Doctor Cid
Delurked on Jul 13, 2019.
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Did something screw with the voting tally? It looks like it registered the Bless Channelling votes as two separate things.
It means we're at an Akihiko level of knowledge. Make of that what you will.Edit: Unrelatedly, we've been as smart as Akihiko for awhile. So that means Ken works at a highschool level of knowledge yeah?
And also Morganna. So basically, a level of knowledge expected of us from a kid our age huh?It means we're at an Akihiko level of knowledge. Make of that what you will.
Given that Akira and Maiko, who don't have Persona, each have a social stat average of 2, I'd say we're more around middle school or High-schooler First-year level. I'd be willing to bet that Morgana is on the low end of the 'Knowledge 3' spectrum, while Akihiko is probably later on.And also Morganna. So basically, a level of knowledge expected of us from a kid our age huh?
Are you done being biased yet? The cast is being held back because of Evil Pun Man, not because they don't like SEES. And I bet you that if they were aware of the situation, then they would give all the help they could give that wouldn't end in Ikutsuki accelerating any timetables he has for the Fall.Why are so many people wanting to waste a vote on Masao Inaba? Persona 1/2 Cast won't help us. And it's not even that they can't help us. It's that they refuse to.
Biased? As if. If anyone's being biased it's you. The canon omake even points out that they want to do a stay back and observe type deal. They can't even tell that Ikutsuki is the guy they are looking for. Hell, if they met him I EXTREMELY doubt that they would figure it out.Are you done being biased yet? The cast is being held back because of Evil Pun Man, not because they don't like SEES. And I bet you that if they were aware of the situation, then they would give all the help they could give that wouldn't end in Ikutsuki accelerating any timetables he has for the Fall.
STAND BY and observe. Act if the situation calls for it. I wrote that canon omake, you know. I'm pretty sure that Seeker is the only one who can supersede me here. The way I wrote it, the moment things got out of hand for the P3 cast, the P1 and P2 casts would swoop in to assist. The reason they didn't act in the original timeline, but could be expected to here, are:Biased? As if. If anyone's being biased it's you. The canon omake even points out that they want to do a stay back and observe type deal. They can't even tell that Ikutsuki is the guy they are looking for. Hell, if they met him I EXTREMELY doubt that they would figure it out.
As for him accelerating his plans for The Fall? He needs P3 Protagonist. He can't even start them until he arrives.
After all, they did fuck all in the original timeline, what makes you think they'll get even a level of competency here?
They can't find that Ikutski is a bad egg. When it would be very obvious that something is up with him, if they actually bothered to check the fucking list of scientists that worked on Shadows. Seriously, the fact that they don't even choose the guy assigned to overlook SEES first, ya know the guy most likely to be able to pull the stuff he does, is a major red flag to me that they aren't anywhere near a level one can comfortably call competent. If they can't see that something is wrong with how SEES is being handled, I don't want them messing around with us, since they'll just fuck the group up even more if they even attempt an active role.STAND BY and observe. Act if the situation calls for it. I wrote that canon omake, you know. I'm pretty sure that Seeker is the only one who can supersede me here. The way I wrote it, the moment things got out of hand for the P3 cast, the P1 and P2 casts would swoop in to assist. The reason they didn't act in the original timeline, but could be expected to here, are:
A: In the original timeline, SEES had things well in hand, or at least weren't in so much danger that the P1/P2 casts felt the need to act.
B: Timeline shenanigans. My other canon omake confirmed that things in Persona 1 did not go how they should have - instead of five of the protagonists being ridiculously strong from the Snow Queen route when fighting Kandori, all six of the possible Snow Queen route protagonists were comparatively OP. That was because Lavenza didn't recreate the timeline perfectly.
Sorry for ranting. Not sorry for calling DarkKing out.
Oh yeah, and Adachi was so obvious in Persona 4. If Dojima had just done a little investigating, he would have seen how suspicious he was.They can't find that Ikutski is a bad egg. When it would be very obvious that something is up with him, if they actually bothered to check the fucking list of scientists that worked on Shadows. Seriously, the fact that they don't even choose the guy assigned to overlook SEES first, ya know the guy most likely to be able to pull the stuff he does, is a major red flag to me that they aren't anywhere near a level one can comfortably call competent. If they can't see that something is wrong with how SEES is being handled, I don't want them messing around with us, since they'll just fuck the group up even more if they even attempt an active role.
Adachi at least has the defense of something rather unbelievable outside a select few people without proof that the way he killed those two people is even possible.Oh yeah, and Adachi was so obvious in Persona 4. If Dojima had just done a little investigating, he would have seen how suspicious he was.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
The P1/P2 casts are genre savvy. They know that the obvious choice isn't always the correct one. In this case, the obvious choice is the correct one, but they don't know that for sure. They're looking for proof.
As for putting Ikutski in charge of SEES, that would be a good point... if Kei (And you could only really blame Kei for this, even if the blame was valid) was in charge of the Kirijo Group. But they're partners. Kei has to put some trust in Mitsuru's father here.
One last thing: maybe you shouldn't treat the casts as a collective? Sure, some of them like Kei, Lisa, or Reiji might want to stand back and let things happen, but others like Ulala, Maya, and, most importantly, Mark would readily go against Kei's orders if they felt it was needed.
I am not going to continue this. Not because you're right (you're not) but because I don't want to pollute the thread with more of your toxicity.Adachi at least has the defense of something rather unbelievable outside a select few people without proof that the way he killed those two people is even possible.
A genre savvy cast would also know not to discount the obvious choice though. And if Kei and his people were to ask SEES on their thoughts about Ikutsuki instead of looking at it in what they think is the right angle because seriously, look at the people that are working with SEES damnit, they have the easiest access to Persona stuff and would actually know what that stuff is, maybe they'd get a hint that hey, there's a lead here.
I'm not blaming Kei for putting Ikutsuki in charge. I'm blaming him for not getting a goddamned list of scientists that worked on the Shadows and instead trying to find some kind of phantom that isn't there.
Oh boy, a cast divided amongst themselves! One with quite powerful Personas too! Sparking involvement with only one part of the group and not the entire group totally won't end badly at all!
Seriously, The Answer shows that when a group of Persona Users do infighting, things can go bad quickly. I'd rather not be caught up in the middle of a fight between the Persona 1/2 Casts yet. Too squishy to live.
DIsagreeing with you and calling out the Persona 1/2 cast is not being toxic.I am not going to continue this. Not because you're right (you're not) but because I don't want to pollute the thread with more of your toxicity.