Suffer Not ≡][≡ 40k Inquisition Quest

[open_sketch]

≡][≡ Inquisitor Joanyn Praxis ≡][≡
Imperial Inquisitor, Ordo Hereticus

Spoiler: Portrait

Spoiler: Attributes

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength - 1
Agility - 2
Melee - 1
Endurance: 4

Mental Attributes
Intelligence - 3
Tactics - 2
Nerve - 1
Fortitude: 6

Social Attributes
Charm - 4
Presence - 3
Contacts - 3
Resolve: 10

Faith Attributes
Belief - 2
Scripture - 0
Fire - 1
Conviction: 3

Spoiler: Values & Temptation

(3) - The Imperium should be an alliance of solidarity for the weak, not an alliance of strength for the strong.
(2) - People are more than problems, weaknesses, corruption vectors to eradicate. Their feelings and dreams matter.
(1) - A Shot Fired is a Shot Wasted

<1> - Victory makes me feel alive.

Spoiler: Stat Summary

Strength is raw physical conditioning. Lifting stuff, swimming, running a long time, punching hard. It's added to many melee attack damage as well.

Agility is swiftness, reaction speed, and immediate awareness. It's used for dodging things, jumping, ducking, outrunning folks, and other twitchy reactions.

Melee is the general skill of up close combat with knives, swords, fists (power or otherwise), chainsaws, whatever else.

Intelligence is raw intellectual power, knowledge, and drive to learn and study stuff. It is also used for military logistics.

Tactics is your knowledge of battle tactics, from the strategy of leading armies to simply knowing when it is safe to rush across a hallway in a gunfight.

Nerve is the stat both for shooting firearms and for keeping your cool. Nerve checks are common in combat to prevent from panicking or fight through pain.

Charm is the social stat used for flattery, smoothtalking, lying, seduction, verbal sparring, deflection, and navigating high culture.

Presence is the social stat used for reasoning, explaining, teaching, intimidating, impressing, or public address.

Contacts is rolled to know people you need to know, and to have a good reputation with them.

Belief is your actual faith in... whatever you have faith in. The Emperor, hopefully. It is used to resist temptation and corruption.

Scripture is your knowledge of the intellectual side of your religious faith. If you can quote from the holy books and theologians. It's intelligence for matters of faith.

Fire is your ability to project your faith out and convince others of it. Want to convert somebody or whip a crowd into a fanatical fury? This stat.

Spoiler: Skills

Weapon: Laspistol
Weapon: Hellpistol
Trade: Manager
Trade: Spy
Trade: Political Operator
Talent: Verbal Sparring
Talent: Seduction
Talent: Dishonesty
Talent: Intimidation
Talent: Exfiltration
Talent: Logistics
Talent: Propaganda
Talent: Indirect Persuasion
People: Dahlia
People: The Corrupted
People: High Imperial Politicians
Knowledge: Imperial Political Theory

Spoiler: Weapons & Armour

Social Loadout
1 Compact Laspistol, 1 Laspistol Reload, Flash-Safe Glasses, 6 Concealed monoknives, 1 Show Knife, 1 Belt Buckle Gun, 1 Plastex Bodyglove/Flakweave Suit, Displacer Field

Combat Options
+1 Hellpistol, +1 Transonic Machete

Compact Laspistol
Small Handgun
Attack Dice: 1/d10 -or- 2/d10-1
Aim Bonus: +1
Damage Bonus: +2
Armour Reduction: 0
Magazine Size: 4
Special
Laser: Does not cause bleeding.
Blinding: If operated without flash protection, witnessing the impact of a las-weapon will blind for 3 rounds.

Concealed Monoknife
Small Knife
Attack Dice : 1/d10
Damage Bonus : Agility + 1
Armour Penetration : 2
Parry Bonus : -1
Disarm Bonus : +0

Show Knife
Medium Knife
Attack Dice : 1/d10+1
Damage Bonus : Agility + 1
Armour Penetration : 0
Parry Bonus : +0
Disarm Bonus : +0

Buckle Gun
Tiny Handgun
Attack Dice: 2/d10-2
Aim Bonus: +0
Damage Bonus: -2
Armour Reduction: 0
Magazine Size: 1
Special
Hidden: Will always escape searches.

Plastex Bodyglove/Flakweave Suit
Clothing
Armour Value : 3
Coverage : All but Head and Eyes
Resistances : Impact, Blunt

Displacer Field
Energy Screen
When hit with an attack, roll 1d10.
1: Displaced into worse danger.
2: Displacer field fails. Take the hit.
3-6: Displaced hard. Take 1 Sore from bumping into something.
7-9: Displaced. Attack avoided.
10: Nothing personal, kid.

Hellpistol (Voss Pattern)
Medium Handgun/Carbine
Attack Dice: 1/d10 -or- 2/d10-1 (One-Handed)
Aim Bonus: +1
Damage Bonus: +3
Armour Reduction: 2
Magazine Size: 12
Special
Laser: Does not cause bleeding.
Blinding: If operated without flash protection, witnessing the impact of a las-weapon will blind for 3 rounds.
Convertible: When converted to Carbine mode, gain +1 to Attack and Aim Bonus.

Transonic Machete
Medium Knife
Attack Dice : 1/d10+2
Damage Bonus : Strength + 3
Armour Penetration : 1 + Half of enemy Armour (Round Down)
Parry Bonus : +0
Disarm Bonus : +3
Special
Sickening Vibrations: Enemies with 3 meters of an active blade count as being at -1 to all stats.

Spoiler: Companions

Sister Charitina
A member of the Order Famulous who found her faith again thanks to the Inquisitor. Praxis' closest confidant, dearest friend, and irritating ex-girlfriend.
Attributes of Note: Nerve 3, Contacts 4, Charm 3, Scripture 2, Fire 2
Skills of Note: Career - Order Famulous, Weapon - Bolt Carbine, People - Inquisitor Praxis
Equipment: Half-Plate Power Armour, Bolt Carbine, Burning Blade
Known Values: (3) The nobility is a blight on the Imperium, (2) I trust the Inquisitor's vision for the future, (1) Galaxy grim and dark, tiddy soft and warm.

Dahlia Hussian
A 17 year old unsanctioned psyker, rescued by Praxis from the witch's pyre she volunteered for at age 12. Loves the Emperor, and hates herself for being unworthy and twisted.
Attributes of Note: Power 1, Control 2, Sight 2, Faith 5, Strength -1, Nerve 0
Skills of Note: Talent - Self Discipline, Talent - Self-Hatred
Equipment: Web Derringer
Known Values: [3] I am here because I was given a chance. I should extend the same chance to others, [2] The Emperor is all things, [1] I can atone for my existence by aiding the Inquisitor

Marvel Ann Alemanga-Zero
A Magos of the biology wing of the Adeptus Mechanicus, Marvel Ann is an exuberant, odd, and enthusiastic cyborg lady who is an expert in medicine and bionics. She's Joanyn's current sweetheart, and she autotunes her voice.
Attributes of Note: Intelligence 4, Charm 3, Strength 4
Skills of Note: Career - Cyberdoc, Talent - Surgery, Talent - Singing
Known Values: [2] Adventure is to be seized with both hands (and as many mechandrites as possible)

Fraser Bookter
A positively ancient scribe who served Praxis' teacher, Bookter has seen all manner of things. Despite that, he keeps good humour.
Attributes of Note: Intelligence 4, Scripture 2, Contacts 2, Strength -2
Skills of Note: Career - Archivist, Knowledge - Imperial History
Known Values: ???

Korey Kilimnik
Once a Lightning fighter pilot for the Navy, until he was caught fucking an admiral's son. Kilimnik professionally doesn't care unless it has jet engines.
Attributes of Note: Nerve 5, Agility 3
Skills of Note: Career - Fighter Pilot, Talent - Piloting, Talent - Causing Trouble
Known Values: [2] By death or rejuvenation, age will never slow my reflexes

Penalties​

≡][≡​	Sore​	Strain​	Stress​	Stain​	≡][≡​
◹☠◸​	0/4​	0/6​	0/10​	0/3​	◹☠◸​
◹⛉◸​	3 XP​	XP3​	33 XP​	9 XP​	◹⛉◸​

CURRENT RP
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RULES SUMMARY
ROLZ ROOM​

 

[FrangibleCover]

The thing is, somebody can be "reasonable", for a given value of the term, and still have a very different set of beliefs and priorities. And we have literally no idea what his are. I'm not arguing in favor of lying to him, to be clear. My preferred path is sharing enough info he can understand why his instruments are going crazy if he acts reasonably, and just stonewalling him if he won't do that. But the idea that trusting him with a large amount of the full truth is automatically the best and safest route is kinda weird?? Like, you can "reasonably" conclude as an Imperial that the Eldar are notoriously treacherous and tricky, and we shouldn't do anything they're suggesting we should without at minimum very thorough (and time-consuming) investigation first. And "reasonably" conclude that you can't in good conscience allow another Inquisitor to go off half-cocked and send the message the Eldar want right now (which is what Praxis/the thread want to do, last I checked).

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Two things:

Stovepiping information as much as possible is standard practice for inquisitors in canon and exactly what we are supposed to think we should do. All of 40k leads up to us telling him to fuck off, both of us getting in a firefight or some damn fool thing, everyone dying and the message being lost. This is why we shouldn't do it, stovepiping is terrible in any real bureaucracy, this guy is already clued in on something fucky, we can trust him to keep confidential and probably to have a better idea of what the Eldar farseers are up to than we do. This is the genestealer thing again, where genre convention had us arguing between Mass Sterilisation and Vent Compartment To Vacuum for a bunch of scared refugees. Take the 40k hat off and actually look at the situation.

Secondly, by same 40k convention, anyone we tell the Eldar are involved in this may summarily BLAM us, and if we lie about the source of the prophecy then nobody will believe us. At some point we have to tell someone and take the risk that we won't be killed immediately. Who do you think we should tell?

 

[Simon_Jester]

[X] I received a prophecy, foretelling a new Black Crusade and it's success. I went into the underhive to retrieve someone who could pass the warning where it needed to go to hopefully avert the coming storm.

 

[Fayhem]

Who do you think we should tell?

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The person that we actually need to, the Lord Admiral.

[ ] Say nothing. (Normal presence check. He will be irritated with you and you will be on his radar, but on a success this will relegate the issue to the background.

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And I don't think Sketch is lying to us about what the results of saying nothing to him would be. "Saying nothing" results in "he's irritated, but the issue will fade into the background", not "everybody dies in a shootout." A worse outcome than success might be worse, but a Normal presence check for us would be a 3+ even if none of our skills apply (which tbf I don't know if any would). Not exactly super tough to beat.

Praxis is deeply unsure how much shit she'd be in, she does not know anything about this weird dude.

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And we also have QM confirmation of what Praxis knows ic. Which is nothing, with a side of "it might not be harmful to tell him, but also it might be." That's why I want to test the waters and see how open to being reasonable he is before telling him anything. If he'll make even a minor gesture of good faith (he literally used the term I want to ask him to define in front of us without prompting; it's clearly not a Super Duper Can't Even Tell Other Inquisitors Secret), then he gets the part of the intel least likely to lead him to putting barriers in our way, that still informs him of the scale of the stakes and the fundamental nature of the situation. If he won't even do that, then IMO that tips the balance to "we can't trust a guy who won't make even a much more minor effort to trust us" and we just let him be irritated with us.

 

[FrangibleCover]

And we also have QM confirmation of what Praxis knows ic. Which is nothing, with a side of "it might not be harmful to tell him, but also it might be." That's why I want to test the waters and see how open to being reasonable he is before telling him anything. If he'll make even a minor gesture of good faith (he literally used the term I want to ask him to define in front of us without prompting; it's clearly not a Super Duper Can't Even Tell Other Inquisitors Secret), then he gets the part of the intel least likely to lead him to putting barriers in our way, that still informs him of the scale of the stakes and the fundamental nature of the situation. If he won't even do that, then IMO that tips the balance to "we can't trust a guy who won't make even a much more minor effort to trust us" and we just let him be irritated with us.

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I don't have any problem with asking him to define a term, I have a problem with your vote then giving him no useful information if he defines the term. I don't think there's a significant risk of him refusing to define it, as you say he used it quite freely and seems happy enough to help, but whatever.

Again, in the Genestealer thing we had in character confirmation that we had to do the bad thing, because this is 40k and everyone thinks they have to do the bad thing all the time for Safety and Order. That's the lesson of the quest, you don't.

With regards to having a fight, saying nothing and telling him to fuck off are different. We're already a different sort of inquisitor, let's be a really different sort of inquisitor: Alliance of solidarity. People are more than problems.

 

[Elero]

I agree, I think. We are too far in the 40K thinkmode, seeing this guy as a threat first and foremost when we have here a capable expert on subject matter related to prophecy that could be an incredible asset and help.

In any other setting, going to a member of your organisation that specialises in time fuckery when prophecies are involved would be a total no-brainer. We should try and look past the way the genre wants us to think and past the instant paranoia.

 

[Fayhem]

I have a problem with your vote then giving him no useful information if he defines the term

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I don't think I have anything to say that I haven't said at least once already so I'm going to let this die out, but I do want to quibble with describing "the prophecy says there's a Black Crusade coming" as not being useful information.

 

[Glau]

[X] I received a prophecy, foretelling a new Black Crusade and it's success. I went into the underhive to retrieve someone who could pass the warning where it needed to go to hopefully avert the coming storm.

 

[TheBiggerFish]

[X] "My recent activities are restricted information. I'm going to need a quid pro quo of information first if you want me to share anything. Tell me what "breaking the timestream" means in non-technical language, and how dangerous you think it is."
-[X] If he shares, tell him: "While on a mission in the underhive for reasons that are still restricted information, I unexpectedly encountered a prophecy foretelling an imminent Black Crusade of immense strength that is destined to overwhelm the Imperial defenses. I wasn't sure how much credence to put in it but was going to pass a message about it to higher levels just to be safe."
-[X] If he holds back then say nothing.

 

[Aunty Shi Ping]

"See, these are not normal readings. Captain, these aren't normal, are they?" he said, glancing back to his identical space marines.

"They are not, Lord Inquisitor." one of the marines intoned gravely. You swear you saw the other smirk.

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This feels disingenuous to me. I am not sure why he would be playing such games here, but my first assumption of what those readings indicate is that he has just lost a game of Tetris.

I am concerned as to what the function of Ordo Chronos is. The alien inquisitors kill aliens. The warp inquisitors suppress warping. The disloyalty inquisitors are generally not Praxis. I worry that time inquisitors are supposed to prevent subversion of the proper course of events, and trust that The Emperor has already set the proper outcomes into place. Thus messing with time would be the crime, and the reasons for doing so would be irrelevant. To the best of my knowledge Praxis has no idea what this inquisitor's actual job is, even on a vague ideological level, far less the actual immediate objectives of this specific situation. We don't even know for certain that it is the prophecy that got his attention. For all we know some Tzeenchian influence allowed us to save those lostech hydroponics and now in a few centuries they will be dug up intact and cause some great tumult...

 

[spiritualatheist]

This feels disingenuous to me. I am not sure why he would be playing such games here, but my first assumption of what those readings indicate is that he has just lost a game of Tetris.

I am concerned as to what the function of Ordo Chronos is. The alien inquisitors kill aliens. The warp inquisitors suppress warping. The disloyalty inquisitors are generally not Praxis. I worry that time inquisitors are supposed to prevent subversion of the proper course of events, and trust that The Emperor has already set the proper outcomes into place. Thus messing with time would be the crime, and the reasons for doing so would be irrelevant. To the best of my knowledge Praxis has no idea what this inquisitor's actual job is, even on a vague ideological level, far less the actual immediate objectives of this specific situation. We don't even know for certain that it is the prophecy that got his attention. For all we know some Tzeenchian influence allowed us to save those lostech hydroponics and now in a few centuries they will be dug up intact and cause some great tumult...

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That's not in theme for the quest though. Standard 40k paranoia is wrong and counterproductive here, and I have too much faith in @open_sketch to believe that they'd throw away the narrative so far for a quick gotcha.

 

[Fayhem]

I don't think "someone turns out to not be immediately a friend and/or ally" would count as "throwing away the narrative," but it will play out however it plays out.

Edit: okay, I figured out why that bugs me. To me that reads like it's saying taking a leap of faith on trusting [whoever] must always be the objectively correct choice to take, and if the QM doesn't catch you after that leap then they're betraying your faith and throwing away the narrative so far. I hope that's not actually what you were intending with that, but that's why that rubbed me the wrong way.

 

[zang269]

I worry that time inquisitors are supposed to prevent subversion of the proper course of events

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Sort of? Canonically, the Ordo Chronos is supposed to be in charge of preventing anyone from going back in time, keeping the calendar straight in a universe where time is subjective and wonky, and preventing paradoxes. Subverting the course of events is fine, so long as you don't do it by travelling backwards to do so, and I don't think the Eldar were ever crazy enough to mess with that kind of technology.

 

[Mister Phantom]

Sort of? Canonically, the Ordo Chronos is supposed to be in charge of preventing anyone from going back in time, keeping the calendar straight in a universe where time is subjective and wonky, and preventing paradoxes. Subverting the course of events is fine, so long as you don't do it by travelling backwards to do so, and I don't think the Eldar were ever crazy enough to mess with that kind of technology.

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Then there is the little detail that all of them who directly dealt with temporal affairs vanished into thin air and the chronology group is in a civil war after the Great Rift over whether or not the date is 200 to 1000 years out of sync, potentially either way. My money is on not because of out of universe knowledge, but Guilliman's reaction to such a huge fuck up must have been something to behold.

 

[open_sketch]

No point lying, seeing as this man was probably one of the most informed people in the Imperium about this sort of thing. At the same time, volunteering excess information was never a good idea with Inquisitors.

"I received a prophecy, foretelling a new Black Crusade and it's success. I went into the underhive to retrieve someone who could pass the warning where it needed to go to hopefully avert the coming storm." you explained.

"... troubling. What was the nature of this prophecy? Who delivered it?" de Villarreal asked, head cocked curiously, the tiny dark camera eye flicking rapidly.

"I will be keeping specifics guarded for the moment to avoid tainting the reception of the information, but I will say that I have fair reason to believe it is credible." you said, "Furthermore, the nature of the warning is such that the harm of failing to respond would be far worse than responding unnecessarily."

The Inquisitor nodded slowly, putting a hand to his face, and you noticed him biting the tip of his thumb as he thought.

"This is consistent. Have you told your acolytes here?" he asked. You nodded, and he retrieved his strange device and leveled it to Bookter, reading it. "... curious."

"If you don't mind, what is that thing?" you asked. "I'm not particularly enthused about you pointing unknown objects at myself or my acolytes."

"It's... well, it's very old is what it is." he explained. "I'm not particularly comfortable with your answer, I'll admit. The nature of information from the future is fickle, and not to always be trusted. Doubly so if the teller are themselves untrustworthy."

"But if it's lighting up on me, doesn't that mean there is truth to the prophecy?" you asked, and he shook his head.

"Of course not! All it means is that somebody in possession of future information has influenced you in some way. A seer could foresee your fate if they lied to you, then tell you that lie about what they saw, for instance!" he said. "A machine like this would have no way to tell, which is why it is up to my judgement."

"I see." you said. "Will there be anything else?"

"I think there shall be, yes." de Villarreal said, clearly a bit irritated, "Atemporal information is dangerous, and the more specific it is, the more dangerous. I'm presuming there was witchcraft involved, given your order, so surely I do not need to warn you against the manipulation of the Void?"

"Of course not. The nature of this information makes that possibility much less likely." you said. From what you remembered Araleth saying about Farseers, there were few people in the galaxy better protected against such things, despite being psykers. "Furthermore, it would seem a somewhat counter-intuitive warning from our Enemy, don't you think?"

"Unless it was intended to discredit future warnings or somesuch." he said, but he nodded in what you presumed was agreement. "In any case, I think this has officially crossed from your jurisdiction to mine at this point, wouldn't you say?"

"I'm afraid I don't entirely know what your jurisdiction is." you confessed.

"That... is fair." he said, nodding. "Suffice to say matters of prophecy fall neatly inside them, however. I presume this is about one of the nobles you retrieved from the underhive? The Lord High Admiral's bastard, perhaps?"

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[ ] It is so.​

[ ] I cannot say.​

[ ] Write In​

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Quick context: The Inquisitor isn't calling Leo a bastard as an insult here. For political reasons, the Lord High Admiral's wife on this world is presented as just his favourite mistress. So the Inquisitor's not being mean, he just thinks he's being accurate to the situation.​

 

[FrangibleCover]

[X] It is so.

Look, we tried to screw the guy and he knew it was the Eldar anyway. He knows this too, I'm not going to fuck around lying to him.

 

[10ebbor10]

[ ] The severity of this matter is such that I am bound to see it through to it's completion. Time is short, we can not afford the delay inherent in an exchange of responsibility.

 

[Dark as Silver]

Look, we tried to screw the guy and he knew it was the Eldar anyway. He knows this too, I'm not going to fuck around lying to him.

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The prophecy being a result of pysker shenanigans is an easy guess in this setting. Apart from being "our order" its also probably the cause of a lot of his work.
He does not know we're in contact with the eldar, and if he has a way to know that Dalia is a psyker she's the obvious person to have foreseen it.

 

[FrangibleCover]

The prophecy being a result of pysker shenanigans is an easy guess in this setting. Apart from being "our order" its also probably the cause of a lot of his work.
He does not know we're in contact with the eldar, and if he has a way to know that Dalia is a psyker she's the obvious person to have foreseen it.

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"... A seer could foresee your fate if they lied to you, then tell you that lie about what they saw, for instance!"

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No, he knows. They're seers, we're psykers. The use of the term fate rather than future further indicates Eldar and the assumption that they're lying definitely says Eldar.

 

[Dark as Silver]

No, he knows. They're seers, we're psykers. The use of the term fate rather than future further indicates Eldar and the assumption that they're lying definitely says Eldar.

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I think seer is just a general term for someone who forsees the future. I'm not sure its species specific.
E: Alright so I think going by dictionary definition its ambigous but there may be a in universe distinction between elder seers and human diviners

Seer

A Seer is an Asuryani psyker who is currently following the Asuryani Path dedicated to the development and extensive use of the Aeldari's potent psychic powers beyond the innate psychic ability possessed by every Aeldari. Those who choose to augment their psychic abilities through the continual...

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Divination - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum

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[Grek]

Sketch? Does his use of the word seer suggest an awareness of the Eldar connection to Joanyn, or is that just us players jumping at shadows?

 

[open_sketch]

Sketch? Does his use of the word seer suggest an awareness of the Eldar connection to Joanyn, or is that just us players jumping at shadows?

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I had intended it to be slightly ambiguous as to how much he knows.

 

[Always Late]

[X] It is so.

The Ordo Chrono's awareness of Eldar Farseer shenanigans is sufficiently established, but there are other details of note. Details that make de Villarreal's opinion and course of action very explicit IMO.

"I will be keeping specifics guarded for the moment to avoid tainting the reception of the information, but I will say that I have fair reason to believe it is credible." you said, "Furthermore, the nature of the warning is such that the harm of failing to respond would be far worse than responding unnecessarily."

The Inquisitor nodded slowly, putting a hand to his face, and you noticed him biting the tip of his thumb as he thought.

"This is consistent.

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Note the specific response. "This is consistent." This makes me think de Villarreal is very experienced with Eldar manipulations, or perhaps extremely familiar with his Ordo's records of such things. So far everything we have gone through, and he knows all of it, fits into a conclusion he has drawn about such activity before coming here.

"It's... well, it's very old is what it is." he explained. "I'm not particularly comfortable with your answer, I'll admit. The nature of information from the future is fickle, and not to always be trusted. Doubly so if the teller are themselves untrustworthy."

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I would say this is as open a return of information as de Villarreal gets, as befitting us holding back alot of info from him. He's already got the memo that Eldar are very good lawyers in their scrying, and that there are many details and moving parts the bellicose and choleric theocratic military leaders of the Imperium rarely care about or even notice. This leads us into arguably what the most important part of this conversation is: What's de Villarreal's wish for Joanyn to do and what is his goal? The answer is twofold.

"I see." you said. "Will there be anything else?"

"I think there shall be, yes." de Villarreal said, clearly a bit irritated, "Atemporal information is dangerous, and the more specific it is, the more dangerous. I'm presuming there was witchcraft involved, given your order, so surely I do not need to warn you against the manipulation of the Void?"

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The choice to phrase the question from a more "Divination" perspective is ultimately defeated by the earlier use of "seer" giving away the Eldar connection, but it still works for the same reason Eldar Farseers have several rules of caution for their examination of the threads of fate.

It's not set in stone. Nothing ever is.

Combining de Villarreal's significant familiarity in Eldar warnings to the Imperium with the current events leads me to believe his goal is to ascertain the full picture of this warning. He doesn't believe it's fake, Eldar don't cry wolf when it comes to Chaos, but he wants to know how this proclamation affects Chaos, Eldar, and Human alike. An investigation that will take, pun intended, significant amounts of time. The nature of the danger often cannot be diminished, this is Warhammer after all, but what is a true danger and what is smoke and mirrors can be discerned with a fine enough comb.

"In any case, I think this has officially crossed from your jurisdiction to mine at this point, wouldn't you say?"

"I'm afraid I don't entirely know what your jurisdiction is." you confessed.

"That... is fair." he said, nodding. "Suffice to say matters of prophecy fall neatly inside them, however.

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This is the second thing I can fairly confidently say de Villarreal wants from us, and it neatly lines up with the first: We are to abandon any pursuit of the prophesy's details. Nor are we to try and 'hurry' anything we know along. In a sense, the question for whether the illegitimate son's involved is as much a second offer of trust as it is a final interview. De Villarreal's established he's not stumbled onto this blind. He knows almost all of what we know, if not everything, and is insisting on handling things his way. But he doesn't want to piss off a fellow Inquisitor on the eve of humanity's darkest hours since Horus slew the Emperor. And in a way, we can still have an impact on the investigation.

When I put this all together the choice to give or withhold information is, befittingly for an Eldar plotline, not remotely what it seems on the surface. If we want to make our own investigation and trust the Eldar sources alot more, put some pedal to the metal, then withdrawing now is our best option. But if we want to take the time to measure twice before a first cut, risking running out a semi-unknown timer, then offering the info now is the preferred course of action.

 

[Portec]

I am for "[] It is so. " but am not yet sure.

Praxis is (presumably) better at dealing with people and washing our hands of it is unstatisfying. But would a write-in be correct here in hashing out the comming joint operation be?

 

[silentorphan]

[x] I cannot say.

 

[Andmeuths]

[X] It is so.

What is exactly the case for "I cannot say" anyway? To me, that option reeks of protagonist syndrome.