Ok. I can't see a possible way pressing this is helpful to town.
And vaguely claiming to know information and then evading the whole thing isn't?
I agree with IH here. You keep pushing. If you're town and we're town then this is bad news for town. And if you're town and we're scum then you're not actually going to prove anything or get us to claim anything. This only reads as you trying to get us to claim town which is bad for town and good for scum. I really don't like this.
Hardcore wine, there is a chance to clear up the set-up which you've gone and said no to. And if your scum your basically saying scum-hunting is pointless, and frankly HOW IS CLAIMING TOWN BAD FOR TOWN? Like seriously? Scum will claim town, Town will claim town, even 3P who just need to survive will claim town.
It almost feels like they're claiming to know something, but those somethings are actually different?
Unsure.
My latest interaction with Cyriccubed in particular very much reads like them trying to find out if I have a power role which gave me the information that all town has.
Except I'm not? You've hinted you have information, and then have been saying that giving out that information will paint a target on your back when I pointed out that by hinting you have said information you have already put said target on your back in the first place. There is no posting past death if you look in the rules, you can't get lynched and reveal your grand scheme there.
You tell me that I shouldn't reveal info because it makes me a target. That I shouldn't have posted back to back with IH. But then you want me to reveal more info to prove I actually am a target?
Your already a target if your town, It isn't good to do a half reveal of oh hey I have information pertinent to the game/town and then also say: No revealing that information is bad for town because then your just confusing people and it's exceptionally aggrevating.
I that would be a bad idea. And I definitely wouldn't be on board with lynching anybody for not leaking info Day 1.
Except that's what those two have been doing?
Yes, this theory pretty much has to be debunked based on the info IJW has provided for us in relation to our role cards.
No. It's not. Imagine a set-up with two town factions but no scum. Is there actually and difference between town or no?
Essentially, @InterstellarHobo made a suggestion that there might not be a scum team, knowing that isn't consistent with information that town should have.
No. Because I was not told: There is a scum team. Keep this in mind.
And I said the GM. Did you not read what I said?
You can say that, but we can't see what the "GM" said to you so this statement is pointless.
This is basically claiming not to be town, right? Am I reading this wrong???
Yes. You are.
These do not work together. If I'm doing an informed townie act, I am informed.
If I am making up the information wholesale, I somehow got ondine and Mesonoxonian to go along with it, despite having entirely bogus information.
It could be an extremely ballsy and equally bad scum play, as opposed to a rather ballsy and not-quite-commensurately bad town play.
Except meso didn't really go with it like Ondine did, I can excpect Ondine to go with it especially in a world of !scum IH and ondine. Buuut more on this later.
I will claim town. My wincon is that everyone else has to die. Not terribly surprising. So, look, now scum has a nice juicy night target. I would rather lose than have people screaming for the next however many days.
More on this soon.
I think there is a path to victory here, but I can't bring myself to feel particularly happy about it.
More on this soon
I've agreed with the reasoning from the get go, if not the conclusion that also makes extremely arbitrary assumptions about behavior. In missing this, I think non-town have inadvertently outed themselves, namely Nictis and Cyricubed.
Think your wrong here but then again Nictis wasn't a Test subject so big shrug here.
And yeah, sorry for being so caustic @ondine @InterstellarHobo, it's just really frustrating to be playing mafia and have the others just be playing with their rolecards instead of playing in a way that allows actual engagement.
Plus you two holding back the info Town was supposed to know was really annoying when I'm trying to figure out if I am or not.
Agreed.
If everyone is telling the truth, the obvious way forward is to lynch Nictis and then go hunting for the others in the "Control Group". The question is whether we want to.
[X] Null
No. No, I don't think so. Lets explore what we know thanks to people revealing things
Test Subject - Need everyone else dead
Control Group - Need Killing to stop
Now in theory this is the standard set-up of a social experiment...but we're missing a key thing. An Independent Variable.
Now the biggest question here is if the scum in question is 3 person group, or a Sk. Because I now believe Town is actually divided evenly between Test Subjects and Control Group. Either 5/5/3 or 6/6/1 . Although my general idea that a independent variable might be taken literally aka SK but this is vague speculation. Thoughts?
