The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
I would prefer spying sooner rather than later if possible since the new information could change our entire strategy for dealing with the super orks since we only have a vague idea of what form they are going to take.

By that token, doing it sooner apparently means we'll likely get less information on the super orks. So waiting a turn might mean we get a bit more info.
 
By that token, doing it sooner apparently means we'll likely get less information on the super orks. So waiting a turn might mean we get a bit more info.
With Durins info I would be in favor of doing both this turn. Synergy gives often good results.

Taminas chance for the frequencys is with traits and DD below 70% and the bonus would be like another DD but not needing an extra action.

Edit: Tamina get +37 through stats and traits for research through learning. Her chance with DD is 20 base + 20 DD + 27 stats + 10 traits = 77%

She really is good.
 
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Okay @Durin about spying on Gork and Mork
1. when you say less detailed information what exactly do you mean? Like will Ridcully be able to tell if Ork demons are going to be a thing versus beast level tech becoming common?
2. Would doing it earlier help narrow down the range when they will awaken?
 
Okay @Durin about spying on Gork and Mork
1. when you say less detailed information what exactly do you mean? Like will Ridcully be able to tell if Ork demons are going to be a thing versus beast level tech becoming common?
2. Would doing it earlier help narrow down the range when they will awaken?
1. i mean less detailed infoamtion, you do not yet know what infomation you will get out of this
2. unknown, possibly
 
Syr upgrades trait Naval Training (can use personal attention for Void actions, can command naval battles with -10 Martial) to Naval Experience (can use personal attention for Void actions, can command naval battles with -8 Martial)- Syr has been trained in the Avernite Naval Academy and spent several decades as a naval officer. While she lacks the instinct that she has for ground combat you are still one of the better Admirals in the Nine Worlds.

There must not be many good Naval Officers to be honest. I know this sounds harsh but how is it that someone with only like 20 years experience in an escort ship/light cruiser? How is it that someone so new to Naval warfare has become a 'better admiral' in the Nine Worlds?

You'd think the Old Guard of the Navy from Vanahiem would have there guys in the top 20 list.
 
@Durin
Can you answer what the time intervall is for Jane to do Hunt actions to keep her skill up again? Was it once per turn or per 10 years? (Maybe put into FAQ so that Jane gets her own section there as well. :whistle: )
 
There must not be many good Naval Officers to be honest. I know this sounds harsh but how is it that someone with only like 20 years experience in an escort ship/light cruiser? How is it that someone so new to Naval warfare has become a 'better admiral' in the Nine Worlds?

You'd think the Old Guard of the Navy from Vanahiem would have there guys in the top 20 list.
Presumably its due to her ground training before becoming a naval officer same as us.

The top "typical" admirals in the nine worlds tend to have about 30 martial (sarnow falls out of the classification due to having 40 intrigue), which is edge of human capacity.

The best admiral in the nine worlds is the Vanir and our Brother in law Freyr, who's got 30 (32) martial, but probably more now seeing how we haven't re investigated him since we first did when the Trust was first created.
 
There must not be many good Naval Officers to be honest. I know this sounds harsh but how is it that someone with only like 20 years experience in an escort ship/light cruiser? How is it that someone so new to Naval warfare has become a 'better admiral' in the Nine Worlds?

You'd think the Old Guard of the Navy from Vanahiem would have there guys in the top 20 list.

Because she's Rotbart and Freya's daughter.

No really, Rotbart is one of the, if not THE foremost general in the Trust. Freya was one of its greatest admirals. Syr inherited a lot from both her mother and her father; there was a lot expected of her, and she's proven her mettle time and time again.

Also, keep in mind that she's been an officer on Avernus of all places for decades. Even if she can only apply a (large) fraction of that martial to naval command, that's still way more combat than damn near anyone else in the trust sees over their lifetime.
 
There must not be many good Naval Officers to be honest. I know this sounds harsh but how is it that someone with only like 20 years experience in an escort ship/light cruiser? How is it that someone so new to Naval warfare has become a 'better admiral' in the Nine Worlds?

You'd think the Old Guard of the Navy from Vanahiem would have there guys in the top 20 list.
You've gotten spoiled from playing Avernus. It's not that Vanaheim's admirals are bad, it's just that Frederick and Syr are inhuman geniuses when it comes to warfare.
Remember that a "Great" stat ranges from 25 to 29.
 
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@Durin random rune question, would a pyromancer get more or less out of access to fir runes than a psyker of similar power and different specialization? I ask because I could see it being both a source of synergy, or a case where they can already do everything the runes do but better.
 
You've gotten spoiled from playing Avernus. It's not that Vanaheim's admirals are bad, it's just that Frederick and Syr are inhuman geniuses when it comes to warfare.
Remember that a "Great" stat ranges from 25 to 29.

Wow.

I totally fall into the spoiled part lol. This isn't condescending or sarcasm I just forgot about it.
 
Syr Rotbart
Age: 131, rejuved to 20

M: 21+20 (10)=41(33) (+112 martial bonus on ground, +65 martial bonus in space)- Syr has inherited a great deal of your military genius. At the moment she is one of the best commanders in the Imperial Trust, both on land and in space and given time she may even reach your level of military skill.

Is 33 the Naval trait btw?

EDIT: Also sorry for the double post
 
She is a better admiral than her uncle the solar admiral of the Trust. She would literally be in charge of the sector fleet or the Segmentum fleet if the Imperium was still around.
 
That's...pretty high. Would Ridcully helping out the war prioritize rerolls for Xavier?

Really high, a five percent chance of death with deploymeny twenty five percent chance of death with a constant in five years. If we deploy him all the time until the time the Ork gods wake up it's pretty much guaranteed that he will die. Yet Enjou the guy everyone bandwagons off of seems to want to deploy him all the time until the Orks wake up.
@Enjou I have to ask, are you planning to send Xavier off every single chance we get until the Ork gods wake up? Because looking at the numbers:

3. depends on several rolls but 1% to 5%, I will mention that he has a higher chance of getting new traits when deployed

Even if the rolls are mostly around the 1-3 percent level, over 35-40 years of constant deployment at best that is still a 35-40 percent chance of death if the rolls stayed at 1 percent which doesn't seem like the case. So it might be best to only deploy him sometimes with doing it all the time seeming like a pretty bad idea.
 

Thank you

She is a better admiral than her uncle the solar admiral of the Trust. She would literally be in charge of the sector fleet or the Segmentum fleet if the Imperium was still around.

To give an idea..

M: 21+20 (10)=41(33) (+112 martial bonus on ground, +65 martial bonus in space)- Syr has inherited a great deal of your military genius. At the moment she is one of the best commanders in the Imperial Trust, both on land and in space and given time she may even reach your level of military skill.

M: 16+12=28 (+42 marital bonus)- Admiral Sarnow is a skilled admiral more then worthy of the rank, though he is not counted among the best of the Imperial Trust.

M: 14+19=33 (+65 martial bonus)- Admiral Parnell is one of the greatest naval minds in the Imperial Trust, able to command fleets of any size in any imaginable situation and lead them to victory

M: 17+13(15)=30(32) (+50 or +60 martial bonus)- Admiral Freyr as a great Admiral, able to lead fleets of any size to victory against significantly more powerful foes.

Assuming the worst the Freyrs 32 is less than Syr's 33. She's not that much better but she can definetely be called better since she lacks the experiences that her Uncle has had. Interesting...

@Durin

1. How does Bertil feel about Syr?
2. Does he like her being part of the I.T. Navy?
3. Does he dislike Avernite involvements in the war?
4. Does he only dislike Rotbart and his policies that have made Avernus strong?
4b. Or does he hate Avernus period?
 
@Durin if Ridcully takes Military Assistance to give re-rolls to the campaign, will Xavier get priority for re-rolls so that his chance of death is reduced?
 
@Durin random rune question, would a pyromancer get more or less out of access to fir runes than a psyker of similar power and different specialization? I ask because I could see it being both a source of synergy, or a case where they can already do everything the runes do but better.
Answer to this is the same as other rune related questions - we have no fraking clue until we get our hands on said rune and test it. Durin reapeatedly stated that Sirens only gave basic description of the runes and we won't know the details untill we examine them.
 
Answer to this is the same as other rune related questions - we have no fraking clue until we get our hands on said rune and test it. Durin reapeatedly stated that Sirens only gave basic description of the runes and we won't know the details untill we examine them.

huh, I figured even with the language barring asking them if it's more or less useful for someone who specializing in what the rune does would be doable.
 
huh, I figured even with the language barring asking them if it's more or less useful for someone who specializing in what the rune does would be doable.
Issue here is that we don't have anything to go on (remember Imperium doesn't do runes) as well as lacking many things like Fulminacers and Aeromancers.

On the other hand the Siren's don't have a talent for Pyromancy.

Assuming the worst the Freyrs 32 is less than Syr's 33. She's not that much better but she can definetely be called better since she lacks the experiences that her Uncle has had. Interesting...
Remember that is Freyr's old character sheet from when we first investigated him over 100 years ago.

He will have certainly got new traits.
 
Issue here is that we don't have anything to go on (remember Imperium doesn't do runes) as well as lacking many things like Fulminacers and Aeromancers.

On the other hand the Siren's don't have a talent for Pyromancy.


Remember that is Freyr's old character sheet from when we first investigated him over 100 years ago.

He will have certainly got new traits.

yeah but by that character sheet he's done 80 years of service to Syr's 20 years? The growth rate seems to be pretty quick on Syrs part compared to Freyr.
 
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