In someway that make it sound even worse, like you would be kicking us when we are already down. I suppose it's just cause we have't seen the bad guys actually take a major loss yet. There plans got screwed but none of them died yet where as on our side our parent died and they got away with it.
Second Life Begin Again (A Naruto Reincarnation Quest)
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But that was outside of your control.
I remember people voting for a perticular action that gave control to Atlas and I gave a warning that it would timeskip over.
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I'm not trying to dogpile you, but I really disagree with your assessment of our progress so far. So far, every member of the Akatsuki is someone who already became a member in the OTL, except for Tsunade and Danzo. The tradeoff between Tsunade and Orochumaru is a definite question mark, but Danzo being outside of Leaf and not inside is a major win.
Minato and Kushina are alive. They are S-Rankers in their own right, and will ensure that Naruto gets real training and doesn't start off so under-trained and uniformed that he doesn't know what chakra is.
The Uchiha massacre is now up in the air if it happens or not, but my guess is it doesn't happen, at least not the way it did in the OTL. Remember, if we keep them all alive, we get the most broken eyeballs to ever exist.
Hiashi will be substantially nicer towards Hinata, so she probably starts off stronger. We will take good care of Neji, so he starts off as less of an asshole.
Tsunade is really the only front where we aren't substantially better off compared to canon.
Yes and it would nice if our enemy were subjected to the same but they will never truly be.
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Eventually, eventually... You can give them a very good ass kicking.
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That's not what he's talking about, it almost seems like you're being deliberately obtuse at this point.
What does this even mean? Are you trying to say that nothing we do matters and that only Naruto can do anything? Cause that seems like the only thing I can take from this.
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I really don't like our odd against a full powered Nagato with only hygua genetics and possible sage mode. It would ne nice if they were subjected to rolls such as that nine tails one where if they don't roll high enough they can die and it be out of their control and something compeletly unrelated to us but I am not sure if that's in the cards.
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@Magoose, don't sweat it too much. They're just have Sage of Eyes flashbacks. If ever there were a QM that purposefully trolled their questors it was Sage of Eyes. They're actually noted for cursing the dice because the dice typically BS roll nat 100's just to counter their unachievable DCs. And they frequently admit that the players weren't supposed to succeed several roles. In fact it got so bad at one point they actively dismissed successful roles simply because it wasn't what they wanted. And then had the gall to tell players that their character's failure was meant to happen, and that victory just wasn't possible no matter how well the character rolled.
So, when questors see bad things happen after good results... the player's first instinct is "OH GAWD! ANOTHER SAGE." No, mind, the only other quest that I've followed for any great length is your Star Wars librarian quest, and looked at a few others. So I can say with some amount of confidence that you do not, in fact, try to screw over the players. With the dice at least. New ideas, or creative interpretation of dice rolls... is debatable if it's meant to screw over the questors or trying to keep the quest more interesting than a rolf stomp. Which, as you can see, some people actually want a sense of accomplishment which a rolf stomp would provide.
So, when questors see bad things happen after good results... the player's first instinct is "OH GAWD! ANOTHER SAGE." No, mind, the only other quest that I've followed for any great length is your Star Wars librarian quest, and looked at a few others. So I can say with some amount of confidence that you do not, in fact, try to screw over the players. With the dice at least. New ideas, or creative interpretation of dice rolls... is debatable if it's meant to screw over the questors or trying to keep the quest more interesting than a rolf stomp. Which, as you can see, some people actually want a sense of accomplishment which a rolf stomp would provide.
No... he's just fed up with the two of you demanding to have it your way, so he's blatantly misinterpreting what both of you are screeching.
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First I'm just gonna go ahead and say I've never played a sage quest (although having read them after the fact I would say your description is accurate) but more importantly
Are you saying that in what is ostensibly supposed to be a tabletop (style) RPG, players actually want to feel like their choices matter and accomplish something? Well how about that, what a novel idea. Either way nobody is asking for a "rolf stomp" I at least am asking for or succes and just choices in genral to matter and not be imediatly countered/reset
1) Why you dissing on our Hyuuga-ness? Our eye balls are THE BOMB. Definitevely better than the Sharingan until Mangekyo, and then it becomes questionable because our eyes are still better at being eyes but they get some wierd side abilities. What's more, Full Power Nagato is something, but he isn't everything. Canon Itachi could have probably stood a good chance against him, given how Hanzo faired.
What's more, why do you think that would be all we have in our arsenal? We have A SHIT TON of neat tricks we can pick up to trick us out.
2) From the looks of things, they are. Anyone who was in the hidden leaf could have died that day (except Obito, he had Plot Armor), and the Akatsuki had to roll to recruit people, a roll that had a 50/50 chance on most of them.
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How can we trust anything you do "offscreen", I mean good god you admit to pre-writting multiple updates in advance which to me doesn't seem possible in an actual quest unless you have pre-chosen how everything will go regardless of player choices or "rolls".
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Good night. I have no energy to argue with people. If you wish to call me a bad QM, or DM who should stop with this, thats fine.
I have planned the entire story out, but seeing as my contract with the person who asked me to write it was completed, I have no reason to continue this quest.
I am doing it out of my own enjoyment.
I have planned the entire story out, but seeing as my contract with the person who asked me to write it was completed, I have no reason to continue this quest.
I am doing it out of my own enjoyment.
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Never made it past the second update of Sages first quest so all I have to go is what your are saying. I mean main problem with this could be stemming from the idea of the akatsuki as a whole in naruto canon and me just not wanting to see them get as successful as they did in canon.
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Just because they got many of the members they got in canon does not mean they will get everyone.
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Well they have so far so...?
Also why are you making it difficult/hard, the difficulty chosen was...
[]Medium: You look for a challenge in all things, and you want this to be enjoyable, and fun. (For wanting an average experience)
not...
[]Hard: You want a challenge that will test your limits, so you can go beyond the impossible. (You want to be challenged, every decision counts)
...seems to me like you forgot the choice you offered (and was chosen by the voters) in the begining regarding the difficulty of the game.
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... You've... never read the manga... or watched the anime .... or read a fanfic of Naruto; have you? Because... if you had, you would know that this is medium difficulty. Canon Naruto starts on hard, and climbs to "You Damned" by the end of Shipuden(sp?) before getting nerfed down to medium for Boruto.
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so ... nothing for that 69 roll? did he bring wood puppets for everyone to play with (one waterproof)? +10 to all Akatsuki rolls due to "relief"
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Did Kumo succeed in kidnapping baby hinata or something?
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Ah, they successfully sold her on that. Makes sense. They conveniently failed to mention ripping her loved ones from the pureland (or whatever the afterlife is called in Naruto) is something the dead don't like and that they always want to return.
Doesn't Orochimaru know how to do that too though? Or does he not know it at this point in the timeline?
Would be an interesting plot to have Orochimaru trying to bring them back to life to force Tsunade to come back.
Edit: Thanks for this clarification. I've got no objections to this situation now.
Might have gone over better if there was some indication of Danzo (or Zetsu) being the driving factor of the change. If the world doesn't revolve around us, then things shouldn't be too changed without something driving the change that was changed from Canon.
Now that Danzo is out and about though that's generally an excuse for lots of things to happen.
Fuck Danzo.
Curious what lies he spun to convince Pein to not kill him.
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I'd hope Kumo wouldn't be that dumb. That would mean War, and our village is A LOT better off than it was in canon.
...? When has that ever been the case? The only times I can recall them not enjoying the reincarnation, it is explicltly because they are then mind-controlled and forced to do things they really would rather not.
Well, a lot of stuff could butterfly from our contact with Kakashi, since that lead to an encounter with Obito, and everything THAT changed.
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No.so ... nothing for that 69 roll? did he bring wood puppets for everyone to play with (one waterproof)? +10 to all Akatsuki rolls due to "relief"
no. That hasn't even happened yet. We still have like a year before that happens. If it even happens.
Butterfly effect yo.
Six paths is bullshit and getting close to fight them is a very bad idea which is kind of what the Hyuuga style is built around.
Because I fully expect to have to fight them when we reach the age of like 10 cause rpnjesus is a fickle being.
Failure to recruit just result in that tho, failure to recruit. They can grab literally any other blood thirsty freaks of nature to replace any canon members. Don't even compare that to the Kyyubi incident.
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I've woken up because my brother won't shut up or turn down his Dwarf Fortress game.
Apologies in advance for this seeming very... angry sounding. I am not in the best of moods.
This is my medium difficulty.
I know why, as people know what I do for medium difficulty.
People who have read the last quest: Silent Second Life knows what I'm capable of doing on medium difficulty. It's hard, but not impossible, in fact after a certain point in that quest, things got very very easy when you've leveled up in badass, and could survive the shit I throw at you.
Sure the MC, her friends, and classmates got kidnapped by Madara Uchiha and only barely escaped capture by way of the choices they made all the way from the first update... But you all survived and became stronger for it.
I'm asking you for a moment to think about this:
What if I really had no intention of allowing you to survive, to do nothing except things that are against your self (and therefor quest) interest. What if, I was a bloodthirsty sadist who did nothing more then to make the MC and everyone they care about suffer, in horrible, horrendous ways.
What if I had Madara Uchiha kidnap you, but instead of giving you the chance to escape, I forced Zetsu crap down your throat to make it impossible to escape barring an impossibly lucky roll that has almost no chance of happening.
Do you people think this quest is hard?
I can make things very hard.
I may sound angry over text, but I'm not. I'm just exhausted and frankly kinda bummed out that people think I'm a hack and may feel rightfully angry that I'm not handing over the win or instant victory, or making things easier for them like they earned it or they keep asking me to lower the difficulty because people do not like how the bad guys seem insurmountable to a 6-year-old, even for one as smart and talented as our boy.
Now excuse me, I'm going to yell at my brother to wear headphones so that I can go to sleep.
Apologies in advance for this seeming very... angry sounding. I am not in the best of moods.
If it were my hard difficulty, there would be a chance where Kyuubi killed everyone in the village.
No one has ever chosen my Impossible or hard difficulty options.
This is my medium difficulty.
I know why, as people know what I do for medium difficulty.
People who have read the last quest: Silent Second Life knows what I'm capable of doing on medium difficulty. It's hard, but not impossible, in fact after a certain point in that quest, things got very very easy when you've leveled up in badass, and could survive the shit I throw at you.
Sure the MC, her friends, and classmates got kidnapped by Madara Uchiha and only barely escaped capture by way of the choices they made all the way from the first update... But you all survived and became stronger for it.
I'm asking you for a moment to think about this:
What if I really had no intention of allowing you to survive, to do nothing except things that are against your self (and therefor quest) interest. What if, I was a bloodthirsty sadist who did nothing more then to make the MC and everyone they care about suffer, in horrible, horrendous ways.
What if I had Madara Uchiha kidnap you, but instead of giving you the chance to escape, I forced Zetsu crap down your throat to make it impossible to escape barring an impossibly lucky roll that has almost no chance of happening.
Do you people think this quest is hard?
I can make things very hard.
I may sound angry over text, but I'm not. I'm just exhausted and frankly kinda bummed out that people think I'm a hack and may feel rightfully angry that I'm not handing over the win or instant victory, or making things easier for them like they earned it or they keep asking me to lower the difficulty because people do not like how the bad guys seem insurmountable to a 6-year-old, even for one as smart and talented as our boy.
Now excuse me, I'm going to yell at my brother to wear headphones so that I can go to sleep.
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It's bull-shit, but not THAT bullshit. Honestly, some Mangekyo Sharingans are more bullshit.
Why is close combat with them bad? Only the Deva and Preta paths have powers that would make that tough, and they are still dealable. What's more, Hyuuga are more than capable of using their style at range.
Failure to recruit could have resulted in more. They DO come to blows with the people who say no, after all. And if the fight went badly, they could suffer loses.
It is a situation in which the outcome is entirely decided by dice. That is what you wanted, and so it IS an apt comparison.