Strange Aeons: A 40k Xeno Governor Quest

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I thought she was a tachyon expert.
Tachyon expert yes, but she has a sub level so to speak in computing. Her project is a tachyon computer after all.

@Leon12431 , didn't we already research osiris?
You have not as far as I am aware, it might have slipped through the cracks, but I am fairly sure that you haven't since his history is pretty interesting and I don't recall writing it out.
 
Killing of 3k CM would be massive, along with chaos losing a shipyard

Also would mean less CM with Archeotech weapons along with there ships during the 13th black crusade
Or the twelfth, which hasn't happened yet. Not to mention that, as stated, Divine Order would let us empower champions (such as, as a random example, any Living Saint using Divine Order is likely to summon as a byproduct) while debuffing the daemons and adding vulnerabilities to their immortality. Considering our best pokeballs could only probably hold a Favored Greater (and a normal Greater without risk of escape), empowering a Living Saint to True Kill literally any of the Honored Daemons would be a massive blow to Chaos.

btw @Leon12431 do we have an action for tracking down that Omega-Minus Blank? Or is that hardlocked behind getting a meta shield? And how expensive are meta shields with Favor?
 
btw @Leon12431 do we have an action for tracking down that Omega-Minus Blank? Or is that hardlocked behind getting a meta shield? And how expensive are meta shields with Favor?
Locked behind getting a meta shield because without one, it's a terrible terrible idea that Atraxas wont consider. Meta Shields fall under the Rush Order favor option in the trade listing. So 400 favor for one in two turns, you honestly can build one faster yourself now. But you do need to wait one turn before you can get the improved LM version, right now you only have one slot for the white and black lists of any that you build.

Also only Exalted daemons have Immunity traits, Honored can die to anything that can kill daemons.
 
but is there anything we can do to help with it when it happens or will us dealing with the massive chaos attack on our world along with deal with this warband help in that as abby will have less CM and ships to use?
Black Crusades are events where you can go and help yes, and are encouraged to do so if not under attack. Removing the Savagers will help slightly, but they and the other war bands outside the Eye are more helpful distractions than part of the Black Crusades as far as Abaddon is concerned.
 
Black Crusades are events where you can go and help yes, and are encouraged to do so if not under attack. Removing the Savagers will help slightly, but they and the other war bands outside the Eye are more helpful distractions than part of the Black Crusades as far as Abaddon is concerned.
Still removing one distraction while small is still good, but what about that massive chaos attack on our world? wont they come from the eye and mean less troopers and ship for Abby in his Crusades?
 
Only Exalted have proper immunity traits, but I distinctly recall you mentioning Honored as having Immunity-Lite due to being the lowest level of true god.
It's more that they tend to escape True Death more than they should, rather than nothing hitting them. Exalted cant be banished until they run out of power, Honored Daemons can be banished. Exalted cant be trapped, Honored can be bound. Exalted cant be wounded, Honored can be wounded.

Honored tend to just slip through things that should hit harder, but they still take damage.

Still removing one distraction while small is still good, but what about that massive chaos attack on our world? wont they come from the eye and mean less troopers and ship for Abby in his Crusades?
yes, that has altered Abaddon's plans and he is in damage control right now figuring out how this impacts his timeline.
 
It's more that they tend to escape True Death more than they should, rather than nothing hitting them. Exalted cant be banished until they run out of power, Honored Daemons can be banished. Exalted cant be trapped, Honored can be bound. Exalted cant be wounded, Honored can be wounded.

Honored tend to just slip through things that should hit harder, but they still take damage.
Well Order's anti-plot armor effect should still help there right?
 
Still killing of 3k CM along with there ships is still massive as CM are harder to make then nomal SM as chaos mess with the gene seed, and all those CM and ships that will attack us will hurt the forces of chaos for a long while as it will take a long time to replace those CM
 
Still killing of 3k CM along with there ships is still massive as CM are harder to make then nomal SM as chaos mess with the gene seed, and all those CM and ships that will attack us will hurt the forces of chaos for a long while as it will take a long time to replace those CM
Agreed.
Of course, it also sounds like the sort of expedition that it would be insanely useful to have Atraxas along for...

Has around 3k Chaos space marines from various Legions.
We have, IIRC, 12k soldiers in our Private Army.
Even with Harkar and Atraxas, it's going to be close.

Message for Atraxas; Sender Unknown
Dancing in the void arm in arm with two beings a fool twirls in their play, seeking to orchestrate events unknown covered in the blackest of veils with a skull upon their breast. The two believe each the one with the ear of the fool, but who knows the truth of the matter? Perhaps with the proper counter dance, one could rend the veil and unmask the fool.
We're going to need to put considerable thought into this.
We know Cegorach is sometimes "the fool" - and we're 98% sure he sent this message.
I don't have the 40k knowledge to recognize "covered in the blackest of veils with a skull upon their breast." Does anybody else?
 
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It's referring to an original character for that part, that I can confirm and that it's a human. Its not referring to the writer of the note with the riddle.
 
What are we going to do for more resources?

I think we should try making this:
"Singularity Wellspring (Learning): The chamber is ready to be expanded into a full Wellspring from which mountains of resources will be produced per decade. It might be but the smallest such unit as used upon the Homeworld, but for my purposes it is a near infinite supply akin to the Forge of Creation is for the Homeworld itself.
(Suspicion: 150) (Resources: 1000 Exatari Alloys) (DC: 250)
(Effect: increases production to 7500 Resources and 0 Alloys, in the future can be upgraded to a higher level of Wellspring. Atraxas will not dare to use this to shift his metaphysical nature due to unknown interference from the Forest and Black Hole. Will produce Unknown Laws 10, and 7 and Invoked Law Evolution at 1 per turn)"

And do the PR action, the Moriya action and a couple Astartes actions to lower the Suspicion. Contacting the Astartes and Moriya would also be good if we're planning on dealing with that Chaos warband anytime soon.
 
We're going to need to put considerable thought into this.
We know Cegorach is sometimes "the fool" - and we're 98% sure he sent this message.
I don't have the 40k knowledge to recognize "covered in the blackest of veils with a skull upon their breast." Does anybody else?
If this is at all cego related, the Fool might also refer to a Blank given Solitaires but the skull upon their breast brings to mind the Inquisition with their secrecy and badge
 
I will further state that the writer has nothing to do with the events implied. The terms used are more to inform who/what is writing it rather than implying much of note, and it is confirmed to be a human being referred to with this riddle.
 
@The Froggy Ninja, how many Exatari Alloys does your Planetary Meta Shield project need?

For context, I have a theoretical strategy that would cost 2 Actions on Turn 9, give us a slight Resource gain on Turn 9, and give us ~7k Resources per turn thereafter. It only works if we can put 295 Calc Hearts onto Planetary Acquisition, and that's a lot of Calc-Hearts...
 
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To quote Leon in the Discord:
1k Favor would provide around 500 hearts and 30k alloys

OH YES!!!

Psuedo-plan Robinton V0

This turn (turn 8) - take the necessary stuff. Avoid spending tons of Resources. Trade 1k Favor for ~500 Calculation Hearts and ~30k Exatari Alloys. Trade a dozen of those Calc-Hearts to our Archmagi in exchange for their Actions.
Next turn (turn 9) - two Atraxas Actions plus one Gravus Action equals one Barge; have the Calc Hearts spam Planetary Acquisition 4-5 times; we should get ~25 Planets per Acquisition completion for 100-125 Planets; we'll spend 6k and change Resources and get back 100*90=9000 Resources in Income (100 Income - 10 Upkeep = 90 Profit per planet). We also need to start Forge of War and a bunch of other prep actions.
The turn after (turn 10) - We can use the Calc-Hearts to make 2000-2500 progress on a single construction Action, and get an extra 9000 Resources in income! We'll finish Forge of War and other prep.
 
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Legend: d100 is exactly what it looks like; d100m10 is "roll a d100 and if it's less than 10 treat it as 10"; "success" is "odds of finishing this in the oncoming turn."

Robinton starting template
Calculation Hearts allocation: 3 to Atraxas; need to decide on other 7 (Balkavus isn't eligible; Harkar is on Assault and can't use one). I'm assuming we're handing one each to Urma and Nameria since they'll both get ~+2d100 out of it across the turn.
Mandatory:
-Tarakan Doctors - Urma 1st - DC 50 - 2d100+14 - 114.9 avg progress, 94.0% success
-Factory Investigation - Balkavus - 7 Suspicion - DC 162 - 1d100+11 - 61.6 avg progress, 0.0% success
-Rebuilding the Schools - Atraxas S - DC 257 - 4d100m10+45 - 249.3 avg progress, 44.8% success
-Nanoplague - Atraxas L, ask Vulka if she would like to help (ie: wouldn't cost a Favor; would likely yield less than a full Favor's worth of help but still some) - DC 462 - 10d100m10+53 - 563.4 avg progress, 87.3% success
-Study the Alloys - Atraxas P1, ask Gravus if he would like to work on this (ie: wouldn't cost a Favor; would likely yield less than a full Favor's worth of help but still some) - DC 317 - 10d100m10+53 - 563.5 avg progress, 99.8% success
Almost Mandatory:
-Contact the Homeworld - Atraxas P2 - 10 Resources - various trade goods including 30k Alloys and 500 Calculation Hearts for ~1k Favor - DC 5 - 1d100 - 50.5 avg progress, 96% success
--Maybe try to get 511 Calc-Hearts even if it costs an extra ~35 Favor? (This would let us sell to 10 Archmagi AND have easily enough left to 5x Planetary Acq next turn.) (5x Planetary Acq with 1 large-barge takes 490x5 DC, so 491 to guarantee success.)
--See The Froggy Ninja's notes on requirements here and here.
--Sell a pair of Calc-Hearts each to several prominent Archmagi (at minimum Sincratus, Quirana, Gravus, and Luraia)
--Non-Action - ask Quirana to train Atraxas in +1 Faith and Akiona in "as much Diplomacy as possible (you're allowed to take several turns if you need them and/or think it would be significantly more efficient)" - Next turn.
-Donate to the local Church - Nameria 1 of 3 - Resources 25, Suspicion -10 - DC 20
Time-sensitive:
-DAoT Vessel - Atraxas P3 and ??? - Resources 10
-Assault Warband - Atraxas M and Harkar and Nameria 2 of 3 and ??? - Resources ???
-Mesoplanet 05 - Atraxas P4 and ??? - 10 Resources - DC 50 - 1d100m10+53

So far, we're at 55+(AssaultWarbandCost) Resources used. We have 2 Atraxas Personal Actions, Atraxas Intrigue and Faith and Diplomacy, 1 Nameria Action, 1 Urma (Stewardship) Action, and our Intrigue and Diplomacy Advisor Actions left.

Probably the best bets in their categories:
-Improve the External Spynet - Atraxas I and Nameria - Resources 10, Suspicion 20 - DC 30 - 1d100m10+1d100+64 - 165.5 avg progress, 100.0% success
--2nd breakpoint - DC 90 - 1d100m10+1d100+64 - 165.6 avg progress, 97.6% success
--3rd breakpoint - DC 180 - 1d100m10+1d100+64 - 165.5 avg progress, 36.5% success
--4th breakpoint - DC 300 - 1d100m10+1d100+64 - 165.5 avg progress, 0.0% success
--The one big counter-argument I can think of is "wow that's a lot of suspicion for what it's giving us (considerable though that is)."
--I believe we can keep this active next turn. We should be guaranteed max=13 Suspicion cost, and with average=165 progress on this-turn we'll only have 4 Suspicion cost.
-Atraxas Faith and Nameria 3rd Action - I feel tempted to throw them both on "Learn about alien religions" for massive progress, since that's almost guaranteed to (effectively) autocomplete a future Action or two. But we could throw Atraxas on that and Nameria on Orphanages or some such? Or we could just avoid any Suspicion increases here. And, honestly, maybe we want Nameria in fewer Actions - or to put most of her efforts towards War this turn. Though, given the Orphanage Education rolls get penalized if Nameria is super-busy, we'd do well to give her as few Actions as possible...
-Sector Meeting - I'm saying (but you're welcome to disagree) Atraxas D and Akiona and Isha's Seed - Resources 5 - ???
-Deep Mining - Urma 2nd - Resources 25 - DC 75 - 2d100+14 - 115.0 avg progress, 82.3% success
--The best thing we can vaguely afford that Urma could reasonably accomplish this turn. I don't see anything that it would be good to get her started on early either, except maybe Cybernetic Clinics - and that seems like something that should wait for Study Harkar.

Now we're at 120+(Assault Warband Cost)+(Atraxas Faith)+(Nameria 3rd) Resources used. We have 2 Atraxas Personal Actions left.



Note for next turn, aka Turn 9:
  • We need to start Forge of War if we want it done by Turn 11. We need to do mostof our Invasion Prep this turn, actually.
    • Simulation Arrays! We could actually 1-turn Crucible of War on Turn 10 if we want to. And I'm starting to think we should.
  • FIX THE ECONOMY: For Resources, we should ensure we're succeeding at 5 full instances of Planetary Acquisition, by committing the Calculation Hearts. Then we'll commit 2 Atraxas Actions (and maybe a bit to spare?) on Planetary Barge (large variant), and wind up spending ~6.5k total Resources in exchange for 5 Actions * ~27 Planets per Action * 90 Resource Profit per Planet = ~12k Resources, for a total profit (this turn) of around 5.5k Resources (and around 12k each subsequent turn).
    • If we're willing to commit 5 Atraxas Actions we can reliably finish 2 Barges for (very slightly less than) double the profit.
    • With Simulation Arrays, this is massively simplified. One Atraxas Action should finish 2 Large Barges with room to spare, and our 5x Calc-Heart Stack should give us all the Resources we could use.
    • We could also grab Gravity as a 1-turn, with 8x Gravus and 1x Atraxas Learning.
    • Overall projection: Assuming Gravity gives a x1.5 bonus, 75 planets-per-Acq times 5 Acquisitions is 375 Planets. That's an initial-Turn profit of around 16,750 Resources, and a long-term profit of 33,750 Resources per Turn.
  • Anything we haven't taken of: Exoplanet 05, Golems, DAoT Ship, and Chaos Warband.
    • So Exoplanet 05, Golems, and DAoT Ship.
    • Also talk to Osiris, possibly.
  • We should probably put a single Action into Sincratus' Treatise on Biology, since that both buffs some of our future Actions and completes the Exatari Mission.
  • Non-Action - ask Quirana to train Atraxas in +1 Faith and Akiona in "as much Diplomacy as possible (you're allowed to take several turns if you need them and/or think it would be significantly more efficient)"
    • Really, we might be better off to give Atraxas +4 Faith to get to 20 Faith, depending on how things go. 20's the cutoff for getting +2d stat-bonus per Simulation Array (effective change: +10d per action currently, +12d in the future).
    • We might be able to sell additional Calc-Hearts - for her to resell/loan to her allies/minions - for a few more Favors if necessary?
  • Very good choices include: Talk to Archmagos Luraia Teral, Talk to Shezu, Akiona Mino's Augments.
  • Meta Flux - foundational tech, and a single Action should finish this plus the next 2 followups. We should have, at minimum, a ton of info to send back to the Homeworld, and we might have a good Resource/Alloy generator going.
  • Check with author for Exatari Homeworld progress on research, particularly Veil Physics. This should bonus success chance on The Veil Harvester and The Radiant Forge, plus some other things - it might give a bonus to the Information Library bonus.



There's a corner of my mind that wants to ask Gravus to spend his 8 Favors owed to us, plus we'd spend one Atraxas Action, and 2-turn Gravity. (Gravus with Calc-Hearts makes 6d100+50 progress per turn, +6d100 per additional Action. 8 Favors means 48d100+50 per turn, so he'd be making ~2474 progress per turn. Atraxas makes ~555 progress per turn. So we'd get cumulative (2474+555)*2 progress in 2 turns, or 6058 > 5000 progress.) I think this is probably a bit much, but I'm considering it.

I'm also considering seeing if any of the Archmagi would make sense to take on our expeditions - Leon said to "use common sense".

Leon has clarified that this is the Meet The Elves turn - it's listed as "Sector Meeting", and we need to decide whether to send (Akiona, Akiona and Atraxas, or Akiona and Atraxas and the Seed).
On the other hand, the Golems aren't time-sensitive. :)
On the downside again, Nameria should not be kept super-busy because that will impact her Orphanage Education work.
On the... interesting? side, Nameria could be put on the Exatari Religion action, but shouldn't unless we're fine with her likely realizing Atraxas is a xeno. Which might be fine or might be catastrophic; we don't know her well enough to say.
 
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