Ride the Lightning (Worm / DC Comics Cross Over)

Theoretically? Allow me to introduce you to Marvel Speedster Fastforward aka "Buried Alien" of Earth TRN242. The entity known as "The Runner" (a guy so good at running he became the embodiment of the concept of Running) discovered a man going so fast he was invited to participate in a race to discover the "fastest alive" for that particular Marvel universe (other contestants include Quicksilver). The man wore a torn red-and-yellow bodysuit and had blonde hair and a beard. The man won and was declared the fastest man alive, saying that "that feels right." He was amnesiac and took the name 'Buried Alien' because that was the closest to what he's sure his name is, and his last memory is of running. He describes a "ball of energy inside me" that makes him want to run. He eventually became the hero Fastforward, wearing a red bodysuit that had a yellow V on the chest and back.

Bascially, Barry didn't die when ending Crisis on Infinite Earths, he ran into a Marvel Universe where he made two appearances.
Man everything involving the Speed Force goes super deep.
 
Theoretically? Allow me to introduce you to Marvel Speedster Fastforward aka "Buried Alien" of Earth TRN242. The entity known as "The Runner" (a guy so good at running he became the embodiment of the concept of Running) discovered a man going so fast he was invited to participate in a race to discover the "fastest alive" for that particular Marvel universe (other contestants include Quicksilver). The man wore a torn red-and-yellow bodysuit and had blonde hair and a beard. The man won and was declared the fastest man alive, saying that "that feels right." He was amnesiac and took the name 'Buried Alien' because that was the closest to what he's sure his name is, and his last memory is of running. He describes a "ball of energy inside me" that makes him want to run. He eventually became the hero Fastforward, wearing a red bodysuit that had a yellow V on the chest and back.

Bascially, Barry didn't die when ending Crisis on Infinite Earths, he ran into a Marvel Universe where he made two appearances.

One of my favorite bits of Flash trivia.
 
i don't know if anyone answered how fast volacity is but its around 350-360 and still being able to interact with the world
 
I do not know if anyone else has mentioned this, but Legend is also capable of going fast. Really, really fast. It is heavily implied that he possesses Eden's interstellar travel shard. During an interlude Legend explains that the only thing limiting his speed is his ability to control the flight. The faster Legend goes, the more his mind shuts down. Legend even speculates that the trade-off between speed and consciousness is perfect for handling the boredom of traversing vast differences, like those between stars.

Legend can certainly clock is speeds in excess of 800 miles per hour. I'd guess his limit is either the speed of light, or if he can travel faster then it is possible he only has a maximum acceleration, not a maximum velocity.

EDIT: The fastest estimated speed I've seen for The Flash was 9.4 million times the speed of light. I cannot find the source, but someone analysed a comic where Barry saved a city full of people from a nuclear explosion after the bomb detonated.
 
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EDIT: The fastest estimated speed I've seen for The Flash was 9.4 million times the speed of light. I cannot find the source, but someone analysed a comic where Barry saved a city full of people from a nuclear explosion after the bomb detonated

Its even faster, there is a youtube video earlier in the thread which measured the fastest The Flash has ever ran, which was to out run instant teleporting from the edge of the universe to earth. the calculation was seed to be faster then the smallest time measurable

edit: Here it is, from page 8
This video shows you just how bullshit the Flash's power is.

 
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I do not know if anyone else has mentioned this, but Legend is also capable of going fast. Really, really fast. It is heavily implied that he possesses Eden's interstellar travel shard. During an interlude Legend explains that the only thing limiting his speed is his ability to control the flight. The faster Legend goes, the more his mind shuts down. Legend even speculates that the trade-off between speed and consciousness is perfect for handling the boredom of traversing vast differences, like those between stars.

Legend can certainly clock is speeds in excess of 800 miles per hour. I'd guess his limit is either the speed of light, or if he can travel faster then it is possible he only has a maximum acceleration, not a maximum velocity.

EDIT: The fastest estimated speed I've seen for The Flash was 9.4 million times the speed of light. I cannot find the source, but someone analysed a comic where Barry saved a city full of people from a nuclear explosion after the bomb detonated.
In a video on this thread. His fastest speed is faster than a Plank Instant, which is the distance light travels between two points on a molecule. He was literally every where and every when at the same time, arriving before instaneous movement, therefore being somewhere before he left to go there.

Edit: Ninja'd
 
Sight. Future Taylor tries to warn Legend! As usual, she proves herself to be far too retarded to give him a fucking handwfitten note.

Parts of her body were phasing in and out as she was trying to warn Legend and even then she was very blurry, possibly due to ultra-fast vibration. A piece of paper probably wouldn't have been too blurry to read anything while she held it and likely woulda disintegrated if she let it go. Trying to write a message on something in the past would've been at least as problematic as speaking verbally as her phasing n and out might have made writing difficult.

Also theoretically he should be able to travel the multiverse since the Speed Force is connected to the multiverse which means if he wanted to he could use his speed to travel literally anyway in all universes.

In the show, he can, with a little help. The first test of the Tachyon Enhancement tech he went to the past to get the design data for resulted in Flash accidentally travelling between shows for a guest shot on Supergirl, where he helped her fight Silver Banshee and Livewire before returning to Earth-1 seconds after he left(the guys at STAR Labs didn't even realize he'd been gone, despite him having been on Supergirl's Earth for a day or two before Supergirl helped him make the return trip)
 
Taylor Hebert triggered with the power to be struck by lightning whenever she wants!

Ouch.


...now it is impressive to accomplish great things with weak or unsuitable powers, but this is going to be a doozy.

Shazam? SHAZAM!

Edit: Oh, wait what? I'm already done! Nooo... I want more!
 
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Over on Spacebattles there has been an ongoing conversation about how fast Flash!Taylor is, powers, etc.

I wrote this.

THIS IS NOT PART OF THE STORY, though I may end up using pieces of it (particular word choices, etc) later on.


Lagniappe

Flash v SH9

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I felt like I was going to die. My lungs burned, my heart felt like it was going to explode in my chest.

But I was done.

To the world around me only minutes had passed. From my perspective, I had been running for years, searching, hunting.

But I was done.

In a dive bar outside of Seattle I had reached through a chest and disintegrated the heart of Jack Slash. Looping through Africa on my way back around I dodged between particles of sand, bits of flame, and found the boy walking through the constant explosion that was the Ash Beast. Extending a finger and allowing the smallest amount of inertia to bleed into it, I lightly tapped his jaw as I ran past, his head forced into several 360 degree turns before flying off. A moment later I was back in the dive bar. The blonde girls eyes had moved a fraction of a millimeter to the right, towards the still standing, still technically alive Jack Slash.

Bonesaw. I had read about her. A biotinker who had cultured untold numbers of pandemic plagues within her own body. Feeling the lightning surge through me I took hold of the girl and vibrated the two of us. Physics briefly forgot we existed as we passed through the wall of the bar. Trees, rocks, streams, none of these existed for the two of us. The only thing I focussed on was the mountain of rock fast approaching.

Mount Rainier.

In picoseconds we had penetrated into the side of the mountain. When I estimated we were halfway through, I simply let go.

I emerged from the other side, bleeding off some speed so I could turn and run over the top in the opposite direction.

Bonesaw was left in the heart of the mountain, a magma pocket erasing her from existence.

Shatterbird and Cherish were non-concerns. They each received the Jack Slash Cardiac Massage.

Hatchetface was an interesting case. Apparently I move too fast for him to nullify my power. If anything my head became more clear, I felt more calm as I closed with him. I moved his ax from his hands and into his skull, letting it solidify there. This just left Crawler and Siberian.

I circled around the bar into the woods behind it. Crawler had risen half an inch from when I first entered the area. Fast reflexes. I would have to be careful with him. From what I knew, anything that didn't kill him just made him stronger, more resistant to the same tactic.

Coming up to the beast I let my hands vibrate. Taking a hold of one of his hands, I let the vibrations pass from my hands into his, out of synch with the rest of his body. The hand ceased to exist as biology, instead becoming physics. A cloud of free floating particles. I stopped vibrating and ran around the world four times, each trip passing through the cloud, letting physics reassert themselves as I moved through the cloud. The individual molecules, the atoms that had been Crawlers hand, could not move in time, instead undergoing fusion. While I could have just left and counted on the resulting energy release to take care of the rest of Crawler... I had to be sure. I repeated the trick with three other limbs and then his head, running away as five, near simultaneous nuclear explosions obliterated the monster beyond any ability to regenerate.

Siberian.

She killed Hero.

She took Alexandria down without any noticeable effort.

Running to Egypt I turned around and raced back across the ocean, heading through the American heartland, building speed the entire time. West Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington state, they all blur under my feet. I came up to her, a still life in black and white, concentrating on my fist, letting it accumulate mass as I increased speed, the lightning in my veins protecting the rest of my body from the beginnings of a gravitational pull in the dead star that was my right hand. Passing her on the left, my right fist connected with her face. For just a moment I allowed the rest of me to stop. The kinetic force of my punch bled out into real space, propagating out at nearly the speed of light. I accelerated faster.

The bar, the woods, everything in a half mile radius ceased to exist as a flash of light followed by a roar like that of a fallen God screamed through the area.
What is this weird trend lately in Worm fics with killing poor Ashbeast?

This is the third or forth snippet I've seen in the last month lumping him in with the likes of the S9 and their ilk.
Hasn't the poor boy suffered enough?
 
Hasn't the poor boy suffered enough?
Yes, which is why you give him a quick death. :p
In all seriousness though, Ash Beast is incredibly destructive - the only thing keeping him from being an S-Class threat is his movement speed. He has no control whatsoever over his power. If you want to deal with him non-lethally, you need a power nullifier who's tough enough to get close to him. The only person I can think of who might fight the bill is Hatchet Face, and a) I kinda doubt he's that insanely durable, and b) he's a member of the Slaughterhouse 9.
 
Also theoretically he should be able to travel the multiverse since the Speed Force is connected to the multiverse which means if he wanted to he could use his speed to travel literally anyway in all universes.

No doubt about that.
Barry Allen managed to travel to Earth-1 and he's the 2nd slowest of the flashes soo...yeah. Wally is/was the fastest(?) Flash, Wally can perform the Infinite Mass Punch which as you may have guessed from the name is a punch that goes so fast it's reached well...infinite mass.
edit: Jay Garrick was the low-end for the flash family :V also cannot english
 
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Barry Allen managed to travel to Earth-1 and he's the 2nd slowest of the flashes soo...yeah. Wally is/was the fastest(?) Flash, Wally can perform the Infinite Mass Punch which as you may have guessed from the name is a punch that goes so fast it's reached well...infinite mass.
edit: Jay Garrick was the low-end for the flash family :V also cannot english
Actually, I think Johnny and Jesse Quick were the low ends of that bell curve. (Not sure if they strictly COUNT as part of the "Flash Family," though.)
 
Actually, I think Johnny and Jesse Quick were the low ends of that bell curve. (Not sure if they strictly COUNT as part of the "Flash Family," though.)
Whilst being speedsters I don't think they were either a Flash/Kid Flash/Flashette(which is of course a female Flash...duh)/Flashkick(portmanteau)/what have you...hell Reverse Flash is 'closer' in 'relation' than the Quicks.
 
What is this weird trend lately in Worm fics with killing poor Ashbeast?

This is the third or forth snippet I've seen in the last month lumping him in with the likes of the S9 and their ilk.
Hasn't the poor boy suffered enough?


When I was writing that I almost threw in the 3 blasphemies and Nilbog, but decided the point could be made with what I had. Ashbeast was a left over casualty of an earlier draft.
 
Urgh. I constantly get disappointed when i see new replies in some of these stories :( Always hoping that it'll be a new chapter or otherwise updates for the story.
 
I've gotta say, this is pretty cool. I can't wait to see what happens when Taylor starts really pushing herself and we have someone else to measure speed.
 
Bonesaw was left in the heart of the mountain, a magma pocket erasing her from existence.

While that is certainly an effective way to remove any possible threat posed by the victim of a terorrist with a Master rating, it's kinda hard on the victim, sets a terrible precedent, and really isn't something that a hero has any business doing.

The bar, the woods, everything in a half mile radius ceased to exist as a flash of light followed by a roar like that of a fallen God screamed through the area.

And the Siberian would survive it. You can't punch an idea to death. The side effects might kill Manton though, which is just about as good. But depending on what his maximum range is, he might well survive by not being in that half mile radius, and if he survives, the Siberian will just shrug it off.

Like the Bonesaw solution, it really sucks for any victims of the Nine, and isn't really something a hero should be doing. In the Wormverse, showing you are capable of something like that is likely to result in being classified as an S-Class Threat (the same rating the Nine have) and the issuance of a kill order -- yes, even for a hero. Governments really, really dislike having walking WMDs around. Having one that is that dangerous without any hyperbole? They tend to base their reactions on the concept that capability equals intent and react accordingly.

I mean, that mini infinite mass punch could have taken out all of them except maybe Crawler.

Siberian wouldn't be affected by it except as a possible result of one of the side effects.
 
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One question.

You implied that as Taylor approached Hachetface she feels calmer. Does this imply QA being hijacked by the Speed Force?
 
While that is certainly an effective way to remove any possible threat posed by the victim of a terorrist with a Master rating, it's kinda hard on the victim, sets a terrible precedent, and really isn't something that a hero has any business doing.
To be perfectly fair.... she's an S-class threat with a standing kill order and a penchant for horrific atrocities on MASSES of civilians. The fact that she's a young girl who was manipulated into committing the crimes IS horrible, but... the naked glee that she shows in the committing means my sympathy is... sorely lacking.

This solution is actually almost humane. (Almost.)

And the Siberian would survive it. You can't punch an idea to death. The side effects might kill Manton though, which is just about as good. But depending on what his maximum range is, he might well survive by not being in that half mile radius, and if he survives, the Siberian will just shrug it off.
Pretty sure the blast wave would get him, though. You make a half mile just "cease to exist" and the effects are going to be felt for quite a ways.

Like the Bonesaw solution, it really sucks for any victims of the Nine, and isn't really something a hero should be doing.
Once the S9 get their hands on them, pretty much any victim would probably PREFER a nice, quick atomization over whatever horror they've decided on inflicting that day.

Governments really, really dislike having walking WMDs around. Having one that is that dangerous without any hyperbole? They tend to base their reactions on the concept that capability equals intent and react accordingly.
Yeah... except they're not THAT stupid. The choice between "issue a kill order on this hero who's been Doing Good" or "draw up plans, keep them VERY quiet, and keep her on OUR SIDE" is... pretty clear cut, I'd say.

Plus, it's the S9. You would REALLY have to work it to sell a kill order to the public for anyone taking them out in any way. And you WOULD have to sell it to the public, because that shit would leak. ("Dude, you know the Flash? Girl who killed the Slaughterhouse? Yeah, my asshole boss just signed a kill order for her! What the fuck, man!")
 
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