The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

I do not really care. We will outgrow Dumbledore is a few years. What is he going to do? Kill Harry on suspicion?

So we're basically going down this route to befriend Draco fucking Malfoy and if, in the process, we alienate Albus Dumbledore, it doesn't matter?
Are you serious?

Hells yes.

Unaided flight was also thought impossible, but look at what Voldemort can do. Clearly, as the Boy-Who-Lived, defeater of the Greatest Dark Lord since Grindelwald, and soon to be the Boy-Who-Detected...

[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Exploding Snap

[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Voldemort was a GENIUS and even he didn't invent new spells in his first year. Can we stop thinking about shinies for a minute and think of risk vs reward?
 
Pretty sure Draco is not going to be all that hurt. I mean if things go as planned, Harry is just going to suddenly expose that Rons pet rat is an animagus mass murderer thats been hiding as a rat for years and years, and capture the rat (which will be big news that will impress a lot of people).

Frankly, he will be utterly shocked. Heck, if you wan't to become friends with Draco, this is actually better in some ways. Pettigrew will attract everyones attention, and adults will be called to the scene so Ron vs Malfoy or Malfoy calling Hermione mudblood or such is not going to happen.

The only thing Malfoy will get from this scene is that Harry is both very skilled and very powerfull (not a bad first impression). It also means that we can probably arrange a meeting later, on our own terms if we want to.

The possibility of being friends with Malfoy is almost enough to make me change my vote.:p

So we're basically going down this route to befriend Draco fucking Malfoy and if, in the process, we alienate Albus Dumbledore, it doesn't matter?

See above. I just do not care about vague suspicions in comparison to what we can gain here.
 
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Would any of you consider changing your votes for handling Draco to this new and totally amusing option? It's not like Ron has an evil, traitorous animagus in his pocket...

[] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Damn my love of derailing canon. You realize this is going to end with us being shanked by Pettigrew, right?

*Sigh* Vote changed.
 
[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.

[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Harry will be known as a genius one way or the other. I'm not exactly worried about this spell.

"How were you able to make such a spell?"
"I'm not sure. Maybe my magic reacts to evil because I was exposed to Voldemort so young"
"That's not how it works!"
"No one is supposed to survive the Killing Curse either..."
 
We will teach the wizarding world that spell and destroy what's left of their common sense. No need for Sneakoscopes or other unreliable Dark detectors anymore! No need to bother with discovering the motives of your allies and enemies! No need to look after that orphan who you suspect to be secretly a sociopath!

Just cast a Detect Evil and proceed accordingly.
 
See above. I just do not care about vague suspicions in comparison to what we can gain here.
What do we gain by befriending Draco Malfoy? A supremely racist prick who's only defense is "My father will hear of this?" Dumbledore is atleast as politically connected as Lucius Malfoy and doesn't have the Death Eater stigma associated with him.


Technically speaking, Voldemort invented wandless, wordless spells BEFORE first year.

And I'm not looking at shinies, I'm looking at hilarity.
Voldemort could force weak willed creatures to do what he wanted and make things float. We're talking about a full blown spell here. Huge difference.
 
The point is we don't know who Pettigrew is IC. Are people really voting to Detect Evil based on Meta knowledge?

Were joking around and casting it IC to try and calm the situation with Malfoy. Harry will be quite shocked to discover Pettigrew IC (good think Moody trained him well). And will Harry know who Pettigrew is? Ofcourse not, but Harry will know that he is a random stranger who was hiding as a rat in the pocket of 11 year old child without said childs knowledge. Harry might well think he is somekind of pedophile actually (as will the older students most likely).

Dumbledore and the teachers at the school however will recognize him, which will allow Harry to learn about Sirius and the whole mess IC.


Accidental magic, by nature, happens when a child is in emotional distress and what situation would we be in emotional distress and trying to detect evil creatures? Also, we really want Dumbledore to relate us to Tom in terms of practicing magic before we get a wand?

I don't really see what the problem with this is? Dumbledore KNOWS we have been given magical tutoring by Moody, and permission to cast spells by the ministry. The idea that Harry has done random experiments with magic is hardly going to be a huge shock to him. Heck, its not something we got from the multiverse thing, so apparently its something that can be done with HP magic by anyone (just very hard). And we started the experiments after getting our wand.

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Basically, this won't be a huge issue that we can't get around.
 
You can't practice accidental magic, because you know, it's accidental.
Accidental magic, by nature, happens when a child is in emotional distress and what situation would we be in emotional distress and trying to detect evil creatures?

Then we were practicing trying to do wandless magic, because we thought it would be neat, and some stuff happened by accident.

As to the situation, it doesn't particularly matter. Accidental magic is a bit random.

Also, we really want Dumbledore to relate us to Tom in terms of practicing magic before we get a wand?

We were practicing it only after getting our wand, with Ministry permission, due to having Moody supervise us. We also asked Moody to remove the tail that Hagrid gave Dudley, so clearly we're not the type to use our magic to hurt people who are mean to us.


You realize this is going to end with us being shanked by Pettigrew, right?

Peter: *shanks Harry*
Harry: *-20 HP, kicks Pettigrew in the balls*
 
You are not getting my point. I actively hate Malfoys and just want to catch the rat.
Then wait for a more opportune moment then a train cart full of untrained 11 year olds. We have the whole of Hogwarts to find a opportune moment to cast detect evil around Pettigrew that doesn't involve us revealing our powers to a potential Death Eater.


Then we were practicing trying to do wandless magic,
We were practicing it only after getting our wand
Bit of a discrepancy there. We chose not to reveal our powers to Dumbledore but now we want to cast a never before seen spell in front of a bunch of 11 year olds because??
 
What do we gain by befriending Draco Malfoy? A supremely racist prick who's only defense is "My father will hear of this?" Dumbledore is atleast as politically connected as Lucius Malfoy and doesn't have the Death Eater stigma associated with him.

I don't personally care about Malfoy one way or other. I don't much like the canon one, but if theres some redemption then the one in this quest won't be him. Admittedly I am not all that invested in redeeming Draco, but neither will I care if it happens. Malfoy at this point is just a stupid kid and nothing more.

As for Dumbledore, where exactly do you get the idea that CAPTURING A FREAKING DEATH EATER will alienate him? We have been trained by Moody. We have not broken any laws.

Are you seriously saying that the guy who knows a prophecy that states that Harry will kill Voldemort due to having unknown powers will be angered that Harry will capture one of Voldemorts followers with unknown powers.

He will be secretly dancing in joy that Harry is already demonstrating the prophecied anti-Voldemort/anti-evil powers he is relying on to take Voldemort out.

At worst, we can always just tell him the truth. Odds are that we will do that eventually anyway, after getting to know Dumbledore better (though we will want an Oath from him due to Moodys warning. CONSTANT VIGILANCE!).
 
Then wait for a more opportune moment then a train cart full of untrained 11 year olds. We have the whole of Hogwarts to find a opportune moment to cast detect evil around Pettigrew that doesn't involve us revealing our powers to a potential Death Eater.

Actually I do not think we do. Hogwarts will offer him far more places to run to and we may never get an IC reason to cast Detect Evil with Scabers in the room.
 
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Voldemort could force weak willed creatures to do what he wanted and make things float. We're talking about a full blown spell here. Huge difference.
Ickle Tommy Riddle had the poor man's cruciatus and a poor man's imperio/legilimency down before Hogwarts age, without a wand. He could use them as he willed. Those sound like spells to me.

The Wizarding World has a lot of expectations about Harry. With the Gamer powers, we can meet and even exceed those expectations. I see no reason to hide our exceptionalism.
 
Bit of a discrepancy there. We chose not to reveal our powers to Dumbledore but now we want to cast a never before seen spell in front of a bunch of 11 year olds because??

We had an entire week after that for it to happen. Just mention nothing of the timeframe and let them draw their own conclusions.
 
Ickle Tommy Riddle had the poor man's cruciatus and a poor man's imperio/legilimency down before Hogwarts age, without a wand. He could use them as he willed. Those sound like spells to me.

The Wizarding World has a lot of expectations about Harry. With the Gamer powers, we can meet and even exceed those expectations. I see no reason to hide our exceptionalism.
How about we voted to be creeped out by fame? Or we voted to keep our powers hidden unless we had to reveal them? There is no IC reason for Harry to cast an unknown spell AT ALL. If we liked fame, sure. If we didn't care about who knew what our powers were, sure.
 
[X] Suggest playing a game.
-[X] Teach them D&D.

[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Changing my vote to this because yes. If anyone asks: "Guys, Hedwig totally just told me that she saw the rat transform. True story."
 
Tally.

Vote tally:
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What to do?

[x] Suggest playing a game.
No. of votes: 45
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Zaratustra, Godogma, Grass, sleepyforest, Larekko12, the DragonBard, Ethereal Vitali, Swimmingly, IceWing, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, Evaunit02mark1, TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Heretek, Brandark, KnightofTempest, R. E. Lee, Vindictus, skaro, RandomLurker, Tylonius, owrtho, Fredo, Bloodalchemy, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, Enjou, darthdavid, inawarminister, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, WCSII, EasyCo

-[X] Teach them DD, they'll probably enjoy it since it has all sorts of magic and stuff and also it may help farm Int and such things.
No. of votes: 33
Godogma, Ethereal Vitali, CatScannerDarkly, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Kerfirou, Grass, inawarminister, sleepyforest, Larekko12, Vindictus,
Zaratustra, Mistofshadows, Great_BrightSlap, IceWing,Evaunit02mark1,TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Heretek,owrtho, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, darthdavid, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, Crazy7s1, WCSII, EasyCo

-[X] Poker
No. of votes: 7
Trondason, the DragonBard, Swimmingly, R. E. Lee, skaro, Bloodalchemy, Enjou

-[x] Exploding snap
No. of votes: 5
Alanek, Brandark, RandomLurker, Tylonius, Dr. Bob Doom

-[X] Cripple Mr. Onion
No. of votes: 1
KnightofTempest

[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.
No. of votes: 5
Goldfish, Myrzael, solodark28, AZATHOTHoth, Edkose

-[X]Perhaps focus on conversation on the most OP games they've played, or high synergistic results. Anything that can insta kill or nosell dark magic or dark lords should be a priority
No. of votes: 1
Mandabar

What to do with Draco?

[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
No. of votes: 25
Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, Enjou, Datakim, Myrzael, darthdavid, DragonParadox, solodark28, Deathstorm50, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, AZATHOTHoth, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, WCSII, EasyCo

-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
No. of votes: 25
Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, Enjou, Datakim, Myrzael, darthdavid, DragonParadox, solodark28, Deathstorm50, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, AZATHOTHoth, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, WCSII, EasyCo

--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
No. of votes: 18
Unelemental, Enjou, Datakim, Myrzael, darthdavid, DragonParadox, Deathstorm50, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, AZATHOTHoth, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, WCSII, EasyCo

[x] Thank him for his time but explain that you already have friends capable of helping you figure these things out.
No. of votes: 14
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Godogma, Ethereal Vitali, Mistofshadows, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, TMIoverload, Louie the Lilac, Torgamous, Brandark, KnightofTempest, Tylonius, Goldfish

[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
No. of votes: 12
Zaratustra, Grass, Larekko12, the DragonBard, Evaunit02mark1, Heretek, R. E. Lee, skaro, Mandabar, owrtho, Bloodalchemy, inawarminister


[X] Shut the door in his face, you don't feel like dealing with snobs.
No. of votes: 1
sleepyforest

[X] Invite him in, and his friends, too.
No. of votes: 1
Swimmingly

[X] Thank him for his time but explain that you would figure it out yourself
No. of votes: 1
Great_BrightSlap

[x] So... Couple of things... First, you're introducing yourself first by your surname. Indicating that you believe your family to be of the utmost importance, even more than your own identity. Then you re-introduce yourself, using your first name and your last name. Do you have a middle name? And, is that your actual full name? (Harry is wondering if he can find out Draco's True Name, which, per most magical systems, gives you some power over others. He has previously determined he will not give his full name to anybody at school, just in case.
No. of votes: 1
IceWing

Edit: Tally modified to take into account @EasyCo vote.
 
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How about we voted to be creeped out by fame? Or we voted to keep our powers hidden unless we had to reveal them? There is no IC reason for Harry to cast an unknown spell AT ALL. If we liked fame, sure. If we didn't care about who knew what our powers were, sure.

Stop saying that we are revealing our powers. HOW will Dumbledore or anyone go from "Harry invented a new spell" to "The world is a videogame to Harry".

By casting the spell, we are revealing something yes. We are revealing that Harry is an incredibly skilled prodigy. You know what else will reveal that?

This:

Disillusionment Charm(IBoI, 6th year equivalent)
Scent Removal Charm(IBoI, 4th year equivalent)
Sound Muffling Charm(IBoL, 4th year equivalent)
Privacy Bubble Charm(4th year equivalent)
Room Sealing Charm(6th year equivalent)
Copy Charm(4th year equivalent)
Minor inanimate conjuration(Harry Potter series)(4th year equivilant, 25MP)
Headcold Jinx(4th year equivalent, Lockheart)
Living to inanimate transfiguration(nonhuman)(3rd year)
Legilimancy lvl 1/50
Occulmency lvl 16/50

Mage Sight 5/100

  • Brew all first year potions perfectly
  • Brew all second year potions perfectly
  • Brew all third year potions perfectly
 
[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Sounds like fun, so why not.
 
Stop saying that we are revealing our powers. HOW will Dumbledore or anyone go from "Harry invented a new spell" to "The world is a videogame to Harry".

By casting the spell, we are revealing something yes. We are revealing that Harry is an incredibly skilled prodigy. You know what else will reveal that?

This:

Disillusionment Charm(IBoI, 6th year equivalent)
Scent Removal Charm(IBoI, 4th year equivalent)
Sound Muffling Charm(IBoL, 4th year equivalent)
Privacy Bubble Charm(4th year equivalent)
Room Sealing Charm(6th year equivalent)
Copy Charm(4th year equivalent)
Minor inanimate conjuration(Harry Potter series)(4th year equivilant, 25MP)
Headcold Jinx(4th year equivalent, Lockheart)
Living to inanimate transfiguration(nonhuman)(3rd year)
Legilimancy lvl 1/50
Occulmency lvl 16/50
Mage Sight 5/100


  • Brew all first year potions perfectly
  • Brew all second year potions perfectly
  • Brew all third year potions perfectly
How about an eleven year old is creating high level spells and that sounds kind of shady? At best, Dumbledore pays a lot more attention to us and we aren't hiding anything under his scrutiny for long. All the things you listed are spells already made in the HP universe. Reading ahead is not the same as creating new spells. And again, I still haven't seen an IC reason to cast Detect Evil.
 
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