The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
We should consolidate, fortify, crash colonise the new worlds and rebuild our forces. Once we are done with that we should immediately go back on the offensive and take more worlds from the orks.

The longer we need the more likely it is that one warlord beats the other and assimilates their domain.

By the point this happens we need to hold as much territory in the wider sector. Every world we take noticeably weakens the eventual, inevitable Waaagh, provides defense in depth and adds to our resource base.
 
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How much force should we dedicate to holding the worlds next turn? The Trust outright said if we can hold the three worlds for five more years, we're gold. However, two ork powers are currently going after those worlds so....Yeah.
 
Well we could do a distraction invasion to the stronger ork warlord and attrit that while building up the worlds we are conquering? It was the conservative idea for garkill invasion.

Um it hasnt been said about them attacking us at all or if they do then not very seriously and our navy should be enough to really murderize them even if they did atm.
 
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So is the crash colonization modelled on the Founding of Avernus?

Is it possible to wipe out Orks permanently on a world, anyway? (Excepting Avernus)

(Without Exterminatus, anyway.)
 
not really without truly stupid amount of effort i think.

But u can really brutalize the numbers alot easier and use alot of fire and for the defense were planning they wont really be a nuisance even really.
 
Well,I think we need Ridcully to made ork focus on each other instead of us,which should be easier.

We kill Garkill because he is 97 intelligence ork.
 
How much force should we dedicate to holding the worlds next turn? The Trust outright said if we can hold the three worlds for five more years, we're gold. However, two ork powers are currently going after those worlds so....Yeah.

They're also going after five other worlds and are going to be fighting eachother as well. And them fighting eachother is going to take up a lot of their resources, and they'll need to continue defending their own realms. Since the worlds we captured should have had most of the Orks exterminated they're also somewhat less interesting in terms of immediate seizure since they don't add to the forces that these two Warlords have.

Garkill's Domain is also probably very depopulated now. 30 billion Orks have been removed due to the campaign with Avernus, and on top of that three worlds have been lost, two of which were the major production worlds (and thus likely had higher populations than other worlds). Originally having around 70 billion Orks in the entire Domain, it'd have been 40 before our invasion. Let's presume half that was on the two major worlds, leaving 20 billion Orks, and split evenly between the other worlds that'd be 4 billion per world, and we took another one, so just 16 billion Orks left, perhaps. I'll be interested in seeing what changes actually happened when @Durin changes the Neighboring Regions sheet.

Ridcully also gave predictions on the location and timing of a number of minor Ork attacks on our captured worlds. That'll make defending easier since we'll know when and where to concentrate our forces.

So we'll probably need to send some forces, but it won't be as big as the campaign most likely.


Is it possible to wipe out Orks permanently on a world, anyway? (Excepting Avernus)

My understanding is that it's virtually impossible. The fungus that grows the Orkoid ecosystem can take decades to actually start growing in an area, so you never know when an infestation will pop up. It may be possible with a concerted effort lasting many centuries if you know what to look for and stamp out infestations before they become a real problem, then do something to remove spores from the local soil. Still, on most worlds it's more of an annoyance so long as you stay on top of the problem, since all resulting Orks will be ferals who don't have technology.
 
My understanding is that it's virtually impossible. The fungus that grows the Orkoid ecosystem can take decades to actually start growing in an area, so you never know when an infestation will pop up. It may be possible with a concerted effort lasting many centuries if you know what to look for and stamp out infestations before they become a real problem, then do something to remove spores from the local soil. Still, on most worlds it's more of an annoyance so long as you stay on top of the problem, since all resulting Orks will be ferals who don't have technology.
So in short, possible in theory but not really worth it.
 
I'm against sending significant forces to defend the Ork worlds we took, on grounds of saving some enemies for the rest of the Trust. :D

Seriously though, our army needs a chance to recover. We took the brunt of Garkill's invasion. Our army was the spear point against the Ork worlds. We still have Ork fortresses to assault. And to top everything off we just got hit by the most destructive chaos psyker of the last century.
 
Possible Notable Characters:

Named Primaris Psykers - Ambrosio Rana, Azara Geron, Odysseus, Aria, Zhukov
Other Psykers - Alpha Psyker Trainee (if passed trials), Navigator House Leader

Other Potential Notables - Ace Pilots?, Phase-Tiger Commander/Leader, Psyker Hunter Commander, Witch Hunter Commander, Witch Finder Leader, Final Astropath..

I'm really hoping I get to see the traits for Minor Psyker, Sanctionite, Witch Finder, Navigator, Neo-Astropath.
 
We probably get our army back at the end of next turn i guess when the danger is over and we wont take much casualties unless things go bad this turn at there and the worlds will be garrisoned by trust guard a few field armies from midgard i imagine?

we will take more causlties from chaos psykers and cleaning up the orks from avernus to be honest.
and ground army actions should be that and getting the casualties back atm.
 
Second Poscast
Omake - Second Poscast

HEEEEEY AVERNUSS! IT'S YOUR BOY BILLY BURR ANNNND I'M JUST CHECKING IN ON YOU!

I have to check in on my squad mates all over the planet right? Anyways I thought for this podcast I'd answer some fan mail that came just now actually. Their's like 3 I really want to answer because I think it's important too. An you know what's important for an ex trooper and now comedian like me must be important to all of you right?! HAHAHA

Anyways first question is from Margarette Thompson over by Elysium. Keep in mind no city so this person obviously wants some anomyinity and that's okay. We all like our privacy right Jane? Right. Hehehe. Oh boy maybe I just can't stop with that one. So this messege reads as follows:

Dear Bill Blow Hard,

I wanted to have your advice on going to Byzantium since my sons seem to want to move there with there wives. Very recently I lost my husband in the Ork Invasion and I haven't really felt as lonely as I am now. I know that one day I too will die and I'm not as young and free of grief as I was then. The Doctors I have sent me to therepy and prescriptions to deal with my 'anxiety' issues but the relief is slight and short.

My sons tell me that there friends who have moved there work hard every day but die of old age and do so very happily. Most of them get to die with there first mates which is something that I thought would happen with my late husband before he died in service. What do you think?

Also P.S I love your shows and your podcast. It's one of the few things that helps me keep going in life now.

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Geezus! I had to wipe some tears of my eyes. Um, Listen I am not going to tell you what to do with that and I'm going to just assume you have a ticket to get out or however it is that the immigration thing works. I don't know i'm not a clerk i'm a comedian at bars and comedy clubs. Anyways, First I feel for your husband and I know how hard it is to lose the people you love. I'm on my 15th wife right now and thankfully we've lived pretty well together but even I know that can change.

The thing is, for me, even if she died I know I would get over it. I'd stop doing shows and making money and maybe go to church and therapy more but I'd get back into the groove of things you know? It's just um, I don't second nature I guess? Ma'am you know yourself better than me so you need to know whether or not you want to keep living here. I know I've trashed migrants but in reality that's just shit talking that I do. Avernus is a Death World first and Foremost and it always will be. Not everyone who grew up here has what it takes despite, you know, the education you get from it.

I mean I know one family, a Cadian Branch, called the Philzens who migrated to Midgard because of some armament company they really wanted to set up. An last I heard buisness was booming over there and the grand kids are joining the Midgardian Army as Combat Engineers which is great. For Fjol IV I know that right now there looking for architects, city planners, and alot of farmers. So re-classing is really possible if you can get over your fear of the grass and dirt. So you know it's a possibilty and I wish you luck Ma'am.

Okay i'm going to take a break after that because as you all know, I the Great Bill Burr, am a cowardly line men who turned to comedy to make a living. Have some comercials folks and i'll be back. I gotta dry some tears from my face.

*Some time later*

Alrighty then next question. This is from Hermann from Lisdon's Queen's Park.

Hey Billy Goatee!

I wanted to get your opinon on the upcoming Bladesman Finals between Connor MaGrue and Floyd 'Flow' Faerywether fight. Who do you think is going to take home the win? I'm not sure if Flow has enough defense for the youngster but then again he does love to play guirilla tactics like if he was Catachan so i'm not sure. Thoughts?

Ya my thoughts exactly actually. You know the thing about Bladefighters that I don't like is the finnesse that it takes to be one. You can't just hack and slash like a dolt like me would do because your going to get eviscerated for that. You have to..i mean I don't know. I know why Floyd does what he does but it's just not as entertaining as Connor who just playes that aggrevise style where he comes in to stop your posturing and just keeps wailing on you until you lose out to exhaustion. An both of ther counter attacks are sick too so their's that too.

So yeah put me down as a 'I don't know' or a 'down the middle' because that's a tough fight to call. I will say this though I am so ticked that Dana Black is putting more Private School Graduates into the system. I mean I love the kids but they need to be in the fricking service not being superstars in a barbed wire ring haing fun poking each others organs out. Do your service first, get rejuvenated, and than when you have that experience go into the ring. Alot of these kids only have the minimum experience and there school training when they get in. I know it's good training but it's not enough to be at that 'excellent' level and it takes alot of training afterwards to get into that mentality. My opinion though and what do I know? I'm a comedian on a podcast talking trash.

Alright last question

What's going on Bill?

This is Private Gambrit from the Line Infantry Regiment at Outpost 33251. I know you were a recent guardsmen here and I wanted to ask if you could relate some of your experiences here with us. The current regiment has been combined with some other regiments and we are having issues with cohesion when it comes to getting of a proper line or advancing under fire.

HAHAHAHAHA

Yeah you know all this is a cheeky private. Listen man your in a bad regiment and theirs not alot you can do about it. You do have to follow your orders and hope everyone else does there part that's just how it goes in the Army. I will say this is if you have the chance talk to your sergeant or a popular guardsmen in your regiment and see if you guys can have a barracks party. You'd be surprised what some alcohol and 'therapy' can do for you guys. Just make sure to plan it out and go through the forms. Especially if your getting some of those newly graduated therapists with bad degrees. Everyone likes company but you gotta watch out for Harley Therapists that try to sucker you into worshiping the Blighted Gods.

Other than that though hope everything works out for you Gambrit.

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Thoughts on Omake?
 
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I think we took more damage than normal from the Beta Diviner because our forces were mostly away campaigning, TBH.

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Omake Idea! What's it like being the Last Astropath on Avernus?
 
How do neo-astropaths differ from the original ones ?

They're not soul bound to the Emperor, so they're just very specially trained Telepaths whose range is much, much smaller. Currently the greatest possible range, using a Gamma Neo-Astropath and a Gamma Neo-Astropath Receiver, would be 40 light years.

Speaking of Neo-Astropaths, given our expansion we should start the research for Neo-Astropath Choirs soonish.
 
I was wondering, actually, if we could create Telepathy Choirs to basically function as intercept networks to find Chaos Psykers? And Awakened Psykers, in general.

EDIT: What's the current bonus of Force Weapons for our Primaris? Masterwork Force Weapons are worth taking a look at.
 
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