Ancient one yeah but winning may not be in the numbers. It is a god like being that is very powerful. Ynead would loose it did not get the power boost from all the eldar souls. The apocalypse wolf would wipe out all life in the galaxy.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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for the first two probably not. for the third yes but then it would eat the galaxy.
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Ancient One probably has an incredibly low, like <1%, chance of actually killing the Destroyer in a fight even with support. Forcing the Destroyer to focus on the AO until allied forces can retreat, or even forcing the Destroyer to retreat, are more likely, but still low. And the cost of putting the AO against the Destroyer is the high probability that the AO dies, costing Team Sanity its best anti-warp hero.
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Doomed Wombat
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Sorta, he's got single digits vs the dragon or the avatar, and they're stronger than the destroyer...
But, that means chances are still aweful.
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The current idea I was thinking of was if we could improve the anti-Destroyer/Necron weapons that Secundus had access to, whether by making them a bit cheaper, more reliable, more effective, or whatever, then that small improvement might actually be really helpful on the enormous scale of a huge war being fought across hundreds of sectors.
Doomed Wombat
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Yep, but nothing that can actually affect the destroyer.
Since we have no anti destroyer weapons, sans their broke blackstone.
We could get Ridicully to go and look at the black stone fortress and see if he can figure something out. Or we can ask the people of Avernus or Avernus itself if it can repair the black stone fortress.
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Well we got permission to examine it from them as long as we share the findings, so that works out.
Yeah getting it fixed works out for everyone. I see no problem at all helping them. The only thing I can see is Abbadon trying to steal it if it gets fixed.
Doomed Wombat
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Tis already on the docket, but if Durin's implications are any indicator asking avernus is a non starter.
Apparently one of the biggest boosts we can get is giving Avernus the ability to act overtly like that.
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Unless the main weapon of the fortress can be repaired or copied there are very few things we can do to help the fight. Our new development does give better weapons to be used in the fight but the Destroyer itself is still an insurmountable problem.
Doomed Wombat
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We're basically at the hoping the necrons drop a bomb on it stage.
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Oh yeah, I get that. Vulkan would probably need to make a dedicated weapon, or perhaps the Eldar would need some of Vaul's craftsmen to create something special. I was more focused on what Tranth could do to make regular weapons more effective against the Destroyer's forces, or on how to improve the war effort of Secundus in other ways, so that they can further slow the advance of the Destroyer's forces, and ideally stop it.
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Can't rely on them unfortunately they are too broken to be of use any time soon and by the time they are ready, the Sane powers will have been weakened way too much. Unless the collection has a bunch of stuff that can be used against the Destroyer I don't see much chance of saving them.
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Well doing the econ techs is probably the biggest help there, but even then I doubt Vulkan or Vaul have the time to make something effective.
Nah not broken isn't the problem, they've come out the war with only about 30% casualties, likely fewer once they've reconstituted, to say nothing of the fact they have anti C'tan weapons. Potentially hundreds of them. Their big problem is the destroyer's got its Virus going.
At the moment though the necrons are pretty much the strongest force in the galaxy, the problem is they're a complete wild card.
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Yeah, I think you're probably right, although the techbase we have is so patchy that there are probably lots of useful stuff we could come up with in other areas, particularly using our theorems.
What I'm really hoping for though is that Ridcully can successfully divine the Necrontyr Honour Protocols. That could prove to be enormously useful, depending on how much of a dick the Silent King and co. decide to be, and would help the Forces of Sanity deal with the Destroyer, the Void Dragon, the Deceiver, and Chaos.
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Ideally we'd find a way to lure both rampant ctan and the avatar to averneus, let the wolf go, and leave.
In this less ideal situation does anyone think we should send some troops to fight in the destroyer war- if only to get bloodied against a new and interesting foe. I think the vanagrians would be interested too and we can spare ground pounders.
In this less ideal situation does anyone think we should send some troops to fight in the destroyer war- if only to get bloodied against a new and interesting foe. I think the vanagrians would be interested too and we can spare ground pounders.
That is a horrible plan since the wolf would kill everything in the galaxy. It's like setting a nuclear device to kill a wild animal. Also any troops we send would be I'll equipped since we are species for anti chaos. Maybe some of the psykers but we have a low amount of hero and alpha's who could make a difference. Rotbart actually would be the biggest help.
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Honestly the "Everyone out the galaxy! ...PULL THE SWITCH!" plan is probably more likely to succeed than actually trying to fight, but runs into the problem of having to run to another galaxy.
Doomed Wombat
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Also the fact that quite a few people refuse to leave.
The eldar for example feel religiously obligated to fix this mess...
The eldar for example feel religiously obligated to fix this mess...
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the Kork likely have weaponry meant for fighting a Ctan and the Eldar call the black stone fortresses talismans of Vaul so there is a chance they build new ones or at least repair the damaged ones
Or the wolf just keep killing and going to other galaxies.
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Our troops are the best human soldiers in the galaxy. Helguard fill a niche as demiastartes that is near otherwise unfilled. They'll be useful.
Or the ctan team up and kill it.
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I suspect if all the other sane forces agreed the Eldar would come too. It was one of their possible reactions to events, but they rolled trying to fix things.
Doomed Wombat
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Krork maybe, the eldar not so much.
They've forgotten a lot since the war in heaven.