What are the end goal(s) of this quest?

  • Retake the Iron Throne.

    Votes: 36 14.0%
  • Destroy the White Walkers.

    Votes: 44 17.1%
  • Rebuild fallen Valyria.

    Votes: 43 16.7%
  • Create a new empire, forget the past and forge your own destiny.

    Votes: 74 28.7%
  • Survive. Who needs a crown?

    Votes: 24 9.3%
  • Utter domination. You are the Dragon and will not rest until you rule over all!

    Votes: 29 11.2%
  • Become the wisest of the wise. A true Loremaster. Learn the magics of old and converse with Gods.

    Votes: 40 15.5%
  • Forbidden Power - Why speak with the Gods when you can BECOME one of them?

    Votes: 64 24.8%
  • Immortality - The problem with Aegon the Conqueror is that he died. You will not.

    Votes: 79 30.6%

  • Total voters
    258
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At this time I am using a counter system, listing the number of days votes take to be put into action. However for write-in votes you don't know how many days an action may take. For this we will use the old system of Major/Minor Decisions, and I will tell you how many days/weeks/months the plan will take. Remember that every month has 28 days, and that there are 13 months in the year with New Years as a special day alone outside the months. There is no leap year, as their calendar is not accurate to that degree.

Major decisions are any new endeavors. Finding new investments. Finding new allies (specify what type, where you're looking if possible, what you want from them, etc) finding new trainers, starting new training even if it is with people you already know... Anything new.

No mixing something that would qualify as a minor decision or free action into your major votes! If you have a question about your votes, ask me.

Talking with specific people about specific subjects. You can generally only talk with one person at a time with this. There are simple logical exceptions, Husband & Wife combos can be put together as one conversation, brother & sister, stuff like that. I'll clarify if a combo is unacceptable when I see the vote. This is also for continuing any long term action. Any major decision that you have already voted to start (not just mused about in-story) can be a minor action the next time around. Continuing training that you have already begun for example. Continuing a long-term investigation or plot. Stuff like this.

Making small talk with characters. You will not learn anything special really, but it gives you more insight into their backgrounds and history, can raise/lower their loyalty or other relationship points with you, etc. Raising/lowering and how much depends on rolls.

These can interrupt any current action(s) and will take precedence over the current plan. A way to change things on the fly as you discover new information or alternate ways to potentially enhance your plan, or change it completely if needed.

Remember for all votes if you take a guard or other individual with you, you will need to write-in which guard/person you take with you (just saying take a guard or ally will leave the decision of which one up to me) and also whether Daenerys tries to use any future knowledge on the decision as well if it is one of hers or she is present. (She still may decide to try and use her future knowledge without your consent if she thinks it necessary.) These details are sub-votes.

[] [Plan] X (Current Month, Short Term, Long Term, Immediate Actions, Purchases, etc.)
-[] Major Decisions: Character name here
--[] Major Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 1
--[] Major Decision 2
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 2
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 2
-[] Minor Decisions: Character name here
--[] Minor Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Minor Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Minor Decision 1
--[] Minor Decision 2
-[] Free Actions: Character name here
--[] Free Action 1
---[] Sub-conditions
--[] Free Action 2
---[] Sub-conditions

You get the jist of this.

However, under the plan vote, you will then put a "Priority" Vote.

[] Aegon Priority: 1. Major Decision 1, 2. Free Action 2, 3. Minor Decision 1, 4. Major Decision 2, etc.
[] Daenerys Priority: 1. Free Action 2, 2. Major Decision 3, 3. Minor Decision 1, etc.

This way we can vote on the general plan, then I can separate the order of events in said plan.

Don't put V1, V2, or any other such revision information into your plan. Just leave it like I have it. Nothing extra. The tally system will update to your newest post. No need to make version markers. It just makes things harder for me.

If an action in a plan is not one for a specific character, more a general idea of what needs to be done, it will still need to go into the priority matrix.

At the end of all your votes, put your reasons explaining your vote choice. As I've said before, a plan with reasons will get more weight than one without. Because reasons matter. I care about reasons more than numbers. I need reasons to help build the characters. Get used to putting reasons into your plans, as eventually reasons will become a requirement rather than a suggestion. This post will change when that occurs.

[] [Plan] X

You may (but are not required to) put additional reasons to agree with that plan beneath your vote if there are reasons for it that the original vote creator didn't put in that you thought of. The more/better the reasoning inside explaining a vote, the greater the chance it will be added into the story.

Votes are typically closed after either 12 or 24 hours unless real life interferes. Ties will be either decided by me, or by whoever is in the forum or the Discord that has not voted already at the time. I will @ whoever is currently in the forum or Discord that I choose to be the tiebreaker.

Plans have specific timelines. Immediate Actions are obviously immediate. Current Month is similarly self-explanatory. Short Term is something that can conceivably be done within 1-3 months, and Long Term is 3-6 months.
 
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[X] Plan: To Dany with Love
-[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
-[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
-[X] Look into her eyes and say:

Daenerys. I love you more than I can say. Not simply as a brother loves his sister, but also as a man must love a woman. We have been together nearly our entire lives, separated only by a scant few months.

The sound of your laughter is one of my first clear memories. One that kept me warm on those cold nights that we spent destitute, huddled under filthy rags, and dreaming of a brighter future.

I made a vow to you that day upon my honor, my blood, and our family's name. By the 14 flames from which we sprang that I would take you to wife. I stand by that vow, and do reaffirm it to you here and now.

When I realized that fortune had found us, my thoughts almost immediately turned to you. But it also turned to the dangers that such a sudden windfall will bring. If we do this then a thousand eyes will be fixed upon us, not all of them friendly.

Never for a moment did I think we should not become man and wife. And I am hurt that you would accuse me of lying to you, off all people! I only wanted to speak with you first, before assuming that I knew your mind.

We are partners Dany, in this and all things. If you wish to announce our betrothal to the entire city tomorrow then that is what we shall do. Only please, take a moment and have a care. The usurper and his hired knives are still out there. I have just discovered that Illirio knows where we are. I know not what his game is but I don't believe that he is a true Ally.

As I said, we are partners, and I made a promise. I leave the final decision to you.

NOTE: I dug deep for this one Luna. I hope you are happy with yourself. You made me feel my own feelings! :cry::p

But seriously, IC Aegon can only explain his reasons and ask Dany to consider them along side her own desires. A man has a right to say no to his significant other, even when she is at her most infuriating. But a true relationship (like I hope these two fictional people that we play with are developing) is an exercise in compromise. The ball's in your court now girl. Make your move!

Have tha' say. Too much explainations.
 
[X] Kiss her.
-[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
 
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[X] Kiss her.
-[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.

I feel it would be easier for GM to write dialogue this way. Make it more natural.
 
8/18 votes and the most anything has is two. You all need to come together and consolidate for me to write an update. Maybe actually talk with each other like I keep suggesting? I've only got it tagged in the quest three times, and have personally mentioned that discussion helps you on your rolls by lowering the DCs on multiple occasions. Was ready to write another update now but... If none of you talk to each other, there won't be a victory here.

Guess I'll just go to sleep and hope you magically start talking or something. It's like pulling teeth with you guys.

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Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Sep 15, 2017 at 4:41 AM, finished with 1805 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Plan: To Dany with Love
    -[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
    -[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
    -[X] Look into her eyes and say:
    [X] Kiss her.
    -[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
    [X] "Yes, Dany. That's the real reason. I didn't want to marry you, that's why I told you I would, instead of marrying you to someone else to get a political alliance. Yes, that is logical and the reasons I just gave you are lies and excuses and shouldn't be considered at all. I mean, the first half of that statement was that we can get engaged and we shall. Let's ignore that. Focus only on the second half where I only said that I want to discuss whether or not revealing our wealth would be prudent right now. And take it to mean I don't want to marry you. That makes complete sense."
    [X] I love Dany I am sorry I keep putting our wedding off but I have been busy setting up things for our future together. When would you like for us to marry?
    [X] Hug and reassure her. Marriage is happening, wanted opinion on timing and wealth reveal.
    [X] Tell her that you do want to get married and just want to make sure you will both be safe revealing the information. However, if she wants then you will get married as soon as possible regardless of the risk, because your first priority is keeping her happy, and that matters more to you than a throne. If she wanted then you would be happy to give up on restoring the Targaryen name in some grand fashion and just live peacefully together as incredibly wealthy merchants. Then kiss her.

Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Sep 15, 2017 at 6:34 AM, finished with 1810 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Plan: To Dany with Love
    -[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
    -[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
    -[X] Look into her eyes and say:
    [X] Kiss her.
    -[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
    [X] I love Dany I am sorry I keep putting our wedding off but I have been busy setting up things for our future together. When would you like for us to marry?
    [X] Tell her that you do want to get married and just want to make sure you will both be safe revealing the information. However, if she wants then you will get married as soon as possible regardless of the risk, because your first priority is keeping her happy, and that matters more to you than a throne. If she wanted then you would be happy to give up on restoring the Targaryen name in some grand fashion and just live peacefully together as incredibly wealthy merchants. Then kiss her.
    [X] Boop nose.
    -[X] "You're being silly, Dany. I just said I was going to marry you. If I didn't want to, there was no reason for me to betroth you to myself, instead of seeking an ally by marriage, an ally we sorely need. Of course I want to marry you. I love you Dany. That is also what I came to discuss with you. When I asked if we should get married right now, "Yes" was also one of the possible answers."
    -[X] Kiss her.
 
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[X] Kiss her.
-[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
 
No telling her she is being silly is a bad move. You need to go with a big declaration of love or a gesture of love. Telling her she is silly is a bad thing and you should never say that to a women unless you want to break up with her. Because trivializing her worries will just belittle her and piss her off at you.

People are not rational. Most people will base there decision on emotions and how they feel not on what is rational. She is a afraid young women in a society where marriage is a safety net for her. All she has is Aegeon and unless she marries him her future is uncertain.
Yes, there is a larger chance that Dany might react badly if we try to correct her instead of placate her, but we need to take that chance. See, the problem is you want to placate Dany now. You're not thinking long-term. I want both Dany and Aegon to be pragmatic and logical going forward, so I want to nip this problem in the bud. Agreeing and going along with her just encourages her to be irrational again. I've had my fill of unstable and irrational Dany in canon, thank you. No need to repeat that here.

And I'm not saying we should belittle her. I'm just saying we should show her her worries are irrational and unfounded, and actually silly. Because when people say "Stop being rational" or "Stop using logic", which sadly happens a lot to me, it's when they realize I'm right but refuse to acknowledge that they're wrong.

So, non-sarcastic vote:
[X] Boop nose.
-[X] "You're being silly, Dany. I just said I was going to marry you. If I didn't want to, there was no reason for me to betroth you to myself, instead of seeking an ally by marriage, an ally we sorely need. Of course I want to marry you. I love you Dany. That is also what I came to discuss with you. When I asked if we should get married right now, "Yes" was also one of the possible answers."
-[X] Kiss her.



I'll even use a nat20 if it means Dany will be more likely to be rational in the future. Waiting on @Lunasmeow's word on that.
-[] Use one of the Witch-King's Nat20s to convince Dany to be logical and not get irrationally angry/sad.

Edit: Added in lightheartedness and romance due to comments by @Galerius stating it was too cold and lecture-y.
 
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[X] Plan: To Dany with Love
-[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
-[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
-[X] Look into her eyes and say:
 
[X] Kiss her.
-[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
 
[X] Plan: To Dany with Love
-[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
-[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
-[X] Look into her eyes and say:
 
[X] Plan: To Dany with Love
-[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
-[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
-[X] Look into her eyes and say:

Daenerys. I love you more than I can say. Not simply as a brother loves his sister, but also as a man must love a woman. We have been together nearly our entire lives, separated only by a scant few months.

The sound of your laughter is one of my first clear memories. One that kept me warm on those cold nights that we spent destitute, huddled under filthy rags, and dreaming of a brighter future.

I made a vow to you that day upon my honor, my blood, and our family's name. By the 14 flames from which we sprang that I would take you to wife. I stand by that vow, and do reaffirm it to you here and now.

When I realized that fortune had found us, my thoughts almost immediately turned to you. But it also turned to the dangers that such a sudden windfall will bring. If we do this then a thousand eyes will be fixed upon us, not all of them friendly.

Never for a moment did I think we should not become man and wife. And I am hurt that you would accuse me of lying to you, off all people! I only wanted to speak with you first, before assuming that I knew your mind.

We are partners Dany, in this and all things. If you wish to announce our betrothal to the entire city tomorrow then that is what we shall do. Only please, take a moment and have a care. The usurper and his hired knives are still out there. I have just discovered that Illirio knows where we are. I know not what his game is but I don't believe that he is a true Ally.

As I said, we are partners, and I made a promise. I leave the final decision to you.
 
[X] Kiss her.
-[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
 
@Molyneux @Satsuma Red @RideTheWalrus

Any explanation why?

I'd like to try convincing you otherwise, if that's alright.
Presumably because they agree with the reasons given by the people making the vote.

Also, @Molyneux , thanks for the support, but better change ships. QM has generously told me, at the cost of a nat 20, that my vote is stupid and the reasoning is all wrong and we should just let women be women. Because irrationality is such a great quality in a person, and every man looks for it in his bride!
 
We were warned that Dany fears people leaving her, which is why she's so insistent on the marriage in the first place.
 
Presumably because they agree with the reasons given by the people making the vote.

Also, @Molyneux , thanks for the support, but better change ships. QM has generously told me, at the cost of a nat 20, that my vote is stupid and the reasoning is all wrong and we should just let women be women. Because irrationality is such a great quality in a person, and every man looks for it in his bride!
Hey, there was far better reasoning than that in there. Not my fault if you don't want to share why with the forum. Don't make me out like that!
 
Isn't her irrationality based on the legitimate fears which I've spelt out before, viz. abandonment, distrust, etc..

It's been foreshadowed sufficiently imo, and we keep humming and hawing over the marriage.

I've never thought that the way to deal with irrationality with family/girlfriends is to combat it head on as the chance for irrationality is increased with emotions.

I just think the chances of messing it up are too great.

Rather, we should assuage her concerns and attempt to make her see her faults later in hindsight.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Sep 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, finished with 1820 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Plan: To Dany with Love
    -[X] Look deep within yourself, and summon all the passion you have in your heart!
    -[X] Carefully bring her face up to yours and kiss her sweetly.
    -[X] Look into her eyes and say:
    [X] Kiss her.
    -[X] Afterwards, reassure her with a promise that it Will happen, but we wanted to get her opinion on what we should do first. Like a husband would do with a wife.
    [X] I love Dany I am sorry I keep putting our wedding off but I have been busy setting up things for our future together. When would you like for us to marry?
    [X] Tell her that you do want to get married and just want to make sure you will both be safe revealing the information. However, if she wants then you will get married as soon as possible regardless of the risk, because your first priority is keeping her happy, and that matters more to you than a throne. If she wanted then you would be happy to give up on restoring the Targaryen name in some grand fashion and just live peacefully together as incredibly wealthy merchants. Then kiss her.
    [X] Boop nose.
    -[X] "You're being silly, Dany. I just said I was going to marry you. If I didn't want to, there was no reason for me to betroth you to myself, instead of seeking an ally by marriage, an ally we sorely need. Of course I want to marry you. I love you Dany. That is also what I came to discuss with you. When I asked if we should get married right now, "Yes" was also one of the possible answers."
    -[X] Kiss her.
    [X] Boop nose.
 
Told you all to consolidate. Now what should I do... You all gave the QM license to be evil. Do I merge the two? Pick the better one? Or make Aegon as hesitant in character as you all were to pick something? Hmmmmmm. Choices, choices, choices.
 
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I'm gonna roll a 20. Low I pick hesitant. Medium I merge the two. High I pick one at random. Unless someone wants to use a 20 to ensure Aegon isn't hesitant?
 
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