently two main avenues of advancement are facetime and crafting, which are the both things we gain with giving the mask.
I don't think so. The zombie thing was clearly here to punish lack of combat mask - if you took greedy build you'd just die. Like my super greedy full social healing/craft build would've also died on zombies. All in all the outcome is that taking combat mask was a good idea.
But lets speculate. Say we get healing and crafting - I agree that Birdsie wouldn't just go "sike, you're dead!". Instead, greedy build would get gnawed on by zombies and get zombie virus'd, so we would spend time and effort dealing with that. We could theoretically solve it by either crafting a correct solution, or more realistically, Daria subquest provides access to zombie cure(or she can just control zombies).
Speaking of which, creating a mask that healing zombie bite should be within our capability. Should we decide to actually use our ability instead of doing ever frustrating SV thing where we are deathly afraid of taking actions lest something happens, we could just make a Mask that heals or even produces medicine that heals zombies. That should rack up facetime rather quickly. Alternatevly we might consider producing mask that controls zombies given how readily available of a resources they are.
- Location
- Louisiana
[X] Wolfy
I'm in favor of a more active playstyle of suckering people in to give us more face time on masks. Yeah these are random mooks, all the better that they'll jump on actual superpowers. Whatever this doctor lady is doing, undermine it by being a more impressive option.
I'm in favor of a more active playstyle of suckering people in to give us more face time on masks. Yeah these are random mooks, all the better that they'll jump on actual superpowers. Whatever this doctor lady is doing, undermine it by being a more impressive option.
I really doubt the quest master would kill us for taking a build with less combat Potential in the beginning of chapter 2 dude. Scott simply would've gotten more involved with helping us get into the hospital or something. Why punish your readers for not building a specific way. Might as well not even let people create a build themselves at that point.
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Gabbie
That One Writer
- Location
- Italy
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Never plan around that. If I was the QM and I saw an argument based around 'DM mercy during tutorial' I'd kill the MC at chapter 3.
OctarineShrike
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In game solutions to out of game issues went out of vogue in mainstream tabletop gaming discourse some time ago.
If the GM doesn't think they can work with a build or it's incompatible with their story, they should out and out say it. The quest has to be fun for them too.
I never said anything about QM mercy though? All I said Is with wolfy's logic, a good amount of the default characters would've died chapter 2. Including the angel not centered around combat and ex-kratocrat who is stated to barely be above a normal human at the start. Why even give you the option at that point?
[X] Plan The Stranger
lets not play our hand at the first oppurtunity, lets wait until we have more data
lets not play our hand at the first oppurtunity, lets wait until we have more data
The easiest way to "get more data" is to upset status quo and see how Daria reacts faced with strange situations. Doing stuff does both, to say nothing giving us a chance to craft, use magic to heal, be able to just wear Glass all the time and so on.
Also I'm going to be real with you guys, I've actually got no idea what our tinker mask does. I haven't read the blurb. Can someone fill me in about whole Facelessness radiating thing?
Also I'm going to be real with you guys, I've actually got no idea what our tinker mask does. I haven't read the blurb. Can someone fill me in about whole Facelessness radiating thing?