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Enjou said:
A note on Snape - he hasn't been told about the Peter Pettigrew incident yet, and that may further affect relationship values. He'll probably take some satisfaction in us bringing to justice the man who actually betrayed the Potters to Voldemort and resulted in the woman he loves being murdered.
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Oh this definitely. I forgot about that. I believe our relationship meter will immediately skyrocket to friendly, probably more once he hears about his capture from Dumbledore. Could be after tomorrow or a week from now. Who knows I'm not sure how often Severus communicates with him on a daily basis.
 
...on the other hand, we're letting Sirius out of prison.

He might not like that as much.


In regards to earlier mentions of destroying all of the Horcruxes at once...it'd probably be easier to skip the Horcruxes. Voldemort's protected from Death, but...well, that's not the only option.

There are plenty of spells for destroying a mind, after all...and also plenty of sealing spells, although most of those aren't perfectly reliable. They'd certainly be good enough to get him out of the way so that we can hunt Horcruxes at our leisure.

Alternatively...does anyone know if there are any Denial-of-Existence spells in accessible media? Because if his root concept is annihilated, that should probably eliminate all of his component Souls as well...

...heh, shame that Exalted isn't out. There is a charm made precisely for attacking all of a being's separate Souls by attacking any single one of them.
 
Higure said:
...on the other hand, we're letting Sirius out of prison.

He might not like that as much.


In regards to earlier mentions of destroying all of the Horcruxes at once...it'd probably be easier to skip the Horcruxes. Voldemort's protected from Death, but...well, that's not the only option.

There are plenty of spells for destroying a mind, after all...and also plenty of sealing spells, although most of those aren't perfectly reliable. They'd certainly be good enough to get him out of the way so that we can hunt Horcruxes at our leisure.

Alternatively...does anyone know if there are any Denial-of-Existence spells in accessible media? Because if his root concept is annihilated, that should probably eliminate all of his component Souls as well...

...heh, shame that Exalted isn't out. There is a charm made precisely for attacking all of a being's separate Souls by attacking any single one of them.
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Even if Voldemort's main soul was destroyed, the other bits are separated to at least some degree. Unless you get some of that Exalted bullshit to attack everything at once, it'd be really hard to do so. According to the HP wiki, the soul parts separated are in the state they where when they were separated - this is why the diary's version appeared as a teenager, and why the eyes in the locket appeared more human. Even if we dealt with the main soul and destroyed it somehow, the other Horcruxes would essentially serve as backups from which an earlier version of Voldemort could be restored.

In fact, somehow dealing with the main soul before the Horcruxes are dealt with using fictional magic could have an interesting side-effect - what if that made it so all the Horcruxes started manifesting their own Voldemorts, and we end up with multiple Dark Lords to fight at once?
 
The other thing we can do is stick his mind in a rock and hang on to it and taunt it occasionally. Horcruxes don't do anything if you haven't died, and you can't be evil if you're a rock. Shouldn't even be hard to do; Trap the Soul is a classic D&D spell and has been around since at least 1e.
 
Vebyast said:
The other thing we can do is stick his mind in a rock and hang on to it and taunt it occasionally. Horcruxes don't do anything if you haven't died, and you can't be evil if you're a rock. Shouldn't even be hard to do; Trap the Soul is a classic D&D spell and has been around since at least 1e.
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Of course, it also requires we have a suitable gemstone of high enough value to trap someone of Voldemort's level, which is undoubtedly rather high... wouldn't it be ironic to trap his soul in the Philosopher's Stone?
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
And then the Elixir of Life was Voldemort Juice.

...

Let's do it.
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1. Ew.
2. Why ever would we taint a philosophers stone with voldemorts soul when we can just oblivate the shit out of him and toss his drooling body into the veil of death? Or you know. Petrify him. We only have to defeat him seven times that way and think of the sweet sweet XP we'd get for fighting the main boss multiple times.
 
jadecriminal said:
2. Why ever would we taint a philosophers stone with voldemorts soul when we can just oblivate the shit out of him and toss his drooling body into the veil of death? Or you know. Petrify him. We only have to defeat him seven times that way and think of the sweet sweet XP we'd get for fighting the main boss multiple times.
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I'm not sure if we could Obliviate him. Occlumency is the "magical defense of the mind against external penetration", and it prevents not just Leglimancy but also things like Verisitarum. Since Voldemort is a capable Occlumens, Obliviation may well fail to work since it's an attempt to penetrate the mind.
 
Enjou said:
I'm not sure if we could Obliviate him. Occlumency is the "magical defense of the mind against external penetration", and it prevents not just Leglimancy but also things like Verisitarum. Since Voldemort is a capable Occlumens, Obliviation may well fail to work since it's an attempt to penetrate the mind.
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So force feed him some Draughts of Befuddlement, toss a couple of confunduses at him and then obliviate him. Or just hit him over the head with a large rock and get him while he's concussed.
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
So force feed him some Draughts of Befuddlement, toss a couple of confunduses at him and then obliviate him. Or just hit him over the head with a large rock and get him while he's concussed.
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What makes you think that a magical defense of the mind that can resist Verisitarum and Leglimency would not also resist Draughts of Befuddlement and the Confundus Charm?

And if we can just bash him in the head with a rock we might as well just knock him out and do whatever without bothering with Obliviation.
 
[X] Yes
[X] Go ahead and use them as skill books. Not like they'll last very long anyway, and this was just a test.
[X] Potions
 
Enjou said:
What makes you think that a magical defense of the mind that can resist Verisitarum and Leglimency would not also resist Draughts of Befuddlement and the Confundus Charm?
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I suppose it depends if occlumency is always on or not. If it's an active thing for people other than Harry, catching them by surprise with mental effects would work. If it's passive, no such luck.
Enjou said:
And if we can just bash him in the head with a rock we might as well just knock him out and do whatever without bothering with Obliviation.
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I thought the obliviation was the point?
 
...we could just knock him out, break through his defenses using legilimancy, and then shred his mind once we're inside? Alternatively, there are plenty of spells for attacking the mind in other sources...one or another should be able to break through.

Even more alternatively...just lobotomize him.
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
I suppose it depends if occlumency is always on or not. If it's an active thing for people other than Harry, catching them by surprise with mental effects would work. If it's passive, no such luck.
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For us at least it's passive, and I imagine any experienced Occlumens also is able to run it passively.

I thought the obliviation was the point?
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The suggestion was obliviate than then throw him through the veil of death. I'm not sure why the obliviation part would be needed.
 
I meant to ask this earlier. Our current title "Boy who Lived" has the following effect:
  • All reputation/relationship gain and losses doubled.
So did that apply to the following already or not yet?
Halpo133 said:
[+30 relationship with Neville Longbottom for actions on the train and boat ride]
[+30 relationship with Hermione Granger for actions on the train and boat ride]
[+30 relationship with Susan Bones for action on the train and boat ride]
[+20 relationship with Ronald Weasley for actions on the train]
[+20 relationship with Hannah Abbot for actions on the train]
[+10 relationship with Draco Malfoy for actions on the train]
[+8 relationship with Greg Goyle for actions on the train]
[+8 relationship with Vince Crabbe for actions on the train]
[+10 relationship with Albus Dumbledore for actions on the train]
[+20 relationship with Alastor Moody for actions on the train]
[+10 relationship with Amelia Bones for actions on the train]

After that you proceed to answer the Hat's questions, and after it deliberates on your answers it murmurs in your head, "Your personal choice and the results both agree that you belong in Gryffindor!"

[Quest Complete!]
Reward: 20xp, Gryffindor Title

[+10 relationship with Ronald Weasley]
[+10 relationship with Fred Weasley]
[+10 relationship with George Weasley]
[-10 relationship with Draco Malfoy]
[-10 relationship with Severus Snape]
[+10 relationship with Minerva McGonagall]
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I haven't been keeping track of Snape's relationship score, But it is now at 25/30 - Unfriendly. So I guess that means it was 15/30 before this recent change, Still Unfriendly? I thought we were on a bit better terms since that encounter at the potion shop. Then again, like I said before, I don't check the first post very often.
 
Mandabar said:
I haven't been keeping track of Snape's relationship score, But it is now at 25/30 - Unfriendly. So I guess that means it was 15/30 before this recent change, Still Unfriendly? I thought we were on a bit better terms since that encounter at the potion shop. Then again, like I said before, I don't check the first post very often.
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No, it was at 5/30 - Neutral. When it went down top, it went down through the top of Unfriendly.
 
Trondason said:
No, it was at 5/30 - Neutral. When it went down top, it went down through the top of Unfriendly.
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Ahhh. I see. Thank you. Do you know about the doubled gain/losses thing? If not I'm going to assume all those gain/losses were half their stated value before modification from our title. So Crabbe/Goyle were both 4 point gains double to 8, and the others were multiples of 5 that were doubled when this popup was cleared.
 
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