Flagship Name

  • Spirit of Fire

    Votes: 21 47.7%
  • Vigilance

    Votes: 23 52.3%

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Just a question, could we make Runes of Order? Like the ones from Extra Primarch? That would be invaluable in a fight against Eldar and or powerful Psykers.
 
someone brought this up at one point and I want to repeat it....

We should start up a policy where all of our platoons (I don't know the astartes group size, platoon, chapter, legion,..,???...???) have someone dedicated to helping the other astartes mental heath like Scarfir did. Once we do this we can start advocating that other legions do this as well.

what are the requirements to this.
 
We'll need to have a talk about that.

Why thank you, Fulgrim. Though Bile does mean an interesting opportunity...

Can we have Bile do some Warp Genetics research for us so we can do other stuff? Actually, can he take a look at the geneseed of Magnus, Leman, and Sanguinius? Perhaps he can fix their flaws.
does he even exist yet? also, maybe part of his skill comes from his blessings as a chaos follower and thus would not have it this go-around....hopefully
 
Just a question, could we make Runes of Order? Like the ones from Extra Primarch? That would be invaluable in a fight against Eldar and or powerful Psykers.

someone brought this up at one point and I want to repeat it....

We should start up a policy where all of our platoons (I don't know the astartes group size, platoon, chapter, legion,..,???...???) have someone dedicated to helping the other astartes mental heath like Scarfir did. Once we do this we can start advocating that other legions do this as well.

what are the requirements to this.

You can make order runes, but those likely don't have the effect you want. A rune of blank or materium would do that however.

For that, just add that into the other category when it comes up. That or wait till you get a hero unit that has this effect.
 
I could not find a sapience rune on the rune sheet did I just not see it or is it not there? and what about a grandmaster unifying rune to allow for pseudo-gesalt minds to be formed?
 
@Daemon Hunter Can we have Bile do some Warp Genetics research for us so we can do other stuff? Actually, can he take a look at the geneseed of Magnus, Leman, and Sanguinius? Perhaps he can fix their flaws.
 
I could not find a sapience rune on the rune sheet did I just not see it or is it not there? and what about a grandmaster unifying rune to allow for pseudo-gesalt minds to be formed?

@Daemon Hunter Can we have Bile do some Warp Genetics research for us so we can do other stuff? Actually, can he take a look at the geneseed of Magnus, Leman, and Sanguinius? Perhaps he can fix their flaws.

Well, the runes there are just a guideline, anything you can think of can be a rune. For that idea, that's actually an idea in a different tech tree.

Bile is actually reviewing your notes on gene seed. As he is right now, it takes him time to properly understand Kesar's work, and you are coming out with a new set of ideas covering gene-seed.
 
Well, the runes there are just a guideline, anything you can think of can be a rune. For that idea, that's actually an idea in a different tech tree.

Bile is actually reviewing your notes on gene seed. As he is right now, it takes him time to properly understand Kesar's work, and you are coming out with a new set of ideas covering gene-seed.
hes too dumb to help us it seems....

although I'm surprised he even has permission to look? I know the admech are not insane just yet but still
 
hes too dumb to help us it seems....

although I'm surprised he even has permission to look? I know the admech are not insane just yet but still
Bile is not dumb. In canon he successfully created a clone of Fulgrim. That is not within the purview of a stupid man. However, if given about 1-3 years, I think we can start seeing some interesting results.
 
hes too dumb to help us it seems....

although I'm surprised he even has permission to look? I know the admech are not insane just yet but still

It's more that it takes him some time to properly understand Kesar's notes and then apply them towards the Emperor's Children since Kesar's notes focus on the Eternal Wardens and he has to translate that over. Also, he has the notes since people voted to share knowledge in the past.
 
It's more that it takes him some time to properly understand Kesar's notes and then apply them towards the Emperor's Children since Kesar's notes focus on the Eternal Wardens and he has to translate that over. Also, he has the notes since people voted to share knowledge in the past.
ah, ok.

but I think we are still left not being able to know IC about Bile
 
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A Glimpse of Future: Last Continent Part Twelve
A Glimpse of Future: Last Continent Part Twelve
Island of Whispering Sorrows which is situated in the northern coast of Shangri-La is dedicated to the death of one woman. A general of great wisdom, she was steadfast in the face of the Daemons, unswervingly loyal in the face of temptation, compassionate in response to injustice and very much beloved of her husband who is one of the greatest Geomancers of Valhalla. When the War ended and it seemed as if peace would finally descend once more upon Valhalla, she was struck down by deluded assassins still clinging to the hope of the Daemon's return. Her death on the eve of longed-for peace was all the more bitter—not only to her husband but to many of her friends who had known her well and loved her for her spiritual strength. They retaliated against her treacherous killers and destroyed not only the assassins but the entire landscape from whence they'd sprung. Whatever people had once thrived on the island off the coast of the Shangri-La were entirely eradicated, down to their names.

Such destruction leaves scars, even unto the glorious Era of Imperium. Her husband has transformed the Island into a gigantic slate-, granite- and silver-threaded mausoleum of black and white marble for his wife. More importantly, the island has been attuned to the memories of her life. During her extensive and splendid funerary rites, peoples who knew her donated cherished memories of their association with her to the memento mori they were creating on the island where she met her death.

The tomb is the central focus of the entire complex of the mausoleum. It is a large, white marble structure standing on a square plinth and consists of a symmetrical building with an arch-shaped doorway or 'iwan' topped by a large dome and finial. The base structure is a large multi-chambered cube with chamfered corners forming an unequal eight-sided structure that is approximately 550 meters on each of the four long sides. Each side of the iwan is framed with a huge vaulted archway with two similarly shaped arched balconies stacked on either side. This motif of stacked archways is replicated on the chamfered corner areas, making the design completely symmetrical on all sides of the building. Four minarets frame the tomb, one at each corner of the plinth facing the chamfered corners.

The most spectacular feature is the marble dome that surmounts the tomb. The dome is nearly 300 meters high which is close in measurement to the length of the base, and accentuated by the cylindrical "drum" it sits on which is approximately 70 meters high. Because of its shape, the dome is often called an onion dome or amrud (guava dome). The top is decorated with a lotus design which also serves to accentuate its height. The shape of the dome is emphasized by four smaller domed kiosks placed at its corners, which replicate the onion shape of the main dome.

The dome is slightly asymmetrical. Their columned bases open through the roof of the tomb and provide light to the interior. Tall decorative spires extend from edges of base walls and provide visual emphasis to the height of the dome. The lotus motif is repeated on both the kiosks and spires. The dome and kiosks are topped by a gilded finial which mixes Ancient Buddhist and Indian decorative elements. The main finial is made of gold and it is topped by a Lotus Flower, a typical Valhallan motif whose petals point heavenward.

The minarets, which are each more than 100 meters tall, display the designer's penchant for symmetry. They were designed as working minarets— a traditional element of ancient mosques. Each minaret is effectively divided into three equal parts by two working balconies that ring the tower. At the top of the tower is a final balcony surmounted by a kiosk that mirrors the design of those on the tomb. The kiosks all share the same decorative elements of a lotus design topped by a gilded finial. The minarets were constructed slightly outside of the plinth so that in the event of collapse, the material from the towers would tend to fall away from the tomb.

The exterior decorations of the mausoleum are among the finest in Valhallan architecture. As the surface area changes, the decorations are refined proportionally. The decorative elements were created by applying paint, stucco, stone inlays or carvings. In line with the Valhallan Tradition, the decorative elements can be grouped into either calligraphy, abstract forms or vegetative motifs. Throughout the complex are passages from the Heart Sutra that comprise some of the decorative elements. The calligraphy on the Great Gate reads "O Soul, thou art at rest. Return to the Lord at peace with Him, and He at peace with you." Much of the calligraphy is composed of florid Sanskrit script made of jasper or black marble inlaid in white marble panels. Higher panels are written in slightly larger script to reduce the skewing effect when viewed from below. The calligraphy found on the marble Gateways in the tomb is particularly detailed and delicate.

Abstract forms are used throughout, especially in the plinth, minarets, gateway, and, to a lesser extent, on the surfaces of the tomb. The domes and vaults of the sandstone buildings are worked with tracery of incised painting to create elaborate geometric forms. Herringbone inlays define the space between many of the adjoining elements. White inlays are used in sandstone buildings and dark or black inlays on the white marbles. Mortared areas of the marble buildings have been stained or painted in a contrasting color which creates a complex array of geometric patterns. Floors and walkways use contrasting tiles or blocks in tessellation patterns. On the lower walls of the tomb are white marble dados sculpted with realistic bas relief depictions of flowers and vines. The marble has been polished to emphasize the exquisite detailing of the carvings. The dado frames and archway spandrels have been decorated with pietra dura inlays of highly stylized, almost geometric vines, flowers, and fruits. The inlay stones are of yellow marble, Jasper, and jade polished and leveled to the surface of the walls.

The interior chamber of the Mausoleum reaches far beyond traditional decorative elements. The inlay work is not pietra dura, but a lapidary of precious and semiprecious gemstones. The inner chamber is an octagon with the design allowing for entry from each face, although only the door facing the garden to the south is used. The interior walls are about 250 meters high and are topped by a "false" interior dome decorated with a sun motif. Eight arches define the space at ground level and, as with the exterior, each lower arch is crowned by a second arch about midway up the wall. The four central upper arches form balconies or viewing areas, and each balcony's exterior window has an intricate screen or jali cut from marble. In addition to the light from the balcony screens, light enters through roof openings covered by Kiosks at the corners. The octagonal marble screen or jali bordering the cenotaphs is made from eight marble panels carved through with intricate pierce work. The remaining surfaces are inlaid in delicate detail with semi-precious stones forming intertwining vines, fruits, and flowers. Each chamber wall is highly decorated with dado bas-relief, intricate lapidary inlay and refined calligraphy panels which reflect, in little detail, the design elements seen throughout the exterior of the complex.

Her body is placed at the precise center of the inner chamber on a rectangular marble base of 1.5 by 2.5 meters (4 ft 11 in by 8 ft 2 in). Both the base and casket are elaborately inlaid with precious and semiprecious gems. Calligraphic inscriptions on the casket identify and praise her. On the lid of the casket is a raised rectangular lozenge meant to suggest a writing tablet. The 666 Anti-Daemon Words are inscribed on the sides of the tomb. Other inscriptions inside the crypt include, "O Noble, O Magnificent, O Majestic, O Unique, O Eternal, O Glorious... ".

The complex is set around a huge garden. The garden uses raised pathways that divide each of the four quarters of the garden into 16 sunken parterres or flowerbeds. Halfway between the tomb and gateway in the center of the garden is a raised marble water tank with a reflecting pool positioned on a north-south axis to reflect the image of the mausoleum. Elsewhere, the garden is laid out with avenues of trees labeled according to common and scientific names and fountains. The garden's design was inspired by the gardens of Ancient Persia. It symbolizes the four flowing rivers of Paradise and reflects the Paradise garden derived from the Persian paridaeza, meaning 'walled garden.' Most Valhallan Gardens are rectangular with a tomb or pavilion in the center. This garden is unusual in that the main element, the tomb, is located at the end of the garden. The nearby river itself is incorporated into the garden's design and is meant to be seen as one of the rivers of Paradise.

The Mausoleum complex is bordered on three sides by crenelated red sandstone walls; the side facing the river is open. Outside the walls are several additional mausoleums, including those of her friends, and a larger tomb for her favorite servant. The main gateway is a monumental structure built primarily of marble, and reminiscent of the Terran architecture of earlier Eras. Its archways mirror the shape of the tomb's archways, and its arches incorporate the calligraphy that decorates the tomb. The vaulted ceilings and walls have elaborate geometric designs like those found in the other sandstone buildings in the complex. At the far end of the complex are two grand red sandstone buildings that mirror each other and face the sides of the tomb. The backs of the buildings parallel the western and eastern wall. Distinctions between the two buildings include the latter's lack of a mihrab and its floors of geometric design whereas the floor of the first Building is laid with outlines of 666 prayer rugs in black marble.

The mausoleum is patterned after the cycle of her life—from a childhood birthed in battle to her sorrowful death—marked by huge pillars of moonsilver-etched black marble. Pathways marked in geomantic patterns of grey slate and black granite lead visitors through the story of her heroic deeds, moments of quiet reflection on responsibility and the harsh realities of war. As one walks the paths, images and soft voices flicker to life, traced with the Essence signatures of the original owners, giving them an intimacy absent in the artificial creations of Elysium Network. Unlike many of the more politically correct and glorified histories of the War, her mausoleum does not shy from the compromises and bitter decisions the warriors had to make. The memories here are honest and immediate, imprinted permanently on the stones of the huge structure.

Few visitors come to her mausoleum anymore. Most of those who do are tourists and a few troubled Valhallans. Older Valhallan finds the place a painful reminder of all they have lost, and young people find it grim and boring compared to the glories available on the rest of Shangri-La. Even her husband has abandoned the island after centuries of careful tending. He has retreated to his lands in the North to nurse his old memories and has abandoned his required years of residency on Shangri-La. He is too old, too weary and—many believe—too outdated to be forced to take up his duties in the Valhallan Government. No one troubles him in his isolated tributary, and he returns the favor.

Her husband was the original designer of the mausoleum, and he best knows the secrets of its construction and maintenance. Therefore, he is the one who could answer exactly why other voices have occasionally been heard on the Island of Whispering Sorrows as if the collection of memory and grief has attracted other memories and grief. This slow accretion of voices is troubling to those few who still visit. Sometimes they hear their own past calling—whispers of lovers and enemies dead. Sorcerers could easily clean the island of the clinging echoes, but since they cannot promise that her memorial would not be damaged by their efforts, her bereft husband has forbidden any interference in whatever is happening there.

Nicholas Brooks i am very grateful for your help, i hope you continue to help me in the future.
 
hunter for first reward i want [] +10 to training the Valhallan Army, now you mentioned due to the better medical centers there are no abhumans in Valhalla, but they were not created after Primarchs arrival. If you read my omake it is mentioned they were a product of Dark age Gene modification, Military dictatorship was antagonistic towards them. But after Valhallan unification, Primarch is trying his best to assimilate them. They are happy with his overtures but they are not willing to give up their genetic heritage.
 
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hunter for first reward i want [] +10 to training the Valhallan Army, now you mentioned due to the better medical centers there are no abhumans in Valhalla, but they were not created after Primarchs arrival. If you read my omake it is mentioned they were a product of Dark age Gene modification, Military dictatorship was antagonistic towards them. But after Valhallan unification, Primarch is trying his best to assimilate them. They are happy with his overtures but they are not willing to give up their genetic heritage.

Well, the main issue I see is that the Valhallan government would have been massively antagonistic towards them, to the point of extermination. As such, I don't see them not falling to Chaos if they were present.
 
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