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Too bad the Iowas aren't in their WW2 configurations, their AA would probably be more effective at targeting the tentacles than most of what the fleet has available.

I'd say have the fleet try assuming an ASW stance since the bulk of it seems to be underwater. Missiles would probably have a hard time impacting the tentacles so when attacking them above water use main guns (or secondary in the case of the Iowas), if possible or AA like phalanx. Maybe send some ASW armed helicopters to attack the base of the tentacles. They'll probably be destroyed in response, but a helicopter getting taken out is better than a ship being snapped in half.

Though realistically they can't do much, so it'd be best to get 02 online as fast as possible.
 
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[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The EVA is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The EVA is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The EVA is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."

I don't think this will work, thanks to the Admirals attitude, but it's nice to lay a paper trail for "I told you so."
 
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I fucking knew it.

Also, glad to see we went full mama bear on Kaji's ass. He might have his good points... but cornering our kid to get information is pretty scummy.

[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The Eva is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
-[X] Defer deployment of the fleet to the Admiral, it's his damn job, but advise him that non-standard weapons may be useful - high-intensity SONAR pings, any bakelite fluid the fleet's carrying, cryogenic fluid if it's available and can be used. No guarantees, though. Angels are fucking weird like that.
 
VX-145 said:
any bakelite fluid the fleet's carrying, cryogenic fluid if it's available and can be used.
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If the Angel doesn't do us the courtesy of flolloping a large portion of itself onto the flattop's deck (which is honestly a horrifying prospect) these are likely to be rendered largely ineffective by the fact that it is already surrounded by a mindbogglingly vast quantity of a much more mundane liquid.
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The Eva is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
-[X] Defer deployment of the fleet to the Admiral ( for the time being) but advise him that non-standard weapons may be useful - high-intensity SONAR pings, any bakelite, cryogenic fluid, and Napalm the fleet's carrying.
--[X] Standard plan of action, get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacle does it have.

Added a tweak to VX post, any thoughts?
 
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[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] We've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields, regenerate from damage not done to their core in minutes and explosively self destruct with the force of a nuclear bomb. The Eva is the only thing that can allow you to attack through it's shields or to block whatever it throws at you. You've got nothing to gain and everything to lose by not getting it operational ASAP.
-[X] Defer deployment of the fleet to the Admiral ( for the time being) but suggest locating it's main body and any hidden tentacles. If it uses sonar it'll make it easy to find and high intensity sonar pings or depth charges could be used to disorient it.

I trust him to know how to work his ships guns and how to position them (even he should see it's mostly underwater and have them position accordingly), and while he may hate our guts he's insane if he thinks we're lying about any of this. He wants to punch holes in it he's gotta get the robot turned on. It could probably even block the attacks against it's ship and others nearby and is the only way we'd survive it doing it's whole suicide blast anyway. It's pointless to delay at all.

I could also easily see it being like a whale (with tentacles), and being made to it surface due to us causing a racket underwater with pings and depth charges.

And come on how would this thing know where stuff is without sonar if its underwater?
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The Eva is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
-[X] Defer deployment of the fleet to the Admiral ( for the time being) but advise him that non-standard weapons may be useful - high-intensity SONAR pings, any bakelite, cryogenic fluid, and Napalm the fleet's carrying.
--[X] Standard plan of action, get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacle does it have.
 
He probably doesn't know it can regenerate non core damage or go boom, and we aren't getting results from cryogenic fluid, napalm or bakelite in the ocean. We should probably at least address those issue since it changes whether he takes our advice now or after losing a couple more ships.
 
I think we're going overboard in trying to micromanage the fleet. The admiral is an asshole, but he and his fleet ought to know their anti-submarine warfare doctrine.

Also, while N2 warheads don't kill angels by themselves, they are good for softening them up for the EVA to land the killing blow.

[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.
 
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Fair enough. He seems like he needs an example, and this will hopefully buy time to regroup.

[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.
 
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JIMI94 said:
we aren't getting results from cryogenic fluid, napalm or bakelite in the ocean. We should probably at least address those issue since it changes whether he takes our advice now or after losing a couple more ships.
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My thinking for these weapons was for them to be used primarily on its tentacles, that Unit 2, would deflect/catch (using its own AT-field) and nullify the Angels AT-field around the tentacle and the cryogenic fluid and bakelite would freeze it to the ships allowing Unit 2 to destroy/cut off the tentacle, or the napalm and naval rounds would destroy/burn through it it.

My thought for that, is do this enough and eventually the head (where the core is most likely located) would either show itself to continue the fight or it would retreat, and the only alternate I can see is if Unit 2 going underwater itself, to fight the Kraken and depending on its size and how many tentacles it has that could just be suicidal, don't think we have any D-type armor on board for Unit 2.
 
Lock93 said:
My thinking for these weapons was for them to be used primarily on its tentacles, that Unit 2, would deflect/catch (using its own AT-field) and nullify the Angels AT-field around the tentacle and the cryogenic fluid and bakelite would freeze it to the ships allowing Unit 2 to destroy/cut off the tentacle, or the napalm and naval rounds would destroy/burn through it it.
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Problem is...well...I don't think the Angel will be generous enough to leisurely lie its tentacles around for us to hit it with cryogenic fluids or napalm. And if we do hit it with those things, it would be fairly trivial for it to wash it off in the ocean and get right back to attacking.

Also I'm concerned that Misato suggesting napalm on an aquatic angel would make her look like, uh, an idiot? :V
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.

The more I think about, the more I am convinced that this is a situation where a N2 mine is needed.
 
I like Mechasaurian's plan, I've added an extra thing to it - hopefully the fleet has some N2 mines.

Also, re: Angels and how they sense things, canonically they don't need eyes to see; Ramiel's the best example.

[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Special munitions should also be considered, at the Admiral's discretion.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The Eva is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
-[X] Defer deployment of the fleet to the Admiral ( for the time being) but advise him that non-standard weapons may be useful - high-intensity SONAR pings, any bakelite, cryogenic fluid, and Napalm the fleet's carrying.
--[X] Standard plan of action, get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacle does it have.
 
Considering N2 weaponry: How will the fleet react to the arising waves? I mean, those aren't small weapons, and even large supercarriers will probably have problems with that kind of environment, considering the angel is pretty much directly below the fleet.
 
Mechasaurian said:
Problem is...well...I don't think the Angel will be generous enough to leisurely lie its tentacles around for us to hit it with cryogenic fluids or napalm
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Don't get me wrong here, my plan/idea has a lot ifs and maybes in it, for starters if Unit 2 is able to get to a tentacle in time (dependent if it simply just doesn't attack from under whatever ship it is on) if it Unit 2 can stop/catch it in time, if Unite 2 can nullify the krakens AT-field while still holding said tentacle from moving, if said tentacle can be frozen to whatever ship Unit 2 is on, or maybe burned and shot off, before a second or third tentacle or how ever many it has attacks Unit 2.

Mechasaurian said:
And if we do hit it with those things, it would be fairly trivial for it to wash it off in the ocean and get right back to attacking.
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Well that's still time bought for us as the kraken puts out the flames, and even so the damage it has suffered will still be there (I hope at least).

Mechasaurian said:
Also I'm concerned that Misato suggesting napalm on an aquatic angel would make her look like, uh, an idiot? :V
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I mean sure, this is the equivalent of throwing the proverbial kitchen sink at it, but at the same time I think we can be forgiven for that when under attack by a kraken off all things.

Sutekh said:
Its skin is covered in red-violet ring-shaped bioluminescent photophores spaced irregularly. Its skin is transparent. Its skin stinks of decaying algae. Its tentacle is filled with translucent multicolored organs of an unknown purpose
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And also I wanted to see what exactly would happen when its skin is exposed to fire.
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] "I've seen Angels tank N2 mines thanks to their AT Fields. The Eva is likely the only thing that has any chance to punch through it. If you don't want your entire fleet to end up like the destroyer over there, then we need to protect it and get it running at maximum capacity at all costs."
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.
 
Well, I'm sure it's the dream of all sailors to actually fight a sea monster. Our new friend is just helping out! Think of all the stories we can tell after this.

[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.
 
[X] Special instructions for the Pacific Fleet (Write-in)
-[X] Get eyes on the kraken here, sonar, radar, submarines, down to the spotters with thermal imaging, utilize everything we got, need to know exactly where it is, what is its size, how many tentacles it has, etc.
-[X] Encourage the fleet to use N2 munitions against the Angel. Anything with less firepower probably won't cut it.
-[X] Protect Evangelion Unit-02 at all costs. The fleet can soften up the Angel, but only an EVA has ever killed one.
 
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