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The Morrsley Village Experiment

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Besides it's not like I'm advocating for Nictis' strategy of zeroing in on you two anyway. Frankly I think it's too suboptimal to even consider narrowing the lynch pool to two people already.
 
Cyricubed said:
You both have more or less openly admitted to knowing something...which I can't understand why you both did that back to back. It's just painted a target on your backs so I almost want to press for an explanation here.
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-Rosen said:
It almost feels like they're claiming to know something, but those somethings are actually different?

Makes me think these two aren't teamed together atm.

Unless I'm looking at this from the wrong angle because frankly I'm done with this role card stuff now
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You tell me that I shouldn't reveal info because it makes me a target. That I shouldn't have posted back to back with IH. But then you want me to reveal more info to prove I actually am a target?

Does no one else find this problematic??

And I posted right after IH cause I saw what he posted and had literally just refreshed the page and thought it was an interesting play. If anything that should be a sign that I at least know what he's talking about. I responded like a second later, not a lot of time to consider my supposed lying scummy plan.
 
ondine said:
I agree with IH here. You keep pushing. If you're town and we're town then this is bad news for town. And if you're town and we're scum then you're not actually going to prove anything or get us to claim anything. This only reads as you trying to get us to claim town which is bad for town and good for scum. I really don't like this.
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"If we're scum, pressuring us won't actually do anything dood!"
This is not helping the scum read dood!
ondine said:
Also, I'd respectfully like to add Cyricubed to this discussion, because he keeps pushing some shifty stuff. And I think others would agree with that.
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Don't just pretend that you have the public opinion dood!
I'm pretty sure that the disbelief towards your claim isn't coming from him alone dood!
And I disagree with what you're saying about Cyri dood!
He's not pushing bad stuff, he's pressuring people who are claiming to know stuff but refusing to clarify even the barest of details to confirm dood!
RaptorusMaximus said:
What does this mean.
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There's a website that hosts anonymous chatrooms dood!
People who are in communication with each other are given a link to the room dood!
InterstellarHobo said:
Hm.
[X] Lynch Cyriccubed

I reread Shadell's posts, and it is somewhat plausible that they have been carefully trying to look like they might not be town.
I don't think that's the case, but it's probably not enough to lynch on.

Cyriccubed and Nictis are pretty likely to genuinely not be town.
My latest interaction with Cyriccubed in particular very much reads like them trying to find out if I have a power role which gave me the information that all town has.
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Why are you trying to lynch Cyricubed for calling you out dood?

I'm calling bullshit dood!
I have openly stated not to know what you were talking about, and asked for clarification dood!
According to you, me not knowing would be proof that I am non-Town dood!
You refuse to give any way for people to actually know what you're talking about dood!
You're acting overly vague and your votes don't line up to your reasoning dood!

I'm not Town Reading Cyricubed currently, I've been liking his play so far but I can't tell if it's scum taking advantage of Town being Bad or if it's Town trying to point out the issues in what you're trying to do dood!
I am scum reading you when you're using vague reasoning that can't be examined to push lynches, and ignoring the person who is known to fit the criteria dood!

Quite frankly, at this point it's either reveal what you were talking about or die dood!
 
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Alright, I'm going to cut the prinny stuff for a minute here. I need to explain this to you @ondine.

I'm going to go eat first, but when I get back I'm going to explain the situation and why I'm calling you two out on this.
 
mesonoxian said:
I that would be a bad idea. And I definitely wouldn't be on board with lynching anybody for not leaking info Day 1.
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They've gotten literally half the thread to leak information in a way that has been absolutely useless, and refuse to do even the slightest of harmless clarification that would either clear up confusion or allow people to check what they're saying. They've decided instead to just call everyone who disagrees with them scum.
 
Not gonna lie I don't like either of the lynch pools that are being thrown around right now. I feel like this is just gonna argue in circles and nothing is actually going to happen.

Gonna look into some other interactions when I'm back from class.
 
Nictis said:
They've gotten literally half the thread to leak information in a way that has been absolutely useless, and refuse to do even the slightest of harmless clarification that would either clear up confusion or allow people to check what they're saying. They've decided instead to just call everyone who disagrees with them scum.
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I haven't noticed anything significant being leaked.

The important part was that information in the town rolecard makes a town-only game impossible. Revealing exactly what that information is will only help people who didn't get a town role card.

Now go eat!
 
Why is nobody considering that if this game was Town-Only that the role card probably wouldn't actually say that it was? Town-Only games usually have some strange clause attached to it that remove the actual guarantee of a Town victory (at least I think that's happened once here before, I remember someone talking about a Town-Only game that could only be won if a unanimous No-Lynch happened two days in a row or something like that).

Considering that, I think this whole idea might just be bullshit and a waste of time.
 
-Rosen said:
Why is nobody considering that if this game was Town-Only that the role card probably wouldn't actually say that it was? Town-Only games usually have some strange clause attached to it that remove the actual guarantee of a Town victory (at least I think that's happened once here before, I remember someone talking about a Town-Only game that could only be won if a unanimous No-Lynch happened two days in a row or something like that).

Considering that, I think this whole idea might just be bullshit and a waste of time.
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I'm actually low key kicking myself for not considering this sooner because it actually did pop into the back of my head since somebody definitely mentioned it at some point.
 
Nictis said:
Quite frankly, at this point it's either reveal what you were talking about or die dood!
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... What was it you just said? Oh.

Nictis said:
Don't just pretend that you have the public opinion dood!
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Honestly, the nerve.

Nictis said:
They've gotten literally half the thread to leak information in a way that has been absolutely useless, and refuse to do even the slightest of harmless clarification that would either clear up confusion or allow people to check what they're saying. They've decided instead to just call everyone who disagrees with them scum.
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I can't answer the one question you have asked because I don't understand it. I will answer what I think you're asking? possibly? even though it will likely get me killed because this situation is pretty fucked up.

I believe the GM.
 
-Rosen said:
Wait where was this? I must be blind because I didn't see anything like that.

(Unless I was the one that said it and I'm a forgetful idiot LOL)
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This set of exchanges right here:

InterstellarHobo said:
So I'm curious- who finds it plausible that there might be only town faction?
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InterstellarHobo said:
If true, that would be a compelling reason to lynch null
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Shadell said:
As we don't know how if there are scum factions, how many there might be, or whether survivors exist, so I'd be a little more leery of openly claiming town than you seem to be doing here.

Of course, if any scum would like to confirm that they exist, I'm sure everyone would be incredibly grateful for the assistance!
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Shadell said:
To clarify, anyone who answers that question with "I think there's only town" is implicitly claiming to be town, and the question itself reads a bit like fishing.

If there's exactly one scum faction who knows each other and everyone else is town, this is fine, but my impression is that games here tend to be a bit more complicated, and we know the set-up has some trick going on here, bastard or not.

If there's a scum faction that wants town (and not, say, other scum who they don't automatically know, jesters, or unrelated survivors) dead ASAP, you're painting a target on yourself. With little info on the set-up, that kind of open claim seems like it carries a lot of risks until we have a better sense of the composition.

I'm not entirely sure there's presently any scum though, as I don't think anything in the rules has stated that.
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IH mentions the possibility of needing to vote null because there is no scum faction, which Shadell speculates on.
 
Okay, looked over at the Rumor and I can say that it's still a possibility in my book, but probably more likely not the case.
 
-Rosen said:
Okay, looked over at the Rumor and I can say that it's still a possibility in my book, but probably more likely not the case.
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That being said we should be paying attention to how the flips go throughout the game and keep this in mind if we see an abnormal amount of Town dying over time.
 
mesonoxian said:
I am pretty much 100% certain that isn't the case.
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Rightfully so. Tbh I'm just kinda paranoid about the whole "debastardized" thing this game has going for it, and with the way the conversation played out, I don't necessarily want to count it out entirely. Chances are we'll have some certainty sooner rather than later anyway, so no harm done imo.
 
-Rosen said:
Rightfully so. Tbh I'm just kinda paranoid about the whole "debastardized" thing this game has going for it, and with the way the conversation played out, I don't necessarily want to count it out entirely. Chances are we'll have some certainty sooner rather than later anyway, so no harm done imo.
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Read through @I just write 's posts clarifying things since Day 1 started. I don't think they leave any room for that possibility.
 
Alright so the other major issue thats come up is people fishing for specific info on rolecards or something like that. Maybe we should simplify that for the newer players (Not me) so that they can catch up on whats happened on that front (Once again, not me)
 
Okay I'm going back in my hole for a couple hours, putting all this information together during class took a lot out of me oops
 
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