The Galaxy is Flood, Not Food
- Thread starter Jackson Fox
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Oh boy, I'm guessing that tunnel goes straight to Malum then if it goes through the bad lands, Malum also makes sense as a bulwark against the traitors and Xenos ravaging the south, a springboard to launch their purges against the heretics.
Also an opportunity to rally faithful soldiers given how adept the people of Malum have shown themselves at fending off the enemies of the Emperor.
Things could get very spicy quickly the moment a Sister takes off her helm to give a rousing speech to the Faithful and takes in the Tide.
I do have sympathy for Ellen, her instincts are absolutely correct about what's going on but she lacks the resources, personal charisma and agents to do what she needs to do and is dealing with a surprise multi-faction Thunderdome akin to the catastrophe that was Kronus in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade.
Also an opportunity to rally faithful soldiers given how adept the people of Malum have shown themselves at fending off the enemies of the Emperor.
Things could get very spicy quickly the moment a Sister takes off her helm to give a rousing speech to the Faithful and takes in the Tide.
I do have sympathy for Ellen, her instincts are absolutely correct about what's going on but she lacks the resources, personal charisma and agents to do what she needs to do and is dealing with a surprise multi-faction Thunderdome akin to the catastrophe that was Kronus in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade.
OHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! well my bad I don't really read posts unless a chapter recently came out.
Fellow Human
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I'm still a bit disbelieving that Orks would be just fodder for the Flood. Wouldn't have Necrons used nanites to attack the spores in the War in Heaven? Aren't Ork genetics black-warpboxed, yet Flood read them casually.
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Being out of context has many advantages, plus neural physics overpowers any warp based effected out in the real world.
One changes the reality entirely while the other simply uses existing reality and leverages that to do stuff.
I'll point out that those were Krorks, not Orks, who are so much more capable and advanced than Orks that they could fight literal gods of the material realm and make the average necron soldier look like a Guardsman.
We don't see any sign that regular orks are immune to being affected by Nanites or similar. I suspect they likely had technological counters.
As for Tide reading their genetics, he's severely limited in what info he can glean from them. He's basically limited to that Ork individual. He doesn't gain an understanding of their technology from their genes, nor is he able to access their gestalt. For example, he could infect and 'read' a squig and start pumping out pure forms or combat forms with that squig's traits, but if he only had the squig, he wouldn't be able to make, say, an Ork boy or nob. Certainly he couldn't make a Krork unless he had one he could infect.
I don't know if you are familiar with the Flood's nature but if you aren't I would suggest just reading what they did to the Forerunner Ecumene a Tier 1: World Builder civilization that spanned three million worlds stretching across the galaxy and the Flood almost rendered them and the entire galaxy extinct in mere centuries so yeah there's a reason why even 40k fans acknowledge ( excluding copium fanboys) that the Flood would murder-stomp factions like the Tyranids with almost no effort after they form a gravemind.
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orkz not krorks
krorks probably could use their psiquic mojo and advanced tech to be inmune to feral flood and make massively hard for gravemind stage flood to infect them (i still hold that keymind would be better albeit still near peer fight)
by all means the flood already killed its setting equivalent of necrons and daot mankind simultaneously
a degenerated bioweapon isnt much competition by comparizon
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>casually walking into the death sun hot enough to get BBQ'd to 'cleanse' thier sins…
Sisters of Battle. Not even once.
Sisters of Battle. Not even once.
Ellen seem like a good investigator. I mean she figured out the flood only with gut instinct.
But she is honestly a naive commander. Telling the sister to "not immediately purge heretic" was idiotic. The sisters (or zealots in general) are at best directed in a direction and told to burn the heretic. Between the "Foul Xenos" and "traitorous scum" the sisters would never allow such being to share the same world as them. The fact they didn't went to purge the Ork when they landed was probaly only due to the respect they have for the God-Emperor most holy inquisiton, the institution not Ellen.
But she is honestly a naive commander. Telling the sister to "not immediately purge heretic" was idiotic. The sisters (or zealots in general) are at best directed in a direction and told to burn the heretic. Between the "Foul Xenos" and "traitorous scum" the sisters would never allow such being to share the same world as them. The fact they didn't went to purge the Ork when they landed was probaly only due to the respect they have for the God-Emperor most holy inquisiton, the institution not Ellen.
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Awesome chapter.
Just to clarify, are they under the usual Chaos whammy or are they actually legit in what they are doing?
Strunkriidiisk
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Oh, these guys are absolutely under the thumb of the Thousand Sons-led Chaos cult. Whether they know that, that's a different story.
I've seen a relatively common headcanon where the whole ork waaagh and soldiery were grafted onto a pre-existing terraforming tool, thus certain things are "militarized" and others not, is this the general case in your fiction? Like the code to make boyz is "encrypted" and the boyz themselves unusually resistant to many things, but the fungoid growths and general spreading mycelial network are less protected?
The way I view the Orks is that their growth and gestalt memory is only partially genetic and mostly Warp based, something Tide doesn't have access to. Basically, in the same way that the Chaos Gods will give out mutations to their favored, the gestalt will mutate Orks into larger and more complex forms based on their fightiness. Their mutations are just a lot more frequent and structured (as odd as it is to think anything about the orks as being structuted is) than Chaos.
EDIT: Ork Tek is similar to Tzeentch whispering secrets. The Orks don't understand the basic science or anything, they just know it works cuz it works.
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Amdar210
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Just hoping the Sisters of Battle get 'gifted' by Tide some biosuits. My earlier post about that, them maybe wearing/are fused with Saryn Prime looking biosuits with similar-ish abilities (but built around spreading Tide even further than Void/Space magic).
The Saryn Night Hunter skin may fit the best for Flood/Tide aesthetics.
The Saryn Night Hunter skin may fit the best for Flood/Tide aesthetics.
One thing that may be worth considering that the Orkz may represent a sort of 'low-power' or 'standby' state for the Krork forces proper, the Orkz as they are now wouldn't pose any kind of threat to the Old Ones as they were when they created the Krork.
They were also obviously no threat whatsoever to the Eldar for the duration of their domination of the Galaxy, it also took until the Age of Strife for most of the 'peaceful' xenos to die out, i.e. not killed by Orkz before the Galaxy went to shit, so it's clear that the Orkz as they are don't just escalate to War in Heaven levels when faced with powerful foes.
Whatever 'oomph' that made the Krork what they were isn't just available to the Orkz to be triggered, I half wonder if Gork an' Mork act as a kind of administration program for the weapon and have some level of decision over what is available to the Orkz at any given time based on whatever parameters the Old Ones programmed into them.
It sure wouldn't make sense to leave anything actually important to the functions of the Krork in the Materium where the C'tan have an absolute advantage over the Old Ones so it's no surprise there's little of actual use in their physical genetic code.
They were also obviously no threat whatsoever to the Eldar for the duration of their domination of the Galaxy, it also took until the Age of Strife for most of the 'peaceful' xenos to die out, i.e. not killed by Orkz before the Galaxy went to shit, so it's clear that the Orkz as they are don't just escalate to War in Heaven levels when faced with powerful foes.
Whatever 'oomph' that made the Krork what they were isn't just available to the Orkz to be triggered, I half wonder if Gork an' Mork act as a kind of administration program for the weapon and have some level of decision over what is available to the Orkz at any given time based on whatever parameters the Old Ones programmed into them.
It sure wouldn't make sense to leave anything actually important to the functions of the Krork in the Materium where the C'tan have an absolute advantage over the Old Ones so it's no surprise there's little of actual use in their physical genetic code.
That is a dope looking skin, holy shit
Addition: Personally a big fan of the Dex Operator skin as well, which I think looks sort of like Saryn
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Amdar210
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That is a dope looking skin, holy shit
Addition: Personally a big fan of the Dex Operator skin as well, which I think looks sort of like Saryn
This is an awesome Drifter suit. Love running around with it on.
As for who it could fit?
Purilla maybe. Looks sorta Psyker-ish.
Vhalidictes
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Ellen, beyond the obvious lacking in Inquisitorial experience, hasn't learned to pick her battles. And it will cost her.
The black humor here is that she's correct, and if she was a more seasoned Inquisitor, Tide would already have won.
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I have to agree with this, it looks like she's experienced enough to not be naive about things and release Tide with hope that things will work out, but not old and experienced enough to be desperate for any solution to the problem, even if it means making a deal with the devil. Right at that sweet spot.
I should note that Orks didn't yet even try to counter Flood. They have more than enough options to deal with infection - from power armor to cybernetics, to biological agents and so on. They may not be able to beat Flood spores directly, without becoming much more advanced, but fighting Flood forms with pretty primitive tech is very much possible - Halo kinda showcases it.
Strunkriidiisk
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It's also worth noting that Tide's success has been in the exact sort of circumstances the Flood is most dangerous - close quarters, which means that Tide's lack of firearms is a mitigated problem, and isolated enough that the Orks are mostly just trickling in in small bands at a rate that his forces aren't overwhelmed. If it was a field battle with the whole Waagh turned against him on open ground, it would probably be a much different story.
Also, we haven't seen any evidence that Tide can affect live Orks - all of his infections have been on corpses, at which point natural resistance no longer really matters.
Also, we haven't seen any evidence that Tide can affect live Orks - all of his infections have been on corpses, at which point natural resistance no longer really matters.
subsider34
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Hrmmm...sounds like in her haste, Ellen leaving without Purilla or Vidriov. Purilla might have her opportunity to "breathe deep" quite soon.