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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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There's also the matter that we don't really need to invest too much in a land invasion - all we really need to do is destroy their orbital defenses and industry, after which they're effectively contained and we can just bombard their cities from orbit. While 11k Escorts of their fleet escaped this battle, many of those won't be from Valinor since they were part of the Crusade Fleet, and will head home instead, and many of their own remaining ones may well just bail on Valinor due to seeing the writing on the wall. They're completely lacking in capital ships of all sizes and there's no way they can rebuild enough in time for a counterattack. So the biggest threat to an invasion is the orbital defenses, but many of our weapons simply outrange them which means we can engage outside of the range at which they can fight back.
Once everything in orbit is mopped up, we can just bombard their cities from orbit at our leisure until they're smoldering wreckage.
- Location
- Berkeley
I mean, I like the idea, but I'm also pretty sure this falls under the 'you can't trivialize an entire invasion with orbital bombardment' rule. Make it a LOT easier, sure, but I'm willing to bet that there will be significant holdouts or special rituals that they can pull out to protect from/repair the orbital stuff.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
pretty much anything
- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
Man the hate of people to chaos is probably so ridiculous (well chaos deserved it) that I can see why Malice attack even chaos (more than the normal back and front stabbing).
Almost cart black to avernites? man, dwarf (fortress) FUN incoming ^^.
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Almost cart black to avernites? man, dwarf (fortress) FUN incoming ^^.
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[X] Plan Ere We Go!
Using orbital bombardment as our primary weapon would probably make the entire thing take significantly longer - we know you can destroy cities that way, as we've done it before with cities of our own that fell during the daemonic incursion. But at the same time, that may be worth it since the planets themselves have a lot of Chaos mojo on them, and landing troops for a siege risks corrupting them at a time when we're still trying to have our armies recover from two simultaneous wars.
Using orbital bombardment as our primary weapon would probably make the entire thing take significantly longer - we know you can destroy cities that way, as we've done it before with cities of our own that fell during the daemonic incursion. But at the same time, that may be worth it since the planets themselves have a lot of Chaos mojo on them, and landing troops for a siege risks corrupting them at a time when we're still trying to have our armies recover from two simultaneous wars.
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- Location
- The Void
[X] Plan Ere We Go!
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
No. Durin accidentally multiplied our Strike Craft Damage by 0. This massively reduced our effectiveness against Ork Escorts. To compensate for this error, Syr was guaranteed survival along with us being able to salvage many more ships.
EDIT: BY THE EMPEROR, NURGLE HAS TOUCHED ME AGAIN! THE PAIN, IT COURSES THROUGH MY EVERYTHING IT HURTS I AM SHAKING MAKE IT STOPMAKEITSTOPMAKEITSTOP I CAN FEEL HIS TOUCH EATING MY INSIDES WHICH ARE NOW MY OUTSIDES
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Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
- Location
- Fólkvangr
Ahh
I wanted to make an omake where she was going to be home but pretty pissed that she lost her ship. Which I would then queue her anger and resentment to be focused to become her studying up on more Naval matters in order to settle the score with the Orks at a later point.
I wanted to make an omake where she was going to be home but pretty pissed that she lost her ship. Which I would then queue her anger and resentment to be focused to become her studying up on more Naval matters in order to settle the score with the Orks at a later point.
- Location
- Poland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I see you are blessed by our indulgent father!
Praise be unto him!
Every time you let out your inner miasma, in a shout from both ends!
For those sounds are hymns for him!
Every moment you go on without the foul cleansing of abominable waters!
For those smells are the most flattering of his perfumes!
Every day you let your home grow in with remains of your life!
For those sights are the most similar to gardens our Papa cultivates!
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- Location
- not telling
Based on the last few Navel fights we've had our Capital ships are more numerous and far superior to any we face with many more Battleships, Super-Caps, and even Cruisers. It the Escort swarms and low anti-escort focus we have that reams us. After all when their escorts outnumber ours by 30 to 1 they can afford to loss at a 10 or more to 1 exchange rate to overwhelm our Escort screens. Sarnow's Heavy Cruiser-Escort Cruiser centered fleet would on a one to one bases do much better than a Medium Cruiser -Escort fleet in a slug fest but doesn't solve our Escort swarm problem. What we need is a higher number of Escorts and Light Cruisers or Cheap Cruisers to hunt and destroy the Escort Swarms while the Heavy Cruisers plow into the enemy's Capitals and our Grand Cruisers, Battleships, and Flagship destroy the key ships the enemy has.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
I think our attack craft wasn't doing damage due to a spreadsheet error. Durin told us that is what made the Ork Escorts so strong, but I don't know if that error also applied to the Abominable Crusade.
- Location
- Estonia
Escort cruisers in similar numbers as replacements in current number of escorts(before fight) wouldnt help alot ? With heavys being the backbone of the fleet since we are armored/planetary assault spec fleet? And maybe skip grand cruisers for battleships aswell or not new ones atleast with some regular cruisers ofcourse but not the main "capital" class .
We can afford a truly horrific fleet even with one of our army upgrades/expansion costs btw and i mean horrific like 10x times the current fleet just upkeep wise .
We can afford a truly horrific fleet even with one of our army upgrades/expansion costs btw and i mean horrific like 10x times the current fleet just upkeep wise .
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- Location
- Leicester UK
We cannot, however, crew such a fleet which is our main bottleneck when it comes to fleet size.
- Location
- Leicester UK
Total population is irrelevant, we cannot just assign people to crew ships, its not that simple, they have to be trained in the proper facilities, which have a limited capacity and can only be staffed by people who have been properly trained.
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- Location
- Leicester UK
Can we do that now? Or anytime soon? Because there was no option for such last turn and we have taken significant void casualties recently so we are not going to have an excess of trained void crew anytime soon what with rebuilding our fleet.
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Valinor Quest: Crusade Post Mortem
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Crusade Post Mortem
In Valinor Quest..
Thorin: *Update*
AbsolutelyNotGood: What the fuck.
Encore: I guess the invasion is kaput. @Thorin any chance of a post-mortem of why we failed so hard?
Thorin:
also invading a warp-touched chaos-hating deathworld is a terrible idea
and you forgot they had far better tech than you
it was also impossible their Saint would not have murderous defences, otherwise he would have died long ago
Encore:
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Thorin:
Andrew011:
Thorin:
Fragment:
Thorin:
EldritchHanon:
entropy: What the hell just happened. I thought they only had like, a million of those elite Heltrooper things??
Thorin:
also as a note all survivors will become heroes after this, omakes will improve their odds
Thorin: *Update*
AbsolutelyNotGood: What the fuck.
Encore: I guess the invasion is kaput. @Thorin any chance of a post-mortem of why we failed so hard?
Thorin:
basically they had all your plans, remember they have a powerful seerEncore said:
also invading a warp-touched chaos-hating deathworld is a terrible idea
and you forgot they had far better tech than you
it was also impossible their Saint would not have murderous defences, otherwise he would have died long ago
Encore:
Didn't their seer try and fail to scry our plans?Thorin said:
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Thorin said:
Thorin:
no, he rolled a greater critical and pretended to failEncore said:
Andrew011:
Fucking hell. The same one that did the first ambush of our fleet when we raided them?Thorin said:
Thorin:
yesAndrew011 said:
Fragment:
So they actually had an Eldar Farseer helping them out the entire time? I guess that explains a lot.Thorin said:
Thorin:
no the Elddar intervened separately, remember Daemon Princes are scaryFragment said:
EldritchHanon:
Wait what the fuck? Their Seer isn't an Eldar???Thorin said:
entropy: What the hell just happened. I thought they only had like, a million of those elite Heltrooper things??
Thorin:
noEldritchHanon said:
they were holding back until you started the ritualentropy said:
also as a note all survivors will become heroes after this, omakes will improve their odds