As I've suggested in earlier posts the Hull C design from Star Citizen would be perfect for us. When not in use the ship closes up so it can go faster but when carrying cargo both ends extend and cargo is then clamped to the outside

That's the ticket. You could even turn it into a budget liner by attaching habitat modules.

Or as any other container hauler load a whole host of specialized containers such as refrigeration, hazardous materials, tank modules, etc.
 
That's the ticket. You could even turn it into a budget liner by attaching habitat modules.

Or as any other container hauler load a whole host of specialized containers such as refrigeration, hazardous materials, tank modules, etc.
Yup cargo, people, fuel hell you could attach ships to the outside of it and bring them along. One of the best cargo haulers ever made in my opinion. And if we make different sized options for low medium heavy and super heavy cargo haulers we could probably eventually out haul the trade federation due to how cheap these things would be to make, especially compared to lucrehulks.
 
If we somehow manage to afford making capital ships how does making a Battlestar type of ship? All we need to do is take a standard star wars dreadnought and slightly upsize it and attach flight pods to it and boom a battleship/carrier.
 
Yup cargo, people, fuel hell you could attach ships to the outside of it and bring them along. One of the best cargo haulers ever made in my opinion. And if we make different sized options for low medium heavy and super heavy cargo haulers we could probably eventually out haul the trade federation due to how cheap these things would be to make, especially compared to lucrehulks.
I don't know that we could flat out replace Lucrehulks, given that their big draw was that attacking one as a pirate or slaver is a rather elaborate method of suicide.
 
So if we end up making a ship like the Hull-C, one thing should take priority besides the actual frame, which is shields. Given that the cargo would be completely exposed, and it would have to cover a ship that will extend to either double or triple its length, it seems important.
 
Yeah, but that's less of an issue when your clientele are megacorporations that at minimum all but own entire planets and even solar systems.
Yup but I could easily see this becoming one of the most used ships in mid rim and outer rim, especially in convoys and with escorts. And it just so happens we also want to make another great little escort/patrol ship to what are the chances 😉
 
I mean even if they only sell decently well when the time comes for the clone wars you can bet every single super and heavy freighter is going to be needed by every side so we could charge a hell of a premium. As so many people love to say logistics win wars, but crews that haul cargo in war time have to get payed a pretty penny and the bigger the boat the bigger the risk.
 
Yup but I could easily see this becoming one of the most used ships in mid rim and outer rim, especially in convoys and with escorts. And it just so happens we also want to make another great little escort/patrol ship to what are the chances 😉
Of course, there is a potential problem with using the Roci, namely that it's pretty similar in layout to CEC's DP20 Frigate, albeit a good bit smaller and cheaper.

Certain resemblance, isn't there?
 
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Of course, there is a potential problem with using the Roci, namely that it's pretty similar in layout to CEC's DP20 Frigate, albeit a good bit smaller and cheaper.

Certain resemblance, isn't there?
I see what ya mean but I feel that the dp20 would certainly trounce any Roci in a 1 on 1 fight being over double the length and size and if anyone asks why it looks the same well there is only so many ways to skin a sheep after all and when going for bare bones functionality this is the best shape in my mind

edit: if it becomes too much of a problem we could also buy the license for the dp20 too at a later date to appease (cough buy off cough) the Corellians
 
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Nothing against the layout of the Rocinante but I would think that all the hull integrity aka armour and internal partitions need to be strengthened and the outer hull could be freed up a bit from all the fiddly bits hanging around, because in an engagement or in extended space travels they are just asking to get blown off.
 
Nothing against the layout of the Rocinante but I would think that all the hull integrity aka armour and internal partitions need to be strengthened and the outer hull could be freed up a bit from all the fiddly bits hanging around, because in an engagement or in extended space travels they are just asking to get blown off.
the fiddly bits are the guns,, the bow mounted antnna and sensors which are about the same size they would be with star wars tech.
as for the internals they already would be different because of how much artificial gravity and inertial compenstators change how things would be laid out.
 
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the fiddly bits are the guns,, the bow mounted antnna and sensors which are about the same size they would be with star wars tech.
as for the internals they already would be different because of how much artificial gravity and inertial compenstators change how things would be laid out.
Good point with artificial gravity the internal structure of the roci will be simplified to a standard form. Also if we have the infrastructure to make it the Donnager class from the same series will be a welcome addition to our roster.
Fun fact a Donnager class ship can carry at maximum 6 roci type ships. Easy force multiplier for any system defense navy.
 
Good point with artificial gravity the internal structure of the roci will be simplified to a standard form. Also if we have the infrastructure to make it the Donnager class from the same series will be a welcome addition to our roster.
Fun fact a Donnager class ship can carry at maximum 6 roci type ships. Easy force multiplier for any system defense navy.
Yeah but if your straight up taking the Rocinante and Donnager by their sizes the Roci isn't even considered a Corvette in star wars and the Donnager would be a Medium Cruiser when in the Expanse it's considered a Battleship, Hell the Y-Wing is about half the size of the Rocinante and it's considered a fighter bomber. My point here is there's a reason why the wedge shaped design works so well for star wars ship combat as it allows a good amount of turbolasers to be fired at the enemy unless their behind the ship, plus ship combat is way different in the expanse compared to star wars.
 
Good point with artificial gravity the internal structure of the roci will be simplified to a standard form. Also if we have the infrastructure to make it the Donnager class from the same series will be a welcome addition to our roster.
Fun fact a Donnager class ship can carry at maximum 6 roci type ships. Easy force multiplier for any system defense navy.
i like that idea, would be a good cruiser for us to make and would stand out from most other contemporary designs. instead of banks of turbo lasers we could have two heavy turbo laser batteries where the rail-guns would be with each battery being 2 heavy turbo lasers. otherwise its armament would mostly be torpedo and missile salvos and fighter/escort craft it carries internally
 
Good point with artificial gravity the internal structure of the roci will be simplified to a standard form. Also if we have the infrastructure to make it the Donnager class from the same series will be a welcome addition to our roster.
Fun fact a Donnager class ship can carry at maximum 6 roci type ships. Easy force multiplier for any system defense navy.
would a donnagers weapeon layout even work though? while the republic would love the robust anti-fighter grid when the clone wars kick off the ship to ship loadout doesn't work like in the expanse.

Yeah but if your straight up taking the Rocinante and Donnager by their sizes the Roci isn't even considered a Corvette in star wars and the Donnager would be a Medium Cruiser when in the Expanse it's considered a Battleship, Hell the Y-Wing is about half the size of the Rocinante and it's considered a fighter bomber. My point here is there's a reason why the wedge shaped design works so well for star wars ship combat as it allows a good amount of turbolasers to be fired at the enemy unless their behind the ship, plus ship combat is way different in the expanse compared to star wars.
i'm planning on billing the Rocinate as a gunship or basicly a space torpedo boat that doubles as anti-fighter.


also i'm trying to find a ship pic with center line turrets but the only pics i'm having a hard time finding them.
 
Yeah but if your straight up taking the Rocinante and Donnager by their sizes the Roci isn't even considered a Corvette in star wars and the Donnager would be a Medium Cruiser when in the Expanse it's considered a Battleship, Hell the Y-Wing is about half the size of the Rocinante and it's considered a fighter bomber. My point here is there's a reason why the wedge shaped design works so well for star wars ship combat as it allows a good amount of turbolasers to be fired at the enemy unless their behind the ship, plus ship combat is way different in the expanse compared to star wars.
Star wars ship combat is more based on the big gun philosophy. The Empire in particular has ships that are design for destroying enemy ships. Which came at the cost at being vulnerable to star fighters such as the x wing and y wing.
 
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Yeah but if your straight up taking the Rocinante and Donnager by their sizes the Roci isn't even considered a Corvette in star wars and the Donnager would be a Medium Cruiser when in the Expanse it's considered a Battleship, Hell the Y-Wing is about half the size of the Rocinante and it's considered a fighter bomber. My point here is there's a reason why the wedge shaped design works so well for star wars ship combat as it allows a good amount of turbolasers to be fired at the enemy unless their behind the ship, plus ship combat is way different in the expanse compared to star wars.
the two universes do work differently but the basic functionality of the ships when slightly changed to incorporate star wars tech would be mostly the same. The Roci line of fast attack light Corvettes would be mostly for anti-fighter and missile and torpedo defense and picket duties. only rarely and in certain situations getting in and mixing it up with capital ships mainly through torpedoes and a very powerful engine, maneuvering system and ECM. The Donnager meanwhile could be a unique ship built for a certain purpose and do it very well and that purpose would be escort duties and convoy raiding in a actual war. Outfitted with large carrying capacity for a ship of its class, big engines and Outfitted with a pair of Heavy Cruiser guns and a lot of missile and torpedo's it would excel at protecting merchant convoys against any type of ship even up to star destroyer classes if working in pairs and behind the lines convoy raiding and hit and run tactics.
Edit: not to mention its superb and very robust point defense system that would make it suicide to attack with fighters and bombers.
 
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the two universes do work differently but the basic functionality of the ships when slightly changed to incorporate star wars tech would be mostly the same. The Roci line of fast attack light Corvettes would be mostly for anti-fighter and missile and torpedo defense and picket duties. only rarely and in certain situations getting in and mixing it up with capital ships mainly through torpedoes and a very powerful engine, maneuvering system and ECM. The Donnager meanwhile could be a unique ship built for a certain purpose and do it very well and that purpose would be escort duties and convoy raiding in a actual war. Outfitted with large carrying capacity for a ship of its class, big engines and Outfitted with a pair of Heavy Cruiser guns and a lot of missile and torpedo's it would excel at protecting merchant convoys against any type of ship even up to star destroyer classes if working in pairs and behind the lines convoy raiding and hit and run tactics.
Edit: not to mention its superb and very robust point defense system that would make it suicide to attack with fighters and bombers.
For the Roci line are you planning on scaling it up to star wars corvette size?
 
If we scale it up we can easily fit more weapons or room for cargo, hell we can probably fit a bigger engine and RCS system
 
the two universes do work differently but the basic functionality of the ships when slightly changed to incorporate star wars tech would be mostly the same. The Roci line of fast attack light Corvettes would be mostly for anti-fighter and missile and torpedo defense and picket duties. only rarely and in certain situations getting in and mixing it up with capital ships mainly through torpedoes and a very powerful engine, maneuvering system and ECM. The Donnager meanwhile could be a unique ship built for a certain purpose and do it very well and that purpose would be escort duties and convoy raiding in a actual war. Outfitted with large carrying capacity for a ship of its class, big engines and Outfitted with a pair of Heavy Cruiser guns and a lot of missile and torpedo's it would excel at protecting merchant convoys against any type of ship even up to star destroyer classes if working in pairs and behind the lines convoy raiding and hit and run tactics.
Edit: not to mention its superb and very robust point defense system that would make it suicide to attack with fighters and bombers.
maybe build it as carrier?
For the Roci line are you planning on scaling it up to star wars corvette size?
i was thinking we wouldn't. keep it small since its more meant to be a law enforcment vessel then a ship of the line.
 
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