ApocalypticFish
Been reflecting lately.
Yeah, you've convinced me.
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Akira.
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Lavenza. (+Courage)
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Futaba and Kyouma.
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Shattered Justice (A Persona Quest)
- Thread starter SeekerofDreams
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[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Akira.
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Lavenza. (+Courage)
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Futaba and Kyouma.
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
...Okay, I'm going to need all you to look really closely at the magic section of the voting options and tell me what would happen if you tried sorting a tally with those options by line.
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Their
Yeah no, the vote tally is going to be really confused. Perhaps formatting things as a plan vote would work better? That would use the existing infrastructure in the tally program, and this is basically a plan vote anyway.
Asherterix
Out Exploring
- Location
- Approx. 15,396,300,000 miles away
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Akira.
-[X] Lavenza. (+Courage)
-[X] Futaba and Kyouma.
-[X] Akira.
-[X] Lavenza. (+Courage)
-[X] Futaba and Kyouma.
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
Here's the thing: The current format worked perfectly fine for years, because people were separating their votes properly. Then, around the PQ detour, it's like everyone spontaneously forgot what 'counted separately' meant.
I shouldn't have to change the way I count votes for people who used to be entirely capable of following instructions.
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Their
That's fair. I'm seeing:
Spend Time with Akira: 5
Spend Time with Lavenza: 5
Spend Time with Futaba and Kyouma: 4
Magic Practice, Kouha, with Makoto: 1
I think it's getting mostly confused by how Petroleum Medium formatted their vote (which happened to win), and then others copied it? Would the correct formatting for that vote be something like this?
Spend Time with Akira: 5
Spend Time with Lavenza: 5
Spend Time with Futaba and Kyouma: 4
Magic Practice, Kouha, with Makoto: 1
I think it's getting mostly confused by how Petroleum Medium formatted their vote (which happened to win), and then others copied it? Would the correct formatting for that vote be something like this?
My vote example (not counted) said:
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- Location
- Head in the clouds
Would you prefer votes like
[E]Spend Time With Friends:
-[E] Akira
-[E] Lavenza
-[E] Futaba And Kyouma
or
[E]Spend Time With Friends:
-[E] Akira
[E]Spend Time With Friends:
-[E] Lavenza
[E]Spend Time With Friends:
-[E] Futaba And Kyouma
I can adjust - just say what format you want.
[X] Group study session! (+Knowledge)
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Makoto-san and Aigis. (+Empathy)
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Fuuka-san and Yukari-san. (+Expression)
Knowledge is the lowest of our social stats on the character sheet
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Makoto-san and Aigis. (+Empathy)
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Fuuka-san and Yukari-san. (+Expression)
Knowledge is the lowest of our social stats on the character sheet
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SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
The second one, because that's the one that makes it possible to count individual items separately, like I said I was going to do in the post.
- Location
- Head in the clouds
Edits made and requested format noted for the future
AilingStar
Herald of the Cassowaries
- Location
- Not Australia
[X]Spend Time With Friends:
-[X] Akira
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Makoto-san and Aigis. (+Empathy)
[X]Spend Time With Friends:
-[X] Futaba And Kyouma
-[X] Akira
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Makoto-san and Aigis. (+Empathy)
[X]Spend Time With Friends:
-[X] Futaba And Kyouma
[X]Spend Time With Friends:
-[X] Akira
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Makoto-san and Aigis. (+Empathy)
[X]Spend Time With Friends:
-[X] Futaba And Kyouma
[Q]Spend Time With Friends:
-[Q] Koromaru
-[X] Akira
[X] Spend time with friends.
-[X] Makoto-san and Aigis. (+Empathy)
[X]Spend Time With Friends:
-[X] Futaba And Kyouma
[Q]Spend Time With Friends:
-[Q] Koromaru
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
Okay, I still had to count the Lavenza votes separately, but that's more manageable.
You'll focus on stuff tangentially related to your school, Makoto can focus on stuff tangentially related to his school, and maybe between the two of you there'll be no more unforeseen catastrophes.
-Vote Closed!-
You'll focus on stuff tangentially related to your school, Makoto can focus on stuff tangentially related to his school, and maybe between the two of you there'll be no more unforeseen catastrophes.
November 4-5, 2009
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
You visit Akira again the next day, because you can't think of anything better to do with yourself. The Dark Hour still exists, no one's really sure what comes next, and everyone else is busy with school, but at least you can be here and the only thing you have to worry about has already happened.
Lavenza must have had the same idea, because she arrives at the same time you do. She's holding a thermos that she claims is full of coffee from Chagall, so she must have been home at some point in the past two days, but you're not going to ask about that.
You also aren't going to ask whether the caffeine actually does anything for her. It's not something you're really interested in considering.
You don't need to ask why she's here. She announces it immediately. "I would like to inform the both of you that the Ice Raven from two days ago has been dealt with." She actually kept track of the prefix. You know Navigators can know what they are, but usually they just focus on the category. No one's going to test you on the multitudes of different types of Maya.
"Ice Raven?" Akira repeats. "Is that what it's called? How do you know that?"
"She just knows these things." The sooner you get him to acknowledge the potential futility of asking questions, the happier all of you will be.
...Also, there's a non-zero chance she killed the Raven herself. That's not something you want to go into in a hospital, though, even one where the Dark Hour is theoretically known about to some extent.
...You're going to need to ask what that extent is, eventually, aren't you?
Maybe it won't be relevant. No one's ended up here yet!
He pokes at his blanket. "So you did you know they were going to...?"
"I... had a suspicion." She takes a long swig from her thermos, and looks at neither of you for the whole duration. "Those who develop a Persona at an early age... tend not to come from the best upbringings."
You can't even argue with that. Mom did her best, but there's only so much one person can do. You don't know how old she was when she had you, but the lack of input from relatives who might or might not exist, as well as the scorn of your classmates' parents, gives you a few theories you've decided never to follow up on. Some things are just better left unknown.
One mental health crisis is enough.
You think, if you'd gone back a bit further in time, you would have tried to find a way to have both her and SEES in your life. You don't think you would have succeeded, knowing as little as you did, but you're sure you would have tried. It might have been the option that gave you your best possible childhood.
What the best possible childhood is for Akira is something you've never been able to figure out. Maybe, for him, it's something that's still attainable. You think you'd like that. "That makes sense. Happy kids don't need superpowers."
"Did you know it would happen that night?" Akira asks.
Lavenza doesn't answer. You aren't sure you want to think about what that could possibly mean. "Do you know how long you'll be staying here?"
"I don't know. I guess until they know what they want to do with me."
It's probably too late to ask for specifics about that. You're going to have to wait for someone to tell you outright. "Well... if you need help learning to use your Persona, you know where to go." You want to think he's not going to need to.
You know better than that.
You spend some time talking with him- and assuring him that missing a week of school won't hurt anything, Shinjiro-san skipped for a lot longer than that and still got mostly caught up eventually- before you and Lavenza leave together.
"It might be for the best that this happened now," She says. "Any earlier and he wouldn't be able to defend himself. Any later, and... he might have slipped through the cracks of whatever is brewing in the distance."
Best. Least worst. What's the difference?
So she feels it, too. Something big is coming.
Sometimes, you really hate being right.
Today, you're not going to worry about the future. Kyouma brought a camera to school, and he wants you and Futaba to do silly poses for him. You do a few just around the school, and then you decide you can do better than that, and head out to take pictures in town.
The whole time, he keeps rattling off terminology like 'half-stops' and 'exposure levels' and you have no idea what any of that means. You aren't sure he knows what it means, or if he's just repeating whatever he read in the instruction manual.
...You wonder if cameras work during the Dark Hour.
"So, what else are you going to do with this?" Futaba asks, handing him back the camera. "You going off to take pictures of cryptids?"
"Are there cryptids in Iwatodai?" Kyouma asks, which is actually a really good question.
...Also, the answer is yes. Or something close to it. It depends on how they're defining the term 'cryptid.'
But you can absolutely think of someone who would qualify.
[ ] Like Lavenza.
[ ] Like Elizabeth.
[ ] Like Aigis-san.
[ ] Like Morgana.
Lavenza must have had the same idea, because she arrives at the same time you do. She's holding a thermos that she claims is full of coffee from Chagall, so she must have been home at some point in the past two days, but you're not going to ask about that.
You also aren't going to ask whether the caffeine actually does anything for her. It's not something you're really interested in considering.
You don't need to ask why she's here. She announces it immediately. "I would like to inform the both of you that the Ice Raven from two days ago has been dealt with." She actually kept track of the prefix. You know Navigators can know what they are, but usually they just focus on the category. No one's going to test you on the multitudes of different types of Maya.
"Ice Raven?" Akira repeats. "Is that what it's called? How do you know that?"
"She just knows these things." The sooner you get him to acknowledge the potential futility of asking questions, the happier all of you will be.
...Also, there's a non-zero chance she killed the Raven herself. That's not something you want to go into in a hospital, though, even one where the Dark Hour is theoretically known about to some extent.
...You're going to need to ask what that extent is, eventually, aren't you?
Maybe it won't be relevant. No one's ended up here yet!
He pokes at his blanket. "So you did you know they were going to...?"
"I... had a suspicion." She takes a long swig from her thermos, and looks at neither of you for the whole duration. "Those who develop a Persona at an early age... tend not to come from the best upbringings."
You can't even argue with that. Mom did her best, but there's only so much one person can do. You don't know how old she was when she had you, but the lack of input from relatives who might or might not exist, as well as the scorn of your classmates' parents, gives you a few theories you've decided never to follow up on. Some things are just better left unknown.
One mental health crisis is enough.
You think, if you'd gone back a bit further in time, you would have tried to find a way to have both her and SEES in your life. You don't think you would have succeeded, knowing as little as you did, but you're sure you would have tried. It might have been the option that gave you your best possible childhood.
What the best possible childhood is for Akira is something you've never been able to figure out. Maybe, for him, it's something that's still attainable. You think you'd like that. "That makes sense. Happy kids don't need superpowers."
"Did you know it would happen that night?" Akira asks.
Lavenza doesn't answer. You aren't sure you want to think about what that could possibly mean. "Do you know how long you'll be staying here?"
"I don't know. I guess until they know what they want to do with me."
It's probably too late to ask for specifics about that. You're going to have to wait for someone to tell you outright. "Well... if you need help learning to use your Persona, you know where to go." You want to think he's not going to need to.
You know better than that.
You spend some time talking with him- and assuring him that missing a week of school won't hurt anything, Shinjiro-san skipped for a lot longer than that and still got mostly caught up eventually- before you and Lavenza leave together.
"It might be for the best that this happened now," She says. "Any earlier and he wouldn't be able to defend himself. Any later, and... he might have slipped through the cracks of whatever is brewing in the distance."
Best. Least worst. What's the difference?
So she feels it, too. Something big is coming.
Sometimes, you really hate being right.
Today, you're not going to worry about the future. Kyouma brought a camera to school, and he wants you and Futaba to do silly poses for him. You do a few just around the school, and then you decide you can do better than that, and head out to take pictures in town.
The whole time, he keeps rattling off terminology like 'half-stops' and 'exposure levels' and you have no idea what any of that means. You aren't sure he knows what it means, or if he's just repeating whatever he read in the instruction manual.
...You wonder if cameras work during the Dark Hour.
"So, what else are you going to do with this?" Futaba asks, handing him back the camera. "You going off to take pictures of cryptids?"
"Are there cryptids in Iwatodai?" Kyouma asks, which is actually a really good question.
...Also, the answer is yes. Or something close to it. It depends on how they're defining the term 'cryptid.'
But you can absolutely think of someone who would qualify.
[ ] Like Lavenza.
[ ] Like Elizabeth.
[ ] Like Aigis-san.
[ ] Like Morgana.
- Location
- Head in the clouds
Oh this is a tough one - Who do we want the kids to meet?
If possible Futaba's mother is someone I'd like to finally meet so we can maybe get things such that when she inevitably goes to deep in her research there's more support for Futaba.
If possible Futaba's mother is someone I'd like to finally meet so we can maybe get things such that when she inevitably goes to deep in her research there's more support for Futaba.
- Location
- Head in the clouds
[X] Like Elizabeth.
Because it'd be funny.
Because it'd be funny.
- Location
- Indonesia
That is pretty obvious, isn't it? Aigis is just a robot, Morgana is a cat during the daytime, and Elizabeth is just a bit too crazy for the kids to interact with.
My vote:
[X] Like Lavenza.
My vote:
[X] Like Lavenza.
Asherterix
Out Exploring
- Location
- Approx. 15,396,300,000 miles away
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] Like Lavenza.
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
An important lesson will be learned today.
Specifically, Kyouma will learn that people his theoretical age can be cryptids. I'm sure this won't have any repercussions whatsoever.
-Vote Closed!-
Specifically, Kyouma will learn that people his theoretical age can be cryptids. I'm sure this won't have any repercussions whatsoever.
Small but Deadly
New
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
"There's Lavenza." You say the words without thinking, because that's always just been how your mind sorts her. You just don't know how else to describe people who come out of walls.
Futaba rolls her eyes. "Just because she isn't around that much doesn't mean-"
"She's the one who wrecked Paulownia Mall." You hadn't said anything about it at the time because... well, because the whole thing felt really weird to you. Even your friends who know that the word 'Persona' is something more than a concept in a book might not be ready for the understanding of how strong she is. "She just... appeared in the middle of it, and it was gone five minutes later."
You can't even be sure it's an exaggeration. She was done by the time the combat team left Club Escapade, and you all got home with plenty of Dark Hour to spare. You want to say it took a little longer than that, but that might just be you being in denial for the sake of your sanity.
Kyouma looks down at his camera, and back to you. "Wait, but isn't your friend our age?"
In theory. In practice, she hasn't actually changed in appearance since you met her.
You don't think Kyouma's ready to tackle the reality of immortals just yet. Or beings close enough to it that the distinction doesn't really matter. "That's what's so different about her." If he asked her if she was human, you really don't think she'd lie. "And, unlike Bigfoot, she'll pose for pictures."
You wonder if this was a mistake. If maybe watching Kyouma's eyes light up as he runs off to the mall is your sign that you should do something to stop him.
...It's probably fine.
When you get to school on Monday morning, it's announced that Oyama-chan's father has Apathy Syndrome. You don't really know what to do about that, so you're trying not to think about it. You have other things to worry about, like most of SEES being gone on a school trip next week, so they want to take a look at Tartarus before that. Or how Akira won't be leaving the hospital until the week after that, for reasons no one's quite managed to explain to you.
Or how Aigis-san is insisting one of Makoto-san's school friends is nothing but trouble, but that doesn't have anything to do with you, really.
None of it is something you can do anything about. You wish you could, because then it'd feel less like you're waiting for something.
If nothing else, you at least wish you knew what you were waiting for. Maybe then you'd know what the right thing to do during the wait is. (Pick up to three. This IS NOT a plan vote. Votes formatted as such WILL NOT be counted.)
[ ] Spend time with friends.
-[ ] Oyama-chan.
-[ ] Aigis-san.
-[ ] Kyouma and Lavenza.
-[ ] Mitsuru-nee and Akira.
-[ ] Akihiko-san and Shinjiro-san.
-[ ] Makoto-san and Elizabeth.
-[ ] Futaba, Morgana, and Koromaru.
[ ] Maybe you should read some books.
-[ ] About the moon. (+Knowledge)
-[ ] About music. (+Expression)
[ ] Practice magic.
-[ ] Zio.
--[ ] By yourself.
--[ ] With Akihiko-san.
-[ ] Kouha.
-[ ] Psi.
--[ ] By yourself.
--[ ] With Lavenza.
Futaba rolls her eyes. "Just because she isn't around that much doesn't mean-"
"She's the one who wrecked Paulownia Mall." You hadn't said anything about it at the time because... well, because the whole thing felt really weird to you. Even your friends who know that the word 'Persona' is something more than a concept in a book might not be ready for the understanding of how strong she is. "She just... appeared in the middle of it, and it was gone five minutes later."
You can't even be sure it's an exaggeration. She was done by the time the combat team left Club Escapade, and you all got home with plenty of Dark Hour to spare. You want to say it took a little longer than that, but that might just be you being in denial for the sake of your sanity.
Kyouma looks down at his camera, and back to you. "Wait, but isn't your friend our age?"
In theory. In practice, she hasn't actually changed in appearance since you met her.
You don't think Kyouma's ready to tackle the reality of immortals just yet. Or beings close enough to it that the distinction doesn't really matter. "That's what's so different about her." If he asked her if she was human, you really don't think she'd lie. "And, unlike Bigfoot, she'll pose for pictures."
You wonder if this was a mistake. If maybe watching Kyouma's eyes light up as he runs off to the mall is your sign that you should do something to stop him.
...It's probably fine.
When you get to school on Monday morning, it's announced that Oyama-chan's father has Apathy Syndrome. You don't really know what to do about that, so you're trying not to think about it. You have other things to worry about, like most of SEES being gone on a school trip next week, so they want to take a look at Tartarus before that. Or how Akira won't be leaving the hospital until the week after that, for reasons no one's quite managed to explain to you.
Or how Aigis-san is insisting one of Makoto-san's school friends is nothing but trouble, but that doesn't have anything to do with you, really.
None of it is something you can do anything about. You wish you could, because then it'd feel less like you're waiting for something.
If nothing else, you at least wish you knew what you were waiting for. Maybe then you'd know what the right thing to do during the wait is. (Pick up to three. This IS NOT a plan vote. Votes formatted as such WILL NOT be counted.)
[ ] Spend time with friends.
-[ ] Oyama-chan.
-[ ] Aigis-san.
-[ ] Kyouma and Lavenza.
-[ ] Mitsuru-nee and Akira.
-[ ] Akihiko-san and Shinjiro-san.
-[ ] Makoto-san and Elizabeth.
-[ ] Futaba, Morgana, and Koromaru.
[ ] Maybe you should read some books.
-[ ] About the moon. (+Knowledge)
-[ ] About music. (+Expression)
[ ] Practice magic.
-[ ] Zio.
--[ ] By yourself.
--[ ] With Akihiko-san.
-[ ] Kouha.
-[ ] Psi.
--[ ] By yourself.
--[ ] With Lavenza.