The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)
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how often will you update this quest ?
[x] Are a bit creeped out. You're not sure about this fame thing Hagrid mentioned.
[X] Florish and Blotts(Books)
[x] Are a bit creeped out. You're not sure about this fame thing Hagrid mentioned.
[X] Florish and Blotts(Books)
. . . I should just delete my posts shouldn't I? No one's apparently giving them any thought... Or I may need to start arguing for creeped out. You seem to be voting for it because I'm trying to reason with you that our natural response is to hid from the presumed angry crowd gathering around us because they now know we're there. And the only experience we have with crowds is them being angry with us for something we didn't do.
Yes, we the voters, meta know that they are wanting to praise us. We the player character, only know crowds yell at us for things we didn't do... so large groups of people converging on us means we're about to get yelled at. Because we can't conceive that large groups would be nice to us.
Yes, we the voters, meta know that they are wanting to praise us. We the player character, only know crowds yell at us for things we didn't do... so large groups of people converging on us means we're about to get yelled at. Because we can't conceive that large groups would be nice to us.
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Canon save for any changes you make. The more things you change, the less canon things will be.
Edit: As for how frequent updates will be, a couple times per day most likely. The first few were done so quick just to get the quest started and all. I would like to let everyone have a chance to vote/discuss.
If people want it updated more frequently let me know, though be aware that means that there will be fewer people voting between each update.
Edit: As for how frequent updates will be, a couple times per day most likely. The first few were done so quick just to get the quest started and all. I would like to let everyone have a chance to vote/discuss.
If people want it updated more frequently let me know, though be aware that means that there will be fewer people voting between each update.
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Ursine
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We know the Dursleys yell at us. There is nothing in canon about crowds of people screaming at us at random. In fact, we probably like crowds because Vernon cannot take a swing at us in a crowd.
Also, we have good, if slightly weird, experiences with people in robes, going back as far as we can remember. They tend to bow to us, or shake our hands, but they are never mean to us.
AZATHOTHoth
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So instead of Harry's original Trio is our group going to be Harry, Neville , and Luna?
Thank you Halpo133.
So that means, Dumbledore is out to kill us, we're an emotionally, and physically abused child that has never had good things happen to us (from our point of view) and are currently waiting to see when Hagrid is going to start telling us we're worthless and he's sorry he ever came to gather us from the Dursleys. I can't stress this enough fellow players... We. Are. An. Abused. Child. That. Doesn't. Know. Nice. People.
Ursine, the definition of crowd would be that yes. In this case that's the difference between public, and small gatherings. Small gatherings would be encouraging Vernon to discipline us. And every time we met those strange people in robes, we got punished for it. So while they may not have done anything themselves, we're likely fearing that Vernon, and Petunia are going to punish us for meeting so many robed people... after the robed people finish yelling at us, and Hagrid becomes disgusted with us because we made so many people mad.
Yes, unrealistic... but that would be our IC expectations.
So that means, Dumbledore is out to kill us, we're an emotionally, and physically abused child that has never had good things happen to us (from our point of view) and are currently waiting to see when Hagrid is going to start telling us we're worthless and he's sorry he ever came to gather us from the Dursleys. I can't stress this enough fellow players... We. Are. An. Abused. Child. That. Doesn't. Know. Nice. People.
Ursine, the definition of crowd would be that yes. In this case that's the difference between public, and small gatherings. Small gatherings would be encouraging Vernon to discipline us. And every time we met those strange people in robes, we got punished for it. So while they may not have done anything themselves, we're likely fearing that Vernon, and Petunia are going to punish us for meeting so many robed people... after the robed people finish yelling at us, and Hagrid becomes disgusted with us because we made so many people mad.
Yes, unrealistic... but that would be our IC expectations.
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That's up to you all. You're all going to decide who you interact with.
will408914
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Y'know, funnily enough, most Harry Potter quests aren't Grimderp!Quest. Because nobody wants to read that, and also because it's bad fanon that Dumbledore is evil. It's true that Rowling doesn't know how abused children act, but nevertheless, we know how canon Harry acts and reacts, so we're going to act and react like canon Harry would. At least, until we drive canon off the rails.
[X] Are a bit creeped out. You're not sure about this fame thing Hagrid mentioned.
[X] Florish and Blotts(Books)
Good sir, calm down. how did harry react the first time? He WAS creeped out, however he took it fairly calm and a bit schocked. But thats it. so don't draw info from fanon please.
yes Dumbles was a manipulator, however he was not a EVULZ kind of person, just a misguided one.
Uh... all the points I listed earlier are canon, it may be a bad source, but I checked the wiki. If that's bad fanon, then J.K. Rowling was the first fanfic writer of her own works... specifically, her own works. And if these issues are someone just being misguided... leading people to their deaths, trying to steal their money, throwing people in jail without cause or trial, slandering others to manipulate things to your wants... is just someone being misguided... I'd hate to see what you thought was really evil.
In the books, Hagrid held him there, forcing him to meet the approaching crowd. Once it was apparent that they weren't there to blame him for something he didn't do, he thought it was creepy, because they didn't blame him for something he didn't do. Yes, that's interpretation, but Hagrid did hold him there, forcing him to meet the crowd. Like some proud papa for something their child did, and wanting to bask in their kids accolades. Which is canonical Hagrid.
In the books, Hagrid held him there, forcing him to meet the approaching crowd. Once it was apparent that they weren't there to blame him for something he didn't do, he thought it was creepy, because they didn't blame him for something he didn't do. Yes, that's interpretation, but Hagrid did hold him there, forcing him to meet the crowd. Like some proud papa for something their child did, and wanting to bask in their kids accolades. Which is canonical Hagrid.
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man, stop this , EVIL lord Dumblendore and grimderp Harry Potter may be funny for a bit , but in the end is fanon that either exploites plot holes or has some many logic holes thats not even funny
will408914
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First of all, the series was originally intended for children. A lot of discrepancies between Dumbledore's actions earlier and later have been explained in fanon by "Dumbledore must be evil! It's an evil plot!" Dumbledore did not lead Harry to his death; I'm pretty sure that Harry walked there under his own power. Furthermore, it's the life of one person versus the lives of everyone Voldemort might potentially kill; I'd make that choice in a heartbeat. Trying to steal there money? Where the hell is that in canon? Throwing people in jail is what the Ministry did, not Dumbledore. It was stupid, but again, the series was intended for children, so Rowling didn't think she needed to cover all of her plot holes. As for slander? Once again, where is that in canon?
So, which house you guys think it will be best for munchkining ?
will408914
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"HEADMASTER!"
Edit: I changed my mind. For "munchkining"? We definitely want House Elf.
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Ravenclaw definitely. They understand concept of minimaxing.
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Hufflepuff. They're the house of hard work so our grinding won't raise an eyebrow.
so the trio of Harry, Hermione and luna would be the terror of hogwarts.
luna gives the crazy ideas, hermione provides the grinding plans and harry becomes the (un)fortunate guinea pig of MAD SCIENCE!!
luna gives the crazy ideas, hermione provides the grinding plans and harry becomes the (un)fortunate guinea pig of MAD SCIENCE!!
notmi
Super Koala God Super Koala
[X] Enjoy the attention. It's more than you've usually gotten!
[X] Florish and Blotts(Books)
How about we not be the standard Harry who get's wrecked by the press and shifts in public opinion?
Also, @WCSII, wow, the fanon is strong with you. Evil Dumbles out to kill us and steal all our money? A Harry tortured by the Dursleys? You should probably base your statements a bit less on the hundreds of shitty bash fics, and more on the actual story.
[X] Florish and Blotts(Books)
How about we not be the standard Harry who get's wrecked by the press and shifts in public opinion?
Also, @WCSII, wow, the fanon is strong with you. Evil Dumbles out to kill us and steal all our money? A Harry tortured by the Dursleys? You should probably base your statements a bit less on the hundreds of shitty bash fics, and more on the actual story.
As for grimderp Harry... I'm hoping that if we play this right, it'd become powerful Light Harry, setting things right, and winning against the forces arraigned against him.
So, Harry just mysteriously doesn't get told about his Godfather's will being read, that was made before Sirius was thrown in jail, (author conjectured, admittedly) in which he being the Godfather of his new God Son, would have left it all to Harry (again, author conjectured, so point) ... I will concede that the mail redirect wards may have stopped that one... but, Dumbledore would have still known about it, and didn't tell Harry. Even if he didn't take the money for himself, he was depriving Harry of his own inheritance. Canon, Severus told Harry that Dumbledore mentioned the only way to end the war was for Harry to die. (paraphrased, I'll admit, but the key words are Dumbledore said, End War, [Harry] has to die) Dumbledore outright admits he doesn't know that it's a horcrux in Harry's scar. He suspects. Canon, no one ever tried an exorcism to find out, much less, oh I don't know... medical/magical exams of the dang scar. Slander, often, publicly acknowledge everyone's blame, or image attacks against Harry, without clarifying anything... neither did he publicly apologize for these attacks on Harry's reputation, especially when it was proved it wasn't Harry, Canon, all books he was in. Is canonically the caster of the Potter's fidelus charm, yet told everyone thereafter that the Secret Keeper was Sirius Black... Canon, Fifth book. Also, signed off on Black's shipping to Azkaban, without trial, conviction, or interrogation. Canon. I think it was stated as being mentioned in the Sixth book. Or the 'seventh'.
So no, not fanon derived. The, truly evil Dumbledore, yes fanon derived, Dark Lord Dumbledore, okay, yes, fanon derived. Went out of his way to make things go his way, regardless of whom it hurt... Canon Dumbledore. You may noticed, that aside from my belief with others about Dark Lord Dumbledore, I have stayed away from fanon content. As for the Good of the Many, greater than the good of the few, or the one... If it came down to sacrifice, if it wasn't something that I could do, then I'd give the others a choice. Training them to die since they enter puberty/come into my clutches, is not giving them a choice. (Canon, eighth book, Severus says Dumbledore had always planed on us sacrificing ourselves so that others may win the war) While I no longer have access to my niece's copies of the book, these were things mentioned in the wiki, and pointed out which books they were in. Though it'd be tedious to try sifting through the thing again to find the pages. (was bored and randomly linked through it while I was trying to find out Dumbledore's parents name... fanon is that Dumbledore is using his parents name as extra middle names)
To others, sorry for the TL;DR wall o' text. House... well, depends on whom we can make friends with. Hermione is books, might find Luna in animals, outside chance it's Neville cause he done lost the frog... Malfoy in clothing, Ron in quiditch, don't know who'd we find in wands... probably just means we'd get plot in wands.
So, Harry just mysteriously doesn't get told about his Godfather's will being read, that was made before Sirius was thrown in jail, (author conjectured, admittedly) in which he being the Godfather of his new God Son, would have left it all to Harry (again, author conjectured, so point) ... I will concede that the mail redirect wards may have stopped that one... but, Dumbledore would have still known about it, and didn't tell Harry. Even if he didn't take the money for himself, he was depriving Harry of his own inheritance. Canon, Severus told Harry that Dumbledore mentioned the only way to end the war was for Harry to die. (paraphrased, I'll admit, but the key words are Dumbledore said, End War, [Harry] has to die) Dumbledore outright admits he doesn't know that it's a horcrux in Harry's scar. He suspects. Canon, no one ever tried an exorcism to find out, much less, oh I don't know... medical/magical exams of the dang scar. Slander, often, publicly acknowledge everyone's blame, or image attacks against Harry, without clarifying anything... neither did he publicly apologize for these attacks on Harry's reputation, especially when it was proved it wasn't Harry, Canon, all books he was in. Is canonically the caster of the Potter's fidelus charm, yet told everyone thereafter that the Secret Keeper was Sirius Black... Canon, Fifth book. Also, signed off on Black's shipping to Azkaban, without trial, conviction, or interrogation. Canon. I think it was stated as being mentioned in the Sixth book. Or the 'seventh'.
So no, not fanon derived. The, truly evil Dumbledore, yes fanon derived, Dark Lord Dumbledore, okay, yes, fanon derived. Went out of his way to make things go his way, regardless of whom it hurt... Canon Dumbledore. You may noticed, that aside from my belief with others about Dark Lord Dumbledore, I have stayed away from fanon content. As for the Good of the Many, greater than the good of the few, or the one... If it came down to sacrifice, if it wasn't something that I could do, then I'd give the others a choice. Training them to die since they enter puberty/come into my clutches, is not giving them a choice. (Canon, eighth book, Severus says Dumbledore had always planed on us sacrificing ourselves so that others may win the war) While I no longer have access to my niece's copies of the book, these were things mentioned in the wiki, and pointed out which books they were in. Though it'd be tedious to try sifting through the thing again to find the pages. (was bored and randomly linked through it while I was trying to find out Dumbledore's parents name... fanon is that Dumbledore is using his parents name as extra middle names)
To others, sorry for the TL;DR wall o' text. House... well, depends on whom we can make friends with. Hermione is books, might find Luna in animals, outside chance it's Neville cause he done lost the frog... Malfoy in clothing, Ron in quiditch, don't know who'd we find in wands... probably just means we'd get plot in wands.
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The wands would be Malfoy's mother. I might be getting canon mixed up with fanon again but didn't it say his mom went to I think a wand shop to get his wand?
Yes, yes it did.
Err, okay I'll admit that the Dursley abuse might be fanon, I didn't look those up, but I do believe, at least, the broken arm, whipped with Vernon's belt, and frequently deprived of food was stated as having been mention from books five through eight. As exposition about how hard Harry's life had been, and how similar it was to his current predicament(s) and his reasons for not reacting as strongly to them, as others would have. And the being punished, by being sent to his cupboard without dinner, when he met 'strange people that wore funny robe like clothes' in either the first, or second book... I don't remember which off hand.
However, abusers that do this, rarely only do it once or twice.
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will408914
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This is kind of a dumb fanon idea of the whole light-and-dark thing. As far as I can tell, "light" basically just means Gary Stu self-insert, and "dark" means everyone the author dislikes.
I don't exactly think Sirius was super-rich, and also, given that everybody thought he was a Death Eater, why would Dumbledore open up a vault, potentially full of cursed objects, to an eleven-year-old kid?
There's no canon way of detecting Horcruxes until it starts talking to you and callling itself "Tom Marvolo Riddle Jr." They figured out what the Horcruxes were by extrapolation: Voldemort wanted historical artifacts, he got historical artifacts. Suspecting that something is a Horcrux is the best you can get.
Why should Dumbledore, who protected Harry, apologize for other people attacking his reputation? Also, he didn't know that Black wasn't the Secret-Keeper. He suggested using the Fidelius Charm; he didn't cast it.
There is no eighth book, and Harry did have a choice. If Dumbledore had told Harry at the age of eleven, "Oh, by the way, you can have seven good years here, then you need to die for the survival of Britain" what do you think Harry's response would be? He didn't train anyone to die, he gave Harry the level of maturity to realize that it's better for one person to die than a nation of people.
We should probably stop now before this turns into a flame war.
notmi
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I'm not going to get into an argument about how to interpret the books, but this whole doom and gloom, Dumbles and the Dursleys are stupid-evil, and so on, is incredibly annoying.
First of all, it's only supported by a literal reading of the book, without taking into account the fact that Rowling was just not a fantastic writer and left a lot of plot holes. It's partly a symptom of starting out as a children's book and then trying to add a more dark and adult tone to the later books without regard for the earlier story, and partly because she's not great at planning a coherent story.
Beyond that, all of this is OOC, and shouldn't really be a factor in our decisions at all. Please try to reign in your biases and keep your decisions as IC as possible.
First of all, it's only supported by a literal reading of the book, without taking into account the fact that Rowling was just not a fantastic writer and left a lot of plot holes. It's partly a symptom of starting out as a children's book and then trying to add a more dark and adult tone to the later books without regard for the earlier story, and partly because she's not great at planning a coherent story.
Beyond that, all of this is OOC, and shouldn't really be a factor in our decisions at all. Please try to reign in your biases and keep your decisions as IC as possible.
WSCII, I would like to put a few points for all of us to make things sure.
1) there is NO canon method of detecting horcrux stated to exist. actually I think they might have mentioned that as a curse scar it would never heal, but that it about the horcrux.
2) while he was the cast of the fidelius this doesn't make one the secret keeper. He also didn't know that sirius was not the secret keeper, he also fell for the trick.
3) Harry is a minor, so by law he cannot have FULL acess to the vault, either his family or that of sirius ( 'a criminal' ). so dumbles is not meddling in here, just the law being the LAWWWWWW!.
4) Remember that the black trial was just a few moments after the war ended. even dumbles was tired and all that jazz, so when he heard sirius betrayed the potters he simply let his emotions and tired mind speak.
5) When did he exactly did Dumbles "Slander, often, publicly acknowledge everyone's blame, or image attacks against Harry, without clarifying anything... neither did he publicly apologize for these attacks on Harry's reputation, especially when it was proved it wasn't Harry, Canon, all books he was in.
I don't see what he did to counter your argument. so please it would make me very happy if you said in which moment it happened.
ps: sorry for the long post.
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