(You can see 360 around you, your current range is twenty-seven miles.+30 to dodge rolls if the person is not in your blind spot.)
... DAMN, way to go dad.
Rank: Clan Member. Civilian, Genin (Retired)
Huh, surprising mom never went higher.
Also evolution to Rinnegan...that is even more unfair. Tensaigan was really powerful, but the Hyuuga clan can't achieve it, only Otsutsuki can. ...TO HELL WITH THIS UNFAIR NONSENSE
TBF, the Uchiha also can't get the Rinnegan. Only the Senju can. They gotta get Senju Goodness injected into them, like how the Hyuuga need Otsutsuki goodness.
Yeah, the Hyuga's overreliance on the traditional techniques instead of branching out into more... bib traditional roleas have caused them to become very weak compared to the Uchiha. Still strong, but not as adaptable.

Edit: Hopefully, you can change things.
While the Hyuga are certainly mainly melee, I'd think there would certainly be branch members making the most of the various other facets of the Byakugan. Like a Weird Cousin Mark, someone who is thought strange for eschewing the family's martial art for the Bow. Something that would get him strange looks, and maybe shunned from the tea parties, but still very much part of the clan. I mean, there are a few hundred Hyuuga, just a couple doing more doesn't seem too unlikely.

Especially since, I'd imagine that back during the Warring States period, they wouldn't have teh luxury of over relying on tradition. Back then things were BRUTAL, taking advantage of everything you could (sniping someone from miles away, unblockable genjutsu, etc) seems like stuff they'd be totally utilizing, even if they fell out of favor since the world became relatively peaceful.
 
. DAMN, way to go dad.
He's better then Hiashi, at least range wise.
Huh, surprising mom never went higher.
I really don't know what to say about that other then... she just didn't want to go any higher.
While the Hyuga are certainly mainly melee, I'd think there would certainly be branch members making the most of the various other facets of the Byakugan. Like a Weird Cousin Mark, someone who is thought strange for eschewing the family's martial art for the Bow. Something that would get him strange looks, and maybe shunned from the tea parties, but still very much part of the clan. I mean, there are a few hundred Hyuuga, just a couple doing more doesn't seem too unlikely.

Especially since, I'd imagine that back during the Warring States period, they wouldn't have teh luxury of over relying on tradition. Back then things were BRUTAL, taking advantage of everything you could (sniping someone from miles away, unblockable genjutsu, etc) seems like stuff they'd be totally utilizing, even if they fell out of favor since the world became relatively peaceful.
I mean currently.

Everyone does something else, but not to the level of "Damn... we should really try that out for everyone."

No one has been that skilled.
 
I actually consider the Hyuuga to have the potential to be one of the potentially most devastating Clans up close and personal. The Gentle Fist alone makes them beasts but combine that with dual wielding swords or Trench Knives which would go better together with the style and they become deadly.

Full 360° vision with no obstacles, a fluid combat style and skill at locking down an opponent's chakra system? That's already fairly OP. Add a slashing weapon to that and they become a literal meat grinder on the field with enough speed and strength.
 
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I mean currently.

Everyone does something else, but not to the level of "Damn... we should really try that out for everyone."

No one has been that skilled.
That seems odd. Even if they were super amazing jounin level, the rest of the clan just doesn't NEED it, which should be more than enough explanation for why it hasn't been massively adopted. Plus, well, Super Archer vs Gentle Fist? Gentle Fist wins. Super Genjutsu vs Gentle Fist? Gentle Fist wins. So "obviously" Gentle Fist is the better option.

Ninja tend to be good at what they do, you really don't need to knee cap Weird Cousin Mark and stop him from being ninja good at his trade.
I actually consider the Hyuuga to have the potential to be one of the potentially most devastating Clans up close and personal. The Gentle Fist alone makes them beasts but combine that with dual wielding swords or Trench Knives which would go better together with the style and they become deadly.

Full 360° vision with no obstacles, a fluid combat style and skill at locking down an opponent's chakra system? That's already fairly OP. Add a slashing weapon to that and they become a literal meat grinder on the field with enough speed and strength.
The blade literally does nothing for them. Their fingers are as lethal as they need to be. Tap someone's heart, and boom, dead. Tap their head, boom, dead. Tap their neck, boom, about to be dead (from the stopped blood-flow).

Plus... it seems like they would have an exceptionally easy time picking up Chakra Scalpels. That is almost literally what they're doing anyways, so if they wanted to make actual cuts rather than just blowing up their chakra points they can.
 
I actually consider the Hyuuga to have the potential to be one of the potentially most devastating Clans up close and personal. The Gentle Fist alone makes them beasts but combine that with dual wielding swords or Trench Knives which would go better together with the style and they become deadly.

Full 360° vision with no obstacles, a fluid combat style and skill at locking down an opponent's chakra system? That's already fairly OP. Add a slashing weapon to that and they become a literal meat grinder on the field with enough speed and strength.
Yeah, ninja weapons still mean something in this setting, even if the only person seen using it is Tenten so...

Okay sorry, bad joke. Tenten doesn't deserve any of what Kishimoto did to her.

So to my point: Shuriken, kunai, senbon, wires. All of them are dangerous weapons that can kill a person, even an elite if you know how to use them right. Hell, Minato relied on marked kunais to perform his Flying Raijin technique and Sarutobi had a Shadow Shuriken technique that would kill anybody when he was in his prime.
The point is: weapons matter (as seen in part 1) and anyone could benefit from having them, even mister broken himself Madara Uchiha.
The blade literally does nothing for them. Their fingers are as lethal as they need to be. Tap someone's heart, and boom, dead. Tap their head, boom, dead. Tap their neck, boom, about to be dead (from the stopped blood-flow).

Plus... it seems like they would have an exceptionally easy time picking up Chakra Scalpels. That is almost literally what they're doing anyways, so if they wanted to make actual cuts rather than just blowing up their chakra points they can.
Good point, but my point still stands that a ninja needs these kids of weapon, even if they have something better up their sleeves.

I believe that we should learn how to snipe people with senbon like Haku did because it's a small, light weapon that relies on accuracy, which the Byakugan will give us plenty of. Just look at how good Haku was with it. Chakra Scalpels is also a must to ad to our Gentle Fist, but remember that we will need to also improve it with Elemental Affinity.
 
Tenten doesn't deserve any of what Kishimoto did to her.
Tenten was done dirty by Kishimoto. Change my mind.
Good point, but my point still stands that a ninja needs these kids of weapon, even if they have something better up their sleeves.

I believe that we should learn how to snipe people with senbon like Haku did because it's a small, light weapon that relies on accuracy, which the Byakugan will give us plenty of. Just look at how good Haku was with it. Chakra Scalpels is also a must to ad to our Gentle Fist, but remember that we will need to also improve it with Elemental Affinity.
I mean hears the thing... we have an AI in our head, whoes memories will soon meld into our own... we could always make hidden blades, hand crossbows, guns, lasers, and even a mecha if we had the know-how.

We do not lack for options for having weapons... merely materials, an industrial base... and the experience to do that.
 
Well yes, I did say that Gentle Fist by itself is already ridiculously effective but it could be more so, Trench Knives give you a slashing weapon added to the style while you still have your fingers ready and free to just poke someone in the heart and all that by holding it in a reversed grip.

Add in Lightning Chackra to that and...well...let's just say if skilled enough there ain't that many who could last long up close and personal against you.

Esit:Guns, Crossbows and even bows in some way are rather useless against Ninjas, when your body is tough enough to merely be bruised by a gunshot or fast enough you can see and dodge the bullet, guns don't seem all that threatening. It is why the only ranged weapons used mostly are throwing ones that can be used from not to far away I think.
 
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Good point, but my point still stands that a ninja needs these kids of weapon, even if they have something better up their sleeves.

I believe that we should learn how to snipe people with senbon like Haku did because it's a small, light weapon that relies on accuracy, which the Byakugan will give us plenty of. Just look at how good Haku was with it. Chakra Scalpels is also a must to ad to our Gentle Fist, but remember that we will need to also improve it with Elemental Affinity.
I'd agree with you... if we were part of literally any other clan. Not only does our clans martial art boast EXTREME lethality in melee, it's actually very possible to turn it into a ranged art. And that's only Part 1, part 2 we got people just making their throwing weapons out of chakra whole-sale.

Short range, we use Gentle Fist. Medium Range, we use Water Needle. Long-Range, we use a Bow and Arrow.
Well yes, I did say that Gentle Fist by itself is already ridiculously effective but it could be more so, Trench Knives give you a slashing weapon added to the style while you still have your fingers ready and free to just poke someone in the heart and all that by holding it in a reversed grip.

Add in Lightning Chackra to that and...well...let's just say if skilled enough there ain't that many who could last long up close and personal against you.
Thing is, why would you need a slashing weapon? How is that blade helping your lethality at all? Anything that knife could do, our fingers can do better. I can only maybe see it if we are really running low on chakra, to the point where we can't make use of Gentle Fist.

We could just use the Lightning Chakra with Gentle Fist. No need for a weapon.
 
Thing is, why would you need a slashing weapon? How is that blade helping your lethality at all? Anything that knife could do, our fingers can do better. I can only maybe see it if we are really running low on chakra, to the point where we can't make use of Gentle Fist.

We could just use the Lightning Chakra with Gentle Fist. No need for a weapon.
Parrying, deflecting, etc.

Imagine trying to deflect or defend against people swinging weapons at you with only your bare hands. Possible but not as effective as it could be, then there's the fact that with a weapon you could negate most armors. Honestly I see many ways in which Gentle Fist can be improved by using a meele weapon, just because you can poke someone and kill them that way doesn't mean you can do it always at anytime, insuring every swing of yours can atleast make them bleed on the other hand is more effective imo.
 
Esit:Guns, Crossbows and even bows in some way are rather useless against Ninjas, when your body is tough enough to merely be bruised by a gunshot or fast enough you can see and dodge the bullet, guns don't seem all that threatening. It is why the only ranged weapons used mostly are throwing ones that can be used from not to far away I think.
Crossbows and Bows are far from useless. We do in fact see them used (VERY rarely. Like, 2 instances I can think of). Range actually makes it harder to dodge, because if you aren't a Hyuuga, you aren't going to notice an arrow coming at you from a mile away till it's very close to you. And Ninja have a very hard time dodging an attack they don't see coming. The lack of represenation of ranged weaponry in Naruto is more due to it being Shonen than it not being effective.
Parrying, deflecting, etc.

Imagine trying to deflect or defend against people swinging weapons at you with only your bare hands. Possible but not as effective as it could be, then there's the fact that with a weapon you could negate most armors. Honestly I see many ways in which Gentle Fist can be improved by using a meele weapon, just because you can poke someone and kill them that way doesn't mean you can do it always at anytime, insuring every swing of yours can atleast make them bleed on the other hand is more effective imo.
We see a lot of people parrying and deflecting with their bare hands. Heck, the Gentle Fist is almost the best suited for it, for if you can strike their hand while you're at it you now rendered that hand useless. And the Gentle Fist already negates most armors.

We don't need a blade to make them bleed with every swing. A touch anywhere can be absolutely debilitating if we want. Brush our hand along their arm, and now they can't use that arm. Hit the chest, and they'll have a hard time breathing. Hit their stomach, and we'll find out what they had for lunch. Much more useful than just a bleeding cut.
 
Crossbows and Bows are far from useless. We do in fact see them used (VERY rarely. Like, 2 instances I can think of). Range actually makes it harder to dodge, because if you aren't a Hyuuga, you aren't going to notice an arrow coming at you from a mile away till it's very close to you. And Ninja have a very hard time dodging an attack they don't see coming. The lack of represenation of ranged weaponry in Naruto is more due to it being Shonen than it not being effective.

We see a lot of people parrying and deflecting with their bare hands. Heck, the Gentle Fist is almost the best suited for it, for if you can strike their hand while you're at it you now rendered that hand useless. And the Gentle Fist already negates most armors.

We don't need a blade to make them bleed with every swing. A touch anywhere can be absolutely debilitating if we want. Brush our hand along their arm, and now they can't use that arm. Hit the chest, and they'll have a hard time breathing. Hit their stomach, and we'll find out what they had for lunch. Much more useful than just a bleeding cut.
I don't think that's entirely how Gentle Fist works but alright, also I did say that it's possible to just go bare handed against weapon users, just that it's not effective. Most of the time they either take out a kunai or something to defend themselves with when their opponent has a weapon.

Using your bare hands only is just not as ideal and effective is what I meant. The chances of us being able to always be able to hit a enemies checked point is also not there, fights are just way to fast paced and opponents skilled in their own ways for that to be possible. Over relying on the Gentle Fist alone to pull through is too shortsighted imo, better to have weapons you can use to give you an extra edge. The better prepared and extensive our skills in the different areas the better.

As for ranged, yes. If you attack from stealth any type of ranged weapon is more effective, that's a give. But you should also consider the level of awareness Ninja re said to have, the chances to catch them of guard are low even from far away.
 
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The Party Part 1
The Party Part 1

The Uchiha compound was… quite a bit warmer than the Hyuga compound, from the atmosphere alone.

But it was not the warm that you find comfortable, this was far more… well, you couldn't describe it, but it was there. It was not the traditionalism that your clan had… it was the need for more power. The need to be accepted… to be loved.

Maybe that was only you who thought that way. Perhaps it was Atlas, giving you a memory that allowed you to understand just a little bit better, or was it just a feeling… a feeling to help you make the right choice. Or to run away.

Your father gave a small smile as the gate open. "Oh… Mikoto." The woman at the gates was certainly the clan heads wife, a black silk kimono that matched her hair perfectly. The way way your father said her name with such familiarity made you wonder how he knew her. A smile rose on his face. "I'm sure you remember Ike?"

Mikoto smiled. "I thought you should be greeted here Hizashi, for old times sake."

Your father gave a hearty laugh, and you all followed Mikoto towards her home. "Yes, old times that were five years ago. How's the family?"

"Fine. The clan is really happy to invite some of the others her for this special occasion." She replied.

"What about Fugaku, I trust the clan duties haven't caused him to become grey and cranky like Hiashi?" your father jokes as you mother ribs him.

"Fugaku is fine, though he's a bit tired, try not to annoy him with politics of the village, he has enough to deal with already."

Ahh, so seemed to be some bad blood between the village and the Uchiha clan… something must have happened in the past to cause it.

When you arrive at the house of the clan head, there was only a small gaggle of children there, maybe two or three, and the rest were adults, members of the Uchiha clan, a few outsiders… and Lord Hokage himself and his wife.

That was a surprise. A very big surprise. You had only heard hushed whispers about the new Hokage, something that fills you with great intrigue. They said he was a demon on the battlefield, a master of strategy, an imposing man who could will himself to win anything…

What you saw was a man with blonde hair, sitting down in front of a dog… petting it while getting his hair braided by one of the children, with his wife watching on with a gleeful smile.

This was a man feared by nations… And he was acting completely human.

It filled you with comfort, that such a man was your leader.

But now you had arrived at the party… now it was time to meet your fellows… or the adults

Who do you meet:

[]Itachi: The Young Uchiha was in the garden, staring at his plants, his mind deep in thought. The birthday child is not enjoying himself lke others have.

[]Hana Izunuka: The young girl was with Minato, now she was running around with her puppy. She also was planning something to get Itachi to smile.

[]Minato Namikaze: The man with pigtails in his head, the most dangerous man in the room… did not feel so dangerous. He was relaxed and enjoying himself.

[]Kushina Uzumaki: The Hokage's wife was chatting with her friend, and enjoying the small social gathering.

[]Fugaku: Your father and the Clan head seemed to be discussing some things… or was it reminiscing about old glories? You didn't know.

[]The Dog: You sensed a man in the rafters, watching over the entire party… he seemed lonely, so you're going to join him.

[]Sit alone: There is nothing here that interests you… You're going to eat cake. Maybe Atlas can be a good conversationalist.

AN: Enjoy.
 
[X]Itachi: The Young Uchiha was in the garden, staring at his plants, his mind deep in thought. The birthday child is not enjoying himself lke others have.
 
Agh, why must you tempt us so? 😅 /s

[X]Itachi: The Young Uchiha was in the garden, staring at his plants, his mind deep in thought. The birthday child is not enjoying himself lke others have.

Might as well go with what we had Shirou come here to do in the first place.
 
[X]The Dog: You sensed a man in the rafters, watching over the entire party… he seemed lonely, so you're going to join him.
 
I don't think that's entirely how Gentle Fist works but alright, also I did say that it's possible to just go bare handed against weapon users, just that it's not effective. Most of the time they either take out a kunai or something to defend themselves with when their opponent has a weapon.

Using your bare hands only is just not as ideal and effective is what I meant. The chances of us being able to always be able to hit a enemies checked point is also not there, fights are just way to fast paced and opponents skilled in their own ways for that to be possible. Over relying on the Gentle Fist alone to pull through is too shortsighted imo, better to have weapons you can use to give you an extra edge. The better prepared and extensive our skills in the different areas the better.

As for ranged, yes. If you attack from stealth any type of ranged weapon is more effective, that's a give. But you should also consider the level of awareness Ninja re said to have, the chances to catch them of guard are low even from far away.
Gentle Fist works by injecting the users chakra into the opponent's body, disrupting their chakra system and potentially causing harm to their internal organs. It's basically an attack on the nerves, but better.

I'm only really familiar with people drawing kunai to swat away thrown projectiles. When they enter blade-locks, it wasn't a blocking move on either of their parts but them both intentionally making a bladed attack.

It's not as ideal and effective for literally any other clan. The body is COVERED in those points, we would almost have to try to hit a spot without one within an inch or two of one
Thus, any blow we could land, we can flex our wrist and hit a tenketsu. And the Hyuuga SPECIALIZE in rapid flexibility and movement. The only times we won't be able to hit one is when we're utterly outclassed.

I agree we shouldn't overly on the gentle fist, but attaching a blade on our hand does literally nothing for us. We have many other fields to focus on, such as Nature Transformation, Ranged Attacks, Genjutsu, etc.

High level ninja get caught off-guard by ranged attacks all the time, only barely being able to dodge because their stupid-OP reflexs (I'm talking about people like Minato and the Raikage). If we aren't fighting someone explicitly known for their speed and reflexs, we can pretty reliably hit them.
 
[X]Itachi: The Young Uchiha was in the garden, staring at his plants, his mind deep in thought. The birthday child is not enjoying himself lke others have.
 
[X]Minato Namikaze: The man with pigtails in his head, the most dangerous man in the room… did not feel so dangerous. He was relaxed and enjoying himself.

Will copy-paste the full vote once I am on a PC, not smartphone. If we're going to change Minato's fate, we should at least meet him early on so that the ripples affect him more.

To be frank, I don't much care about Itachi himself at this point. Maybe later.
 
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[X]Hana Izunuka: The young girl was with Minato, now she was running around with her puppy. She also was planning something to get Itachi to smile.
 
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