- Location
- Germany
I suspect in a situation with that many cultists we will also kill a far higher percentage of them, instead of capturing.
Victory comes first, selling the defeated as a very distant second.
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- Thread starter Durin
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Victory comes first, selling the defeated as a very distant second.
Doomed Wombat
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- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Nah no need.
We got 400 cultists this turn and given the increase that's been going on we're going to be getting a decent amount per turn. Might as well put them to use rather than waste time raiding Valinor for cultists and potentially getting them going at us cause ya know we have bigger fish to fry a bunch of new undefended colonies that we don't want to provoke them to attack and we want to not waste time dealing with their nuts when we're operating on a 30 year assumption (and we still haven't found the nexx who are now at such a distance that going out there for a raid is really a terrible idea)
Besides the Banish rune alone pays for pretty much anything in my opinion if it's just the taster.
We kill 60% of them, but we still got 400 of them this turn for trading.
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- Location
- Australia
Are sedatives not an option? Between them and some daemonology that should be sufficient in keeping the cultists on lock while they get transported.
Inquisition Armoury - Lexicanum
Grey Knights Armoury - Lexicanum
Daemonology - Lexicanum
The Imperium has many tools at their disposal to attack the daemon even without firepower and the Emperor.
EDIT: Runes aren't even new. Humanity has had them for ages. The only difference between human runes and siren runes that I can tell is that the latter are powered by Avernus and Eldar Gods.
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- Germany
Yes, I mean if we had thousands of cultists and serious damage from them we'd kill a far higher percentage.
- Location
- Asia
Whoa, these guys really are a meat grinder. That's a kill ratio of 1: Several thousands per person.
@Durin
1. Did the Guv's Own get any traits from this ?
Interesting that Rotbart's first thought is "How can I take him down". I wonder what the Trust/Inquisition's plan would be take us down if we fall to Chaos; probably orbital bombardment.
Maybe they still have the plans crafted by their older seers before they sacrificed their lives. It would make sense that the newbie seers aren't capable of making adjustments to these plans due to their lack of experience.
Doomed Wombat
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And?
With the exception of true name staffs there's only some Grey Knight stuff, which is not the same thing and is almost certainly not as effective as these if they even had them (they sure as hell don't have a psilencer, and they only maybe have Psy rounds)
No all we had are new ways of focusing our firepower and praying to the emperor so that our bolts and wards would do more damage.
There are exceptions to that rule like True Name staves and Psilencers (psy out grenades sure don't count), but pretty much all other methods were forms of consecrations against the Daemon from the emperor and even those ones above, were just new ways of focusing fire power.
Psy bolts have anti daemon inscriptions on them, but again their main thing was negative psycic energy that was embued into each bolt not the runes themselves.
But really if the imperium had runes please show a demonstrable show of them that doesn't rely on the emperor like the Tarrot? please.
And again Daemonology=runes.
Singular effect on a single target vs wide spread weakening of all Daemons in a certain area.
If they are allowed to form into cults, but given our abilities its more likely that more just appear rather than make cults letting us pick up a greater proportion.
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- Leicester UK
Wut?
An ambush? With our flagship? How the hell did he...
I love this guy!
- Location
- Germany
Make an important campaign on a world they don't care about, ideally Orkish, ask for Freddie's help, Exterminatus.
- Location
- Australia
Nemesis Force Weapon - Lexicanum
Runic Weapon - Lexicanum
Rune Priest (Adeptus Mechanicus) - Lexicanum
Barbarisater - Lexicanum
Not sure if wards count, but I'm pretty sure they do.
So there, human runes. They exist, they work, and they're good against daemons.
I'm also quite unimpressed how you left out the link I left to daemonology considering that Banishment and Sanctuary are both psychic powers which have anti-daemonic effects that do not require the Emperor or firepower.
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1. probably, will roll at end of campaign
Doomed Wombat
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Not nearly cheap enough for any kind of mass deployment and don't weaken Daemons by their mere presence
Space wolf and thus can probably only be used by those with their psycic frequency and the frequency of Fenris.
Coding doesn't actually do anything psycically, but we've already had this argument.
That's just pentagramatic wards
Debateable, given the expense in creating them I'm pretty sure they're the ancient runes of Daemon slaying for the Nemesis Force Weapons, though those are more likely to be the Hexgramatic wards.
Banishment and Sanctuary are psycic effects that are temporary and don't last all that long even with the best psykers fuelling them of them, not passive effects that is effective by mere presence so them folded under fire power.
(it was emperor and fire power not fire power from the emperor, the two cross paths, but are not always the same)
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that was basically Rotbarts reaction
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- Reno Nv
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
@Durin
1. How effective is the banishment rune compared to other equivalents we might have from current tests?
2. Will the Siren familiar be lending us a hand in figuring out the runes?
3. What are the Siren's living arrangements
4. Has the bond produced any changes in her?
5. In her psyker?
1. How effective is the banishment rune compared to other equivalents we might have from current tests?
2. Will the Siren familiar be lending us a hand in figuring out the runes?
3. What are the Siren's living arrangements
4. Has the bond produced any changes in her?
5. In her psyker?
- Location
- Australia
@Alex pears
Right, now you've begun moving goal posts. I'm ending that line of discussion.
In other news, I found this.
Librarian - Lexicanum
@Durin, how does Fulmination teleportation differ from Daemonology teleportation?
EDIT: Librarians are so cool.
Right, now you've begun moving goal posts. I'm ending that line of discussion.
It was a typo. I meant 'or'.
In other news, I found this.
Librarian - Lexicanum
A psychic discipline that directly targets Machine Spirits. Yet further proof that they exist.
@Durin, how does Fulmination teleportation differ from Daemonology teleportation?
EDIT: Librarians are so cool.
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1. far better
2-5 already answered today
it is a different procedure for the same effect, under your classification it would go under Daemonology
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Lets not go down this road either we both know we could, but lets not.
Riding the lightning
.More seriously I imagine some kind of tagging along on lightning or transforming into lightning would be involved.
Really oh.
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
Are you sure that is a Librarian and not a chaos sorcerer? If not it is kind of awesome that Librarians are basically Sith that fling lightning like it is going out of style.
- Location
- Australia
That Librarian is from the Dark Angels, the most LOYAL and NON-HERETICAL chapter in the Imperium.
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
I could probably claim heresy for thinking they were not before
.But seriously yeah they're kinda awesome and now we can give them beta level librarians
Absolutely the most loyal and non heretical you have ever SEEN, no heretics what so ever nope nope nope nope nooooope.
Just ignore how shifty they are in... well pretty much everything and they're completely fiiiiiiineeee
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Which ones exactly?
True Metal Power
Lisa: The Hintful
- Location
- Russia
He need to become Creed... IN SPACE!
Moonshots seems to be a good counter to War Moonz.
- Location
- madison
jane.
".... this is how everyone else feels when they watch me conduct ground campaigns isn't it?" Frederic after hearing of the successful use of the Fólkvangr to ambush an Ork fleet.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
that sounds so right