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Gindjurra said:
While that is certainly an effective way to remove any possible threat posed by the victim of a terorrist with a Master rating, it's kinda hard on the victim, sets a terrible precedent, and really isn't something that a hero has any business doing.



And the Siberian would survive it. You can't punch an idea to death. The side effects might kill Manton though, which is just about as good. But depending on what his maximum range is, he might well survive by not being in that half mile radius, and if he survives, the Siberian will just shrug it off.

Like the Bonesaw solution, it really sucks for any victims of the Nine, and isn't really something a hero should be doing. In the Wormverse, showing you are capable of something like that is likely to result in being classified as an S-Class Threat (the same rating the Nine have) and the issuance of a kill order -- yes, even for a hero. Governments really, really dislike having walking WMDs around. Having one that is that dangerous without any hyperbole? They tend to base their reactions on the concept that capability equals intent and react accordingly.



Siberian wouldn't be affected by it except as a possible result of one of the side effects.
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The Taylor in my actual story won't be killing people in these ways. I'm going for a mostly lawful-good approach here (with some hints of chaotic-good). Killing the bad guys as a first step is a lazy way out imho. The point of this was more of a "what could she do if she decided to remove all restrictions."

That said:

1) Bonesaw isn't a Master, she is several walking pandemics. Incineration while sealed under miles of rock seemed like the way to go.

2) The Flash here had no way of knowing about Siberian being a projection. She just knew that she had never been hurt, and was tough enough to have killed Hero and put the smack down on Alexandria, so she hit her as hard as she could. Incinerating Manton in his murder-hobo van as a by-product was a happy accident. Apparently you *can* kill an idea if you liquify the brain that is having it.



t-dugong said:
One question.

You implied that as Taylor approached Hachetface she feels calmer. Does this imply QA being hijacked by the Speed Force?
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Interesting observation there. I award you 10 internets and 1 spoiler. PM me if you would like to receive your spoiler.
 
I always felt that The Flash is a iffy name choice. Its too easy to make it sound like you are a flasher. Then again, there are few good names for heroes that move very quickly. Most either sound childish, villanish, or like a double entendre.
 
thecoffeeguru said:
The second listed Evansville, Kentucky.
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I realize I'm being the King of all nitpickers here, but as someone who used to live there, Evansville is TOTALLY in Indiana. Henderson's across the river. Lol.

Loving this fic. Update rate could be a liiiil better but yeah, its great so far. Can't wait for more.

Also, not sure exactly why Dragon is impressed by the ability to move really fast. Velocity probably can't move 800 mph but speedsters certainly aren't uncommon in the worm-verse. Seems a little unusual that it would come to her attention.

Can't wait for more!
 
Materia-Blade said:
I realize I'm being the King of all nitpickers here, but as someone who used to live there, Evansville is TOTALLY in Indiana. Henderson's across the river. Lol.

Loving this fic. Update rate could be a liiiil better but yeah, its great so far. Can't wait for more.

Also, not sure exactly why Dragon is impressed by the ability to move really fast. Velocity probably can't move 800 mph but speedsters certainly aren't uncommon in the worm-verse. Seems a little unusual that it would come to her attention.

Can't wait for more!
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It's an UNKNOWN speedster who can reach supersonic velocities. That's scary, even if their power works like Velocity's (speed reduces ability to interact with the world). If this new speedster can interact with the world at that speed? They hit with the force of a small caliber handgun when they hit you at full speed, at the very least.
 
Ash19256 said:
It's an UNKNOWN speedster who can reach supersonic velocities. That's scary, even if their power works like Velocity's (speed reduces ability to interact with the world). If this new speedster can interact with the world at that speed? They hit with the force of a small caliber handgun when they hit you at full speed, at the very least.
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Yeah, that's literal minimum. Human hand has a LOT more mass than a bullet.
 
Good news is if Taylor wants (when she realises she can) she can run back in time and save her mother from that car crash she was supposed to have died in, she'd just need to bring her back to the future with her in order to preserve the time stream. If she does this though, it might not hurt to let her dad know before hand so he doesn't flip out when Annette reappears after being thought dead for so long.
 
Diceart said:
Good news is if Taylor wants (when she realises she can) she can run back in time and save her mother from that car crash she was supposed to have died in, she'd just need to bring her back to the future with her in order to preserve the time stream. If she does this though, it might not hurt to let her dad know before hand so he doesn't flip out when Annette reappears after being thought dead for so long.
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Yes, because going back in time for that sort of thing didn't create any unholy abominations
 
Silverias said:
The Nu52
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For real though, you don't think Taylor would go back and save her mom if she could? Also if she kept the time loop stable then there wouldn't be any changes, because it's a stable time loop, her traveling back in time wouldn't get rid of the reason she traveled back in time for. That's why I said she'd have to take her mother back to the future with her. Doing so would keep the event's that caused her to gain superpowers, past her and Danny would still think Annette died (as long as Taylor thought in advance to bring something to make her mother's death look real (Like say having Panacea or Blasto grow a clone corpse of her mother to replace her mother with at the scene of the accident.) This isn't the DC universe Taylor doesn't have to worry about the speed force sending in it's own anthropomorphic personification of death to reap her for cheating it.
 
Diceart said:
For real though, you don't think Taylor would go back and save her mom if she could? Also if she kept the time loop stable then there wouldn't be any changes, because it's a stable time loop, her traveling back in time wouldn't get rid of the reason she traveled back in time for. That's why I said she'd have to take her mother back to the future with her. Doing so would keep the event's that caused her to gain superpowers, past her and Danny would still think Annette died (as long as Taylor thought in advance to bring something to make her mother's death look real (Like say having Panacea or Blasto grow a clone corpse of her mother to replace her mother with at the scene of the accident.) This isn't the DC universe Taylor doesn't have to worry about the speed force sending in it's own anthropomorphic personification of death to reap her for cheating it.
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The speed force is a thing here even if it isn't the DC universe so, who knows, maybe it could send death after her.
 
RexHeller said:
The speed force is a thing here even if it isn't the DC universe so, who knows, maybe it could send death after her.
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The speed force does exist this is true, however personifications of the other elemental forces (Of the DCU) have yet to be seen, and I doubt that they will be.
 
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Having written the only other Flash Taylor I'm aware of on SV, (Quick on the Trigger in the Ideas thread, don't bother it's crap, especially compared to this) I have to say I'm really enjoying seeing someone else's take on it - and one that lasts more than a single-page one shot is even better.

On a different tangent, maybe she could trade hobby tips with Miss Militia over PHO? And Hannah thought she had it bad, only having an extra eight hours or so to fill every day due to never needing to sleep! Too bad Dragon's shackles restrict her to "nomral human" equivalent thought speed, she could be an interesting conversation partner in bullet time otherwise. I'm sure she still would be - it would be cool if she could work out the speed force equation as a way around those limits, but even if not getting to know the new speedster that caught her attention would certainly be something she considered a good use of her time even as just part of the investigation, and having an experienced legitimately-worthy-of-the-title hero as a mentor would just be so very good for Taylor's development.

Of course, that's why it probably won't happen, but I can dream, right?
 
thecoffeeguru said:
1) Bonesaw isn't a Master, she is several walking pandemics. Incineration while sealed under miles of rock seemed like the way to go.
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I never said Bonesaw was a Master. I said that she is the victim of one. Jack can talk anyone with a shard into doing pretty much anything he wants them to do, given enough time. It's how he recruits people into the Nine, it's how he herds cats to keep them working as a cohesive group and it's how he sets off Golden Morning.

Killing the victim of a Master without attempting to free them first isn't something a hero should be doing and sets a terrible precedent.

thecoffeeguru said:
2) The Flash here had no way of knowing about Siberian being a projection. She just knew that she had never been hurt, and was tough enough to have killed Hero and put the smack down on Alexandria, so she hit her as hard as she could. Incinerating Manton in his murder-hobo van as a by-product was a happy accident. Apparently you *can* kill an idea if you liquify the brain that is having it.
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Was Manton's max range ever defined in canon? If he's behind sufficiently sturdy cover, he might survive even inside what would be minimum safe distance with direct line of sight.

Hitting the Siberian with a kiloton-range kinetic weapon would have no effect on her unless the blast took out Manton, and if it didn't, it would look like she tanked it.
 
Datcord said:
To be perfectly fair.... she's an S-class threat with a standing kill order and a penchant for horrific atrocities on MASSES of civilians. The fact that she's a young girl who was manipulated into committing the crimes IS horrible, but... the naked glee that she shows in the committing means my sympathy is... sorely lacking.


Pretty sure the blast wave would get him, though. You make a half mile just "cease to exist" and the effects are going to be felt for quite a ways.
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The fact remains that Bonesaw is Mastered. That makes her one of the victims.

As for that blast wave, for a fireball diameter of a mile, you're talkng about something in the15-20 megaton range. Small towns 'outside Seattle' are fairly close together. As in, their town limits butt up against the limits of the next town down the road. By the time you find towns that actually have gaps between them, you're no longer 'outside Seattle'. And until you reach the mountains, even those gaps are fairly densely populated.

The closest matches among nuclear weapons are the B41 and the Castle Bravo nuclear test. Third degree burns for people caught in the open 30 miles away, all civilian structures within 15 miles of the blast annihilated, and reinforced mil-spec concrete buildings destroyed out to 8 miles.

Assming the local definition of 'outside Seattle', total casualties would be somewhere in the two to eigt million range. The amount of damage that punch would do would exceed the death toll of any three Endbringer attacks other than Newfoundland or Kyushu.

So yeah, I do think it would result in a kill order on The Flash, were it not an omake.
 
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I think that if they actually tried to carry out a kill order on Flash it would go utterly horribly. Either Taylor would just give up after having the world as a whole turn on her and vibrate into another dimension/merge with the speed force, or they turn her into the monster they fear and then everyone on earth dies by having their throat slashed at super-speed, before Scion even gets around to doombeaming them.
 
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