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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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@Enjou things we can divine
1 Valdor the Emperor gave him a task after the Heresy and no one know what it was. He is also one of the best human fighters ever up thier with the primarchs
2 what happen to the Custodies and Emperor body. Both would be huge finds. Imagine trueborn Grey Knights.
3 what happen to the assassins guilds. Advance human tech and institutional knowledge of some of the best human assassins to ever exist.
4 location of a STC or other advance human tech in the galaxy.
5 what the silent king is doing and how the war in the void went.

These is 5 things I though we could divine off the top of my head.
 
Nurgle said:
4 location of a STC or other advance human tech in the galaxy.
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Pretty sure Durin's shot down this one enough times that he doesn't need to look at his keyboard to type it anymore :).

Still yeah the rest of those are options, I'd add the origins of the Tau, Old One/Eldar relics, Anaris, Eldar God shards, the Specifications of Ahra's ritual and Fenris to the list.
 
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Doomed Wombat said:
Pretty sure Durin's shot down this one enough times that he doesn't need to look at his keyboard to type it anymore :).

Still yeah the rest of those are options, I'd add the origins of the Tau, Old One/Eldar relics, Anaris, Eldar God shards, the Specifications of Ahra's ritual and Fenris to the list.
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Which is why I advocated the free divination to be Eldar's choice.
 
My preference is we spend time with Signe or Tranth. Tranth mostly. get that learning score up.
 
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@Enjou things we can divine
1 Valdor the Emperor gave him a task after the Heresy and no one know what it was. He is also one of the best human fighters ever up thier with the primarchs
2 what happen to the Custodies and Emperor body. Both would be huge finds. Imagine trueborn Grey Knights.
3 what happen to the assassins guilds. Advance human tech and institutional knowledge of some of the best human assassins to ever exist.
4 location of a STC or other advance human tech in the galaxy.
5 what the silent king is doing and how the war in the void went.

These is 5 things I though we could divine off the top of my head.
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Pretty sure that the body was on terra along with all the Custodes when Terra was consumed so pretty sure those are lost due to the abomination claiming them. Unless we count the Custodes that maybe that Necron collector has.

For divination I'm going to suggest the Tau since they are a suspected patsy of the Deceiver and they are I think one of the few major polities we haven't done yet.
 
Red Bovine said:
Pretty sure that the body was on terra along with all the Custodes when Terra was consumed so pretty sure those are lost due to the abomination claiming them. Unless we count the Custodes that maybe that Necron collector has.
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If the Emperor was able to send out messages to several people across the galaxy in order to prepare for his Death than he definitely should had been able to tell the people right next to him and who actually knew him something about oncoming disaster. Sure the Custodes could had easily all died to endless tides of Angyls but they also could had escaped with the Emperors body someway or another.
 
NotteBoy97 said:
If the Emperor was able to send out messages to several people across the galaxy in order to prepare for his Death than he definitely should had been able to tell the people right next to him and who actually knew him something about oncoming disaster. Sure the Custodes could had easily all died to endless tides of Angyls but they also could had escaped with the Emperors body someway or another.
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Problem is that they really would not have had time since the moment they lifted Emps off the throne Terra would haev been instantly swarmed with Daemon and the Abomination being born right before would have made it even more unlikely.
 
Red Bovine said:
Problem is that they really would not have had time since the moment they lifted Emps off the throne Terra would have been instantly swarmed with Daemon and the Abomination being born right before would have made it even more unlikely.
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I think it was a few hours between the Emperor's death and the Abomination's birth and the warp storm erupting on Terra.
 
Adventwolf said:
I think it was a few hours between the Emperor's death and the Abomination's birth and the warp storm erupting on Terra.
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Problem is that there were likely a lot of valuable things on Terra that would have likely taken hours to remove safely which they couldn't do if they took the Emperor off too soon. Maybe a few Custodes made it with maybe a limb or two from the Emperors body but I doubt that they have the entire body and can see someone staying behind to destroy it once the Emperor died.
 
Red Bovine said:
Problem is that there were likely a lot of valuable things on Terra that would have likely taken hours to remove safely which they couldn't do if they took the Emperor off too soon. Maybe a few Custodes made it with maybe a limb or two from the Emperors body but I doubt that they have the entire body and can see someone staying behind to destroy it once the Emperor died.
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I'm not saying the Emperor's body was removed in fact I'm sure they would have left it behind because he would have told them he would be reborn eventually. The body at that point was worthless they may have even just destroyed it. I am saying they had enough time to leave so they wouldn't have died fighting aside from those left behind to deal with the remaining issues.
 
I've actually had this question for a long time I don't know if it's been answered,but what happened to the Titan the moon.
 
out of curiosity:

@Durin

(1): whats the biggest boom we could make? (the smallest package of the highest energy dense bomb we have)
(2): how expensive is that? (I assume melta-planet crackers maybe?)
 
Enjou said:
Posting muh plan. A few minutes early, but I need to drive to work.

[X] Plan Enjou T124

Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Light Power Weapons
SLOT B - Year 5
-Y5: Readiness Training

Void Command
SLOT A - Year 4
-Y4: Readiness Training: Fleet
-Y5: Readiness Training: Fleet
SLOT B - Year 4
-Y4: Implement (Navigator's Eyepiece): Naval

Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Technological Improvements: (Other)

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Syr's Suitors
-Y4: Siren Trade (Tau tech for runes)
-Y5: Request Information (Grey Knights - Secret Techniques for future penguin trade)

Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-2: Counter-Intelligence
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1 AND 2
-Y3-5: Greater Psyker Hunting
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-5: Greater Psyker Hunting

AdMech
SLOT A - Year 4 (Free)
-Y4: Expand Military Forces: Mechanicus

Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Identifying Chaos by Saint Lin
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Identifying Chaos by Saint Lin

Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 3 (Ridcully)
-Y3: Nudging Ironbusta (Amir'ka)
-Y4: Nudging Ironbusta (Amir'ka)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
-Y5: Nudging Ironbusta (Amir'ka)
SLOT B - Year 5: (Aria)
-Y5: Ward Vault (Dis)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT C - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)

Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Knowing Avernus (QM's Choice)
-Y2: Spend Time With (Rosalinda)
-Y3: Spend Time With (Rosalinda)
-Y4: Spend Time With (Jane)
-Y5: Spend Time With (Jane)
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@Enjou

Quick issue on the Lin action:
At base -60 success chance, the odds of the Nature of Chaos action succeeding is 43% with zero DDs, 63% with one, and 83% with two. Given those numbers the odds of a crit from a roll other than 100 is zero regardless of the DDs, and the second one ties up 10 Lin action-years for a very minimal boost to success chances. I would strongly suggest doing a a different second action offset a year instead for a DD on that action—either the nature of Gork and Mork, or info on created gods.
 
Reynal said:
@Enjou

Quick issue on the Lin action:
At base -60 success chance, the odds of the Nature of Chaos action succeeding is 43% with zero DDs, 63% with one, and 83% with two. Given those numbers the odds of a crit from a roll other than 100 is zero regardless of the DDs, and the second one ties up 10 Lin action-years for a very minimal boost to success chances. I would strongly suggest doing a a different second action offset a year instead for a DD on that action—either the nature of Gork and Mork, or info on created gods.
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Assuming your mathematics is correct, there is in fact 7% Critical and 1% Greater Critical without reroll and 27.46%/1.99% after with 2 DDs.
 
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Reynal said:
@Enjou

Quick issue on the Lin action:
At base -60 success chance, the odds of the Nature of Chaos action succeeding is 43% with zero DDs, 63% with one, and 83% with two. Given those numbers the odds of a crit from a roll other than 100 is zero regardless of the DDs, and the second one ties up 10 Lin action-years for a very minimal boost to success chances. I would strongly suggest doing a a different second action offset a year instead for a DD on that action—either the nature of Gork and Mork, or info on created gods.
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If people want, I don't mind taking a risk of failure and doing a different second action. I'm somewhat doubting this is a project we can crit on given how big the bonus is for a regular success, I just was trying to ensure it would succeed. (and remember folks, there are rolled actions that can just fail or succeed with no potential for a crit)

We've still got a planet with Heavy taint that needs cleansing, as well as some god actions that need doing.

So ya'll let me know what you guys think, and I'll decide based on what the people want.
 
Enjou said:
If people want, I don't mind taking a risk of failure and doing a different second action. I'm somewhat doubting this is a project we can crit on given how big the bonus is for a regular success, I just was trying to ensure it would succeed. (and remember folks, there are rolled actions that can just fail or succeed with no potential for a crit)

We've still got a planet with Heavy taint that needs cleansing, as well as some god actions that need doing.

So ya'll let me know what you guys think, and I'll decide based on what the people want.
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Shard's math in the post above checks out so a crit is possible with two double downs, but it's only a non-trivial chance with the reroll too.

Odds are very good that if we fail we can retake the action and have it take less time, so from an action economy standpoint the single double down is clearly superior. That said, outside of the Primordial Sea action this is probably the single most important action Lin's going to be doing, so accepting some inefficiency to do it better/more certainly is understandable.

Overall I'd prefer to pass on the second DD unless it looks like we've got some other bonuses, as I view ten years on Lin actions as being a bit more valuable than a small chance of a crit here.
 
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