The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

[Nurgle]

Ok so some things from discord
1 Tormod is in the .1 top percent of people his age on Avernus.
2 Ridicully is only about 95 percent sure thatLancre is not corrupt or a trap
3 one divination is enough to divine there location and see if they are corrupt.
4 the eldar will do a glance when they pick them up To see if they are corrupt
5 Rotbart thinks they can be a asset but it's to good to be true.

 

[Ptolemy]

Ok so some things from discord
1 Tormod is in the .1 top percent of people his age on Avernus.
2 Ridicully is only about 95 percent sure thatLancre is not corrupt or a trap
3 one divination is enough to divine there location and see if they are corrupt.
4 the eldar will do a glance when they pick them up To see if they are corrupt
5 Rotbart thinks they can be a asset but it's to good to be true.

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Good to know - guess we've got something other than the Civil War and Chaos Ritual to divine next turn. Hopefully Rotbart is just being paranoid, as Lancre would be really useful, what with the Archaeotech, Primaris and Battle Psykers, and the Paragon Telepath.

 

[Nurgle]

Good to know - guess we've got something other than the Civil War and Chaos Ritual to divine next turn. Hopefully Rotbart is just being paranoid, as Lancre would be really useful, what with the Archaeotech, Primaris and Battle Psykers, and the Paragon Telepath.

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Actually diving should get there location and see if they are corrupt. The problem is it does sound way to good to be true.

 

[Red Bovine]

Actually diving should get there location and see if they are corrupt. The problem is it does sound way to good to be true.

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This is hilarious coming from the guy who is part of the polity that not only has the most advanced DAoT around that they found on whole labs and even the most intact STC around but has access to an Old Ones lab letting them gain access to advanced psychic knowledge more advanced than most other places not counting the Eldar, had the last Saint, some of the best warriors in the galaxy, the greatest human Seer in history all while still being sane and even having a whole planet where psykers are actually accepted by most of the population due to said psykers tending to make up a significant part of the population.

IIRC there have been times where other people thought that the Trust seemed too good to be true.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

IIRC there have been times where other people thought that the Trust seemed too good to be true.

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Looks at the Vangrian Guard when they first arrived.

And the Dragon's Nest.

And the big three human polities.

To say the least those in glass houses should not throw bears in this instance.

 

[Nurgle]

Yeah but it is understandable since no one has really "corrupt" a demon before. I am going to throw up a updated version of my plan after my morning meeting. Really the demons are the biggest problem.

 

[Dragon_352]

I'm kinda concerned that, as a paragon telepath, whats-her-name might corrupt our people in a way that we don't learn about. She could turn out to be pretty good at preventing people from seeing her fallen nature with her telepathy by basically re-writing what they see/remember depending on her paragon trait's specialty. ....once again I propose we put the BC crown on at least her at SOME point. (although I suppose the true threat might be one of her followers....I could see tzeetch pulling something like that but still seems unlikely)

as long as we catch her corruption, her being chaotic is really not THAT bad of a event as we could beat her easily (see below).

and thats with her powers as they are known to us........ but what about when she has chaos blessings....?

(BTW: I would think that durin's rule that omakes can't be bad would force the results to at least be ambiguously good/bad, so if she IS corrupted, it does make me wonder how/why the omake resulted in a bad thing happening
(not her getting corrupted I mean, but that we get visited by a corrupted paragon and her people/fleet. although it woulden't be THAT bad unless we are not smart about testing her as I recall that her fleet is probably not that big and ONE paragon is not that powerful even if a good one as long as we prevent her from infiltrating us)

 

[sabreFather]

Why would you throw a BEAR of all things!? That's how you attract Druggie Loggers! You do not want their attention!

 

[Ptolemy]

I'm kinda concerned that, as a paragon telepath, whats-her-name might corrupt our people in a way that we don't learn about. She could turn out to be pretty good at preventing people from seeing her fallen nature with her telepathy by basically re-writing what they see/remember depending on her paragon trait's specialty. ....once again I propose we put the BC crown on at least her at SOME point. (although I suppose the true threat might be one of her followers....I could see tzeetch pulling something like that but still seems unlikely)

as long as we catch her corruption, her being chaotic is really not THAT bad of a event as we could beat her easily (see below).

and thats with her powers as they are known to us........ but what about when she has chaos blessings....?

(BTW: I would think that durin's rule that omakes can't be bad would force the results to at least be ambiguously good/bad, so if she IS corrupted, it does make me wonder how/why the omake resulted in a bad thing happening
(not her getting corrupted I mean, but that we get visited by a corrupted paragon and her people/fleet. although it woulden't be THAT bad unless we are not smart about testing her as I recall that her fleet is probably not that big and ONE paragon is not that powerful even if a good one as long as we prevent her from infiltrating us)

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Well, I think it was confirmed on discord that we can do a divination to see if Lancre is chaos corrupted or not, which ought to solve that problem. We can also follow it up by sticking some of the Black Crystal gear on the Paragon telepath as soon as she gets here.

 

[Dragon_352]

Well, I think it was confirmed on discord that we can do a divination to see if Lancre is chaos corrupted or not, which ought to solve that problem. We can also follow it up by sticking some of the Black Crystal gear on the Paragon telepath as soon as she gets here.

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I know rid's as a good amount of piety traits so is unlikely to be corrupted, but do we know if he has enough to be completely safe? chaos powered paragon telepath seems like it might(...?) be able to at least roll to corrupt rids.

although I'm not sure she'd even be able to realize he's there since one of his paragon traits lets him divine invisibly right? so she'd have to either roll to see him at a high DC and then roll to corrupt him remotely with her telepathy powers at a probably even higher DC (with all of his anti-chaos piety traits I think it might even be impossible) OR roll to auto-corrupt him with some kind of passive, chaos-memetic thing which doesn't care how you learned of the thing.......but I'm not sure that is even possible with rids.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

I know rid's as a good amount of piety traits so is unlikely to be corrupted, but do we know if he has enough to be completely safe? chaos powered paragon telepath seems like it might(...?) be able to at least roll to corrupt rids.

although I'm not sure she'd even be able to realize he's there since one of his paragon traits lets him divine invisibly right? so she'd have to either roll to see him at a high DC and then roll to corrupt him remotely with her telepathy powers at a probably even higher DC (with all of his anti-chaos piety traits I think it might even be impossible) OR roll to auto-corrupt him with some kind of passive, chaos-memetic thing which doesn't care how you learned of the thing.......but I'm not sure that is even possible with rids.

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Rids trait means that he no sells any corruption that rolls below his base roll and has a huge amount of resistance aside.

Yes, though Weatherwax might well be able to corrupt him should that roll go her way.

OOC We still have no reason to believe that she's been corrupted mind.

IC If she's been corrupted then it would have happened 400 years ago and in that case we better shoot Rids now since he's already made contact and is likely corrupted.

 

[invictus1829]

Rids trait means that he no sells any corruption that rolls below his base roll and has a huge amount of resistance aside.

Yes, though Weatherwax might well be able to corrupt him should that roll go her way.

OOC We still have no reason to believe that she's been corrupted mind.

IC If she's been corrupted then it would have happened 400 years ago and in that case we better shoot Rids now since he's already made contact and is likely corrupted.

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I doubt that it's possible that she corrupted Rids when they first made contact. IIRC Lin was still alive then and he would have cracked down on that.

 

[Nurgle]

[] Plan Nurgle T141

Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
Y3: Carniflower Investigation
SLOT B - Year 5
Y5: Expand (Desdes ) to Small Hive

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 1
Y1: Sound out (using minor eldar favor to bring Lancre here)
If they agree Year 2 action
Y2: Ask for Inquisitional, really anyone that can be spared to help going over the crew of the Lancre when they arrive.
Y3: Use minor favor to bring Lancre here
Y4: Ask for the people of Averus to help check out the Lancre and company for corruption
If they don't
Y2: Sound Out Crimson crusaders using Star fort Atlas Gift or Avernus as a base of operation.
Y3: Ear to ground ( find out what else is going to be discussed)
Y4: Talk to the people of Averus about forming a allaince to coordinate with each other when Chaos or demons attack Avernus
Diplomacy may change depending on update and discussion .

Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
Y1-5: Greater Psyker Hunting
SLOT B - Year 2
Y2-5: Counter - Intelligence

Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 2 (Ridcully)
If Council agrees
Y2: Greater Divination (Lancre fleet still around, are they corrupted. and Fleet's Location )
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
Y3: Greater Divination ( Arhra Location)
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
Y4: Primal Warp
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
If they Don't
Y2: Greater Divination (Arhra Location)
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
Y3: Greater Divination ( Threats to the Trust)
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
Y4: Primal Warp
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Free Divination
( What is causing the curses for the Blood angels and successor chapter)
I really want to find out what is going on with Sanguinus. but since people have argued before I am compromising waht I want and doing it on the free diviantion. There is alot of Narrative wieght with Sanguinius being brought back to life. He knew is was going to die from a vision, Knorad told him he was going to die, and the Empereor also saw he was going to die. So he willing sacraficed himself so others may live. I believe his soul is captured and the curses are a result of chaos trying to corrupt him.


SLOT B - Year 3 ( Aria)
Y3: Mentor Alpha
Y4 Create Psyker Order ( Psyker Order of Construction)
doing these so we can have Administration do expansions from now on

Personal
SLOT A - Year 5
Y5: Advanced Power Armour: Helguard Shocktrooper Regiments
SLOT B year 1
Y1: Gubernatorial Succession: Sound Out ( Military)
Y2: Gubernatorial Succession: Sound Out ( Knights of Avernus)
Y3: Attend High Council Meeting
Y4: Gubernatorial Succession: Sound Out ( Avernus Administratum)
Y5: Ask Tormod if he would consider Joining the military. ( Start off asking him about his career choices. than ask him if he would consider joining the Military because he would be great at it and we will need people who can see what needs to be done and do it. He has some talent and well the galaxy is going to spend the next century getting actually worse. It is not a order or anything We can get any combat warrior or soldier, but great officer are rarer than you would think. )

Tormod is in the .1 Top precentil of people his age and is literal has better military stats than most of our Marshalls and a third of the governors. We need to sound out the knights to see if they wil follow the next governor even if he is not a Rotbart. Since they are pledge to the house of Rotbart.
As always have a good reason if you want me to change something. Plan will change depending on discussion.

 

[random_npc]

artifact Explores Companion. ( pen 13, times 3 damage, on first round of combat double pen and damage, double bonuses for taking advantage of foes weaknesses)
this ancient rifle is nearly unrecognizable as something of human make. strange psychic components having replaced almost every aspect over its long long life. according to the lizardmen it once belonged to an ancient human explorer, one who according to legend went on to discover the entirety of the Black Crystal set. Over its long time in their hands parts wore out and where replaced with psychic materials that where as close to the original component as possible. the weapon is capable of building a devastating initial shot, as well as customizing the proprieties of is shot to a staggering degree, able to fire projectiles of nearly any materiel or energy type known to the trust. Despite the weapons strange appearance and proprieties, dalv sept seems to have adapted to its use surprisingly quickly.

@Durin oh hey look, the lizardmen had a random DaOT gun lying around. i'm sure it has nothing to do with anyone we know

 

[sabreFather]

@Nurgle Leave Tormod alone! We already had to deal with us trying to interfere with his future! How about instead offer him tutoring again, just witha good write up to minimize problems from a roll of 1. Even if he rejects it we can just follow with regular spend time actions. Leave it up to him what he wants, and otherwise mend the rift with poor precious Grand Son.

 

[Dynamesmouse]

Hey guys, you know that Astartes only air superiority fighter?

Let's give and maintain one for the Ancient One

 

[Dragon_352]

Hey guys, you know that Astartes only air superiority fighter?

Let's give and maintain one for the Ancient One

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I'm not sure it would do anything for him.

I feel like the best thing to give him would be whatever vehicle drives/fly's the fastest which MIGHT be that fighter your talking about....but I don't know.

I feel like if we want to do a personal favor like that we should make a custom vehicle for him that has built-in stealth and wards against detection. make it so that the next time we get an invasion he can go cross-continental however-many-times faster and fly in and use a built in drop pod to engage on TOP of his target.

 

[sabreFather]

Not likely a good choice. Not necessarily because of speed but because he has neither the training nor small size to use it. Also Ad Mech would flip its shit. Need to develop a naval rail gun to launch him instead. Or find a wormhole making creature.

 

[Dragon_352]

Not likely a good choice. Not necessarily because of speed but because he has neither the training nor small size to use it. Also Ad Mech would flip its shit. Need to develop a naval rail gun to launch him instead. Or find a wormhole making creature.

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the creature would have to be totally non-warp based as AO completely no-sells all warp-stuff on his body.

the rail gun might actually work tho since some of his traits makes him impossably strong as well. (he would make a good khornite warrior honestly....good thing he's just as immune to khornite corruption as the others )

 

[random_npc]

Hey guys, you know that Astartes only air superiority fighter?

Let's give and maintain one for the Ancient One

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There is a serious question on if it would be faster than him sprinting. Personally I think the best method for him to get around would be some kind of cargo railgun. Ideally something that can go suborbital to get him anywhere on the planet fast.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

I doubt that it's possible that she corrupted Rids when they first made contact. IIRC Lin was still alive then and he would have cracked down on that.

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Indeed, it was after the third incursion, he'd have been likely lit on fire while on the same planet if she was corrupted and if she successfully did that to an honoured demon, odds are nothing's corrupting her after.

There is a serious question on if it would be faster than him sprinting. Personally I think the best method for him to get around would be some kind of cargo railgun. Ideally something that can go suborbital to get him anywhere on the planet fast.

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Honestly, cargo railgun seems less effective than just an out and out macro cannon.

But, I think the AO's the only example of a trait working so well its inconvenient, admittedly for a pretty fantastic upside.

 

[Dynamesmouse]

He doesn't need to fly it, just dangle a chain off of it while an Astartes pilots it. AO can let go of the chain when he needs to.

Or just stand on top of the fighter, I'm sure the guy has high balance.

 

[Dragon_352]

He doesn't need to fly it, just dangle a chain off of it while an Astartes pilots it. AO can let go of the chain when he needs to.

Or just stand on top of the fighter, I'm sure the guy has high balance.

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cas the unstable air resitance of him dangling the back end with the engine-flames hitting in the face woulden't both distablize the craft and be unconfortable for him (obviously not dangerous....but being blinded/deafened is not confortable non-the-less)

 

[Doomed Wombat]

cas the unstable air resitance of him dangling the back end with the engine-flames hitting in the face woulden't both distablize the craft and be unconfortable for him (obviously not dangerous....but being blinded/deafened is not confortable non-the-less)

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I very much doubt that the entity that can head butt the weapons of Exalted Greater demons and not take a scratch would be in any way inconvenienced or pained by significant airspeed especially when he's fast enough that there's a genuine debate about whether or not our fastest aircraft are as fast as he is when just running.

 

[Dynamesmouse]

cas the unstable air resitance of him dangling the back end with the engine-flames hitting in the face woulden't both distablize the craft and be unconfortable for him (obviously not dangerous....but being blinded/deafened is not confortable non-the-less)

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We are unironically talking about shooting a lizard out of a macro-cannon, AO, the sixty five million year old War in Heaven Veteran. He can handle a little bit of mild discomfort. He's probably the Arxhetype of The Veteran.