The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Average Ork ends at tech level 15. The Imperial Trust is at tech level 18, Dark Age average is 22, and Dark Age max is 25. Considering how Orks managed to get attack moons, I think a moon-sized Dark Age space vessel should be a possibility.
We know it's possible, the Phalanx exists, but still remember those weren't orks at least not completely.
 
We know it's possible, the Phalanx exists, but still remember those weren't orks at least not completely.
The Phalanx is the size of a small moon, something which could just be 16 kilometres across or something. I'm not talking about a small moon, I'm talking about something more along the lines of Luna or Pluto.

EDIT: Oh and yes they were Orks. The Eldar even commented on how inferior they were to the Krorks.
 
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I mean...maybe?

I jusy want to set the idea that Bertils familly has a strong focus on buisness. In my mond there entrepreneurs and wall street gamblers.

I can see that you uave real gripes what with the whole alfhiem gdp but meh. Ill jist do what gw does and say that its all in the flawed mind of some overly rich kid turned CEO.

As for the Inquisition...why?

Its legitaletly a group of rich people biying a buisness. That happens alot.

Them enriching themselves is okay so long as they dont flip the board which Olaf and Olaf would not want.

Trusr regulations concerning the banks arent being broken either as there not buying stocks from the Trust Bank (although it could be assumed that they hokd shares of it).

As for midgardian regulators...idk. Midgard has a strong focus on naking guns and tanks (summary wise) but there also have skilled workforce of billions of people which means kower level crafting of special parts for vehicles or wvery day items could be a strong suit in the Midgardian economy.

Now the Bank they got, Herman, isnt exactly breaking rules its just somethig other buisness people look at and say "wow they spent alot of cassh and expanded with off world branches pretty aggresively.". Guess what? Thats not illegal its playing the game and winning.

Now the elephant in the room is how much of this all is believable? Have I written this all as I envishioned it? Probally not because im a lazy and shity writer...with adhd. In the end it could be that im going too american on something that is suppose to be out of this world.

If I may though..

Try and imagine J.P Morgan telling his son "kay sonny go and make me proud. Heres the familly buisness and some friends. Good luck. I gotta go fix the tac system ta ta~" and then boom.

We have this.

((written on my phone))
 
As for the Inquisition...why?

Its legitaletly a group of rich people biying a buisness. That happens alot.
Because it's a bunch of rich people buying business on other worlds that could drastically increase their power over not only their own world, but also other ones.

In my experience the Inquisition took a very dumb view of people with that kind of power and no it doesn't.

world branches pretty aggresively.
That is actually another problem I have with it, extra planetary businesses are very hard to pull off in 40K for humans at least.


Banking it might be doable, but on another world?

They'd get kicked out, no world wants their banking to be done by someone else.

And that's another thing the Trust bank is less of a bank and more the Trust's funding, it's based on Midgard, but it doesn't actually handle much actual banking near as I can tell, it doesn't invest in things or holds peoples money with interest, it just gives out funding for stuff ect.

As for midgardian regulators...idk. Midgard has a strong focus on naking guns and tanks (summary wise) but there also have skilled workforce of billions of people which means kower level crafting of special parts for vehicles or wvery day items could be a strong suit in the Midgardian economy.
That was before the standard of living shot through the roof.

Military is a big thing, but Midgard is the capital of the Trust with over 200 billion in population and the largest amount of Thrones in revenue and produce the most material in the Trust if they don't have some damn good regulation I'm a rats ass.

They also have some pretty damn good skills (environmental project and all that)

Try and imagine J.P Morgan telling his son "kay sonny go and make me proud. Heres the familly buisness and some friends. Good luck. I gotta go fix the tac system ta ta~" and then boom.
Who the **** is J.P Morgan.

And if that was what he was saying I'd say stop ****ing up our military ya douche.

I'll edit this later.
 
You dont know J.P Morgan?

Please google J.P Morgan and crash. Hes basically a billionaire banker who promised the U.S president at then time that he woukd save the stock market fron falling.

He did this by buying up gold bonds from other countries and then using his connections to make sure that said gold stayed in the U.S.

The second thing he did was convnce other big olayers to pool there money together in order to buy and and then silently demolish buisnesses that woukd cause a disruption. Fun fact it wasnt prifitable for him or his friends. So what he did was he kocked them all in a room and refused to let them out until they came up with a commitment for how much money woukd hand over to Mrgan for his "Disaster relief fund".


In other words a very rich guy does everything a countries national bank should and does so very well...and then he died and the roaring 20's happened.
 
I never said he was a hero. Although he was very philantrpical. I think he gave out free money for oublic libaries (if the city promised to cover operational costs later) and heloed find a cure for yellow fever.

Ultinately yes though. A robber Baron.

America is great at being a crook. :D
 
Have we made anything thing like a mobile drydock for our ships? For dedicated repairs and resupplies when on extended campaigns away from the home system. In my mind it'd have compliments of strikecraft for defense as well as mining ships for gathering materials as needed
 
Have we made anything thing like a mobile drydock for our ships? For dedicated repairs and resupplies when on extended campaigns away from the home system. In my mind it'd have compliments of strikecraft for defense as well as mining ships for gathering materials as needed
You could probably use the Goalith Factoryship for that (at least after some rework after learning more about the design) considering it can mine, build, and collect fuel.

Repairs are a whole other ballgame though, but then again it is better than nothing.
 
But but but

My wallstreet idea...

lol

In fairness I wanted to write to entertain and inform. Maaaaaaybe produce a Vanir bachelor for Syr even though everyone seems to want to marry Janes kid with the sword thing.
 
I think the wallstreet omake is fine.

It is certainly a much more interesting take into the likely shady things that go in to the Imperial Trust banking and economic system.
 
Have we made anything thing like a mobile drydock for our ships? For dedicated repairs and resupplies when on extended campaigns away from the home system. In my mind it'd have compliments of strikecraft for defense as well as mining ships for gathering materials as needed
You could probably use the Goalith Factoryship for that (at least after some rework after learning more about the design) considering it can mine, build, and collect fuel.

Repairs are a whole other ballgame though, but then again it is better than nothing.

Yeah we made a Ramilies upgraded for that, as well as a lesser version that Muspelheim made for the Trust.

In fairness I wanted to write to entertain and inform. Maaaaaaybe produce a Vanir bachelor for Syr even though everyone seems to want to marry Janes kid with the sword thing.
It entertained, but I'm prickly like that sorry :D.
 
You could probably use the Goalith Factoryship for that (at least after some rework after learning more about the design) considering it can mine, build, and collect fuel.

Repairs are a whole other ballgame though, but then again it is better than nothing.
To be fair, at this point we can probably ship the Goliath over to Vanahiem with a note "Traneth is busy with new ruins. You figure it out." And they'd figure it our eventually.
 
To be fair, at this point we can probably ship the Goliath over to Vanahiem with a note "Traneth is busy with new ruins. You figure it out." And they'd figure it our eventually.
I'm not going to lie, I'd accept that.

We've had that ship for fucking decades now (hell we got that ship two and half years when I wrote the omake) and our turn-action economy is focused on a lot of different things.

I would like for someone to actually get a use out of it.
 
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We've been putting it off because we want more bonuses for reverse-engineering it. Accidentally damaging a Goliath Factory ship could be catastrophic.
 
To be fair, at this point we can probably ship the Goliath over to Vanahiem with a note "Traneth is busy with new ruins. You figure it out." And they'd figure it our eventually.
I'm not going to lie, I'd accept that.

We've had that ship for fuck decades now (hell we got that ship two and half years when I wrote the omake) and our turn-action economy is focused on a lot of different things.

I would like for someone to actually get a use out of it.
Eventually in a couple of Mellenia.

There's a reason Tranth is pretty much the only person who does this (I mean sure he does technically have help from the Collegia reconstructus, but they're kinda not great at it the most complex thing they did alone was either the Magnis or the blue prints for the AA guns). Doesn't help that the Goliath is actually kinda complicated and the Vanir are not trained at this.
 
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Next turn we can start building the second version of the next tier mechanicus temple.

With the combinded +20 from the two in 4 turns it should be viable to start on the ship again.
 
Next turn we can start building the second version of the next tier mechanicus temple.

With the combinded +20 from the two in 4 turns it should be viable to start on the ship again.
I'm pretty sure the research bonus do not stack if they're from the same type of building. The next tier of Forge-Cathedral will add +10 only.
 
Because it's a bunch of rich people buying business on other worlds that could drastically increase their power over not only their own world, but also other ones.

In my experience the Inquisition took a very dumb view of people with that kind of power and no it doesn't.


That is actually another problem I have with it, extra planetary businesses are very hard to pull off in 40K for humans at least.


Banking it might be doable, but on another world?

They'd get kicked out, no world wants their banking to be done by someone else.

And that's another thing the Trust bank is less of a bank and more the Trust's funding, it's based on Midgard, but it doesn't actually handle much actual banking near as I can tell, it doesn't invest in things or holds peoples money with interest, it just gives out funding for stuff ect.


That was before the standard of living shot through the roof.

Military is a big thing, but Midgard is the capital of the Trust with over 200 billion in population and the largest amount of Thrones in revenue and produces the most material in the Trust if they don't have some damn good regulation I'm a rats ass.

They also have some pretty damn good skills (environmental project and all that)


Who the **** is J.P Morgan.

And if that was what he was saying I'd say stop ****ing up our military ya douche.

I'll edit this later.

I am on a computer so now I can properly answer! Now I know we've agreed to disagree but I'd like to converse on this a bit more.

1. I mean...it's rich people buying lots of stock and buying out a bank. It's happened before. It's a VERY big deal irl but it does happen. The Inquisition would also be hard pressed to do something. It's the Governors son and some rich guys doing something legitamate. They aren't using there power of money to influence Midgard (at the current stage) they are using it to make more money. There is no law against Interplannetary companies what so ever.

2. Extra-Planetary Buisnesses are hard but trading must happen and in the end of the day the nature of Bank and there functions isn't about making money. Banks lend money to local buisnesses in an area and expect payments on those loans. That's how they make money. Having an Interstellar bank doing such a thing isn't against the law. It's the idea of a Midgardian Officer on a colony excursion saying "Hey this is my home anywas right? I want to open up a tavern" and then applying for a buisness loan to open said tavern. The Planetary Government may not have the money/resources to help build small things like that and forcus exclusively on new roads, power plants, shielding, military affairs, bunkers, and etc. Small buisness loans? Not a thing I see them doing. At least not en masse. Hence where that Bank comes in.

3. Think I pointed this out before but they aren't breaking any rules (yet. We all know Banks do it..). All they can really do is fine the happyness from there wallets and maybe freeze there accounts (VERY BAD). But those are extreme measures and I doubt the consortium would get that greedy.

4. Can you give me more critique on the omake? Would you have liked to see more of it? Did you dislike the fact that I expected you to know things without asking? Any advice from anyone would be nice. Either here or on a PM. Thank you!
 
The Eldar word for Eldar is Aeldari.
The human word for Eldar is Eldar.
The colloquial term for Eldar is space elves.

The colloquial term for ant people is ant people.
I'm having trouble coming up with the human and ant people name for ant people.
 
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