Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline

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So I've been reading this and I feel compelled to ask: why the semicolons? If it were a typo I'd ignore it, but this is clearly being done on purpose.
Commander Columbia; first in what will come to be a staple of American animation to the present day; is released to substantial fanfare even if the enormity of its budget leaves its financial success as middling at best. Featuring the origins of its leading deity like figures; Amanda Aaron and Vladimir Volkov and the battle against both German agents and the mythic fallen hero Siegfried; the film is also in many ways a form of overt propaganda by the American government to embody its new America.
They are supposed to link otherwise independent clauses, as an alternative to a period. In Reds they seem to mostly replace commas, but it's not consistent. Is this an idiosyncrasy of one of the authors?
It doesn't really affect readability that much but I've always been curious why some people use them this way.
 
Excerpts from An Introduction to the American constitution, (London: Lawrence & Wishart, 1948)
(A college-level textbook published by an independent left-wing publishing house)
I would really love to see into the heads of the FBU elite. What the FBU right-wing writes about the UASR before the Red Scare truly starts. Better yet would be having one ahistorical post about a single right-wing political history textbook and its editions onward from 1946 to 2020 ITL. The post about the textbook divided into several parts, each part with the same excerpt but from a different edition of the same textbook...and showing as the sentences and words change over time as the political climate changes.
 
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'79 in '97
'79 in '97: A Cinematic Exploration of the Crisis of 1979 through the films The Last Night and Never Tell Me the Odds
crossculture.co.syn, c. 2013

Crossculture is a film site that features analysis of international cinema and their connection to pop culture and history.


The Crisis of 1979 would have lingering effects on media on both sides of the Atlantic coming up to the present day. The graphic, controversial EBC film Threads was a direct response to the threat of nuclear war. Films like The Last War, The Day After Tomorrow and Wargames brought the threat of nuclear war to the forefront of their plot, whether directly or indirectly. Even films like The Last Starfighter alluded to the idea of distant wars becoming deadly to civilizations.
Of course, some of the events of '79 itself were eventually covered in film. A mere 3 years later, in 1982, PBS-5 aired The Crisis of 1979, which was a general view of the crisis from the perspective of the world leaders. In 1989, Command saw the Crisis through the perspective of HMS Duke of York, stationed in the Falklands. 1991's Sneakers dealt with a JSB agent and a Section 1 agent in a war of wits as they work to get the upper hand.
Finally, the Crisis was viewed from the perspective of those who were outside the power structures or the militaries. 1986's Quebec City told the story of 8 individuals during the Crisis and their reactions to the impending bombing of the city. 1994's The Storm focused on several Metropolis U students (including a French transfer student) as they deal with the Crisis. Recently in 2009, the PBS-4 television drama Synergy about the rise of the internet, featured the 1979 Crisis prominently, and the characters reaction to the "end of the world" and the role of computers in it.
Of course, this article focuses on the most prominent examples of the latter films, both released in 1997, making them films set in 1979 released in 1997. One was Franco-British, the other American, marking a contrast in how the Crisis was viewed on both sides
The Last Night, the British film, is a distinctly social realist look into British working class life in the mold of Ken Loach. It focuses on Raj Navaneethan in his small English town in the 1978-1979 school year. While he deals with racism from his peers and cultural tension with his traditional Indian parents (including his Indochina veteran father), he escapes into the local music and counterculture scenes. He visits the discotheque at first, and shows off his dance moves. Eventually, he moves on to the local punk scene through his girlfriend and eventually becomes an amateur Toaster.
While the film focuses on this journey through the scenes of the late 70's and their implied racism (based on director Sivakaami*'s experiences as an Asian Brit and music journalist), the latter half has the background element of impending nuclear war, which sees the tensions in the community increase and the increasing depression of Raj. EBC coverage of the Falkland War is juxtaposed to Raj getting ready for a punk concert. The titular Last Night is the event meant to celebrate possibly the last major concert before civilization ends in nuclear hellfire. One of the characters has a brother serving on a warship in the Falkland as the fighting escalates
The steady decline of the community in the lead-up to the Crisis, and its final collapse with the downturn following the crisis provides the final impetus for the main character to leave his small town, especially as the Punk establishment closes. The characters experience a heavy depression as they realize the government are indifferent to the slow death of the community, and their brutal repression of a communist backed strike makes for a haunting scene.
Raj gradually becomes ingrained in the Toast scene of London, who are reacting against the increasing foreign involvement of the newly Lion dominated government and the subsequent persecution of immigrants and leftists in its aftermath. Toasters express hatred for the police, the government, and especially the white establishment that enables both. Raj becomes involved in anti-government activism and is even arrested. The film ends with Raj giving a Toast detailing the futility of the capitalist experiment and trying to succeed in it.
The Last Night is a brutal film, exploring the true failure of capitalism and how the Crisis of 1979 and its aftermath exposed and exacerbated these problems, hurting many who don't have the fortune of living in luxury or those who opposed it.
Ironically, no such major political theme is prominent in the American feature Never Tell Me the Odds. An ode to Star Wars and the fantastik culture of the late 1970's, the film sees a small band of teenaged filmmakers in Phoenix trying to make a fan sequel to the blockbuster smash Star Wars, before the official sequel comes out a year later, but with characters from other series, including old fantastik magazines, Marvel comics, Tarkovsky films, and Star Trek. The film, with a prominent theme of atomic energy, soon becomes entangled with the respective filmmakers' personal lives and especially the ongoing fear of nuclear war with the outbreak of hostilities in the Falklands.
The director Ernie Fosselius, drawing on experiences writing his own parody Hardware Wars, sees the '79 Crisis as a prominent backdrop as the film is being made. The main character, Eric, sees the Crisis as the perfect climate to launch his fan sequel, as a "commentary on current events." Indeed, the plot is changed to reflect the Crisis, as the threat of a "intergalactic war" threatens to wipe out all sentient life. The other lead, Cary, however, fears the Crisis on a personal level (her father is in the WFRAAF), and nervously follows the Crisis as it unfolds.
The climate of fear is shown in one scene, where the main Housing commune goes through a nuclear drill, heading to an underground chamber. The chaos of the scene provides a lot of comedic moments, as does the infusion of dated 70's culture and music.
The film culminates at the premiere, where news emerges that a plane is carrying a bomb towards Quebec City, right at the climax of the fan film involving a fight for a nuclear station. Local Red Guards try to warn off the patrons, and events begin to blur between the film and the chaos.
Ultimately, Don't Tell Me The Odds is more optimistic in its outlook. The film becomes a resounding success after they screen the rest of the film out of the nuclear bunker, and news emerges that the bomber has been withdrawn. The film ends on a note of hope as the filmmakers look forward to the recently announced sequel to Star Wars, and the relief that nuclear war was averted.
 
If I remember the discussions correctly, investment is done by publicly run local and national finance. You can't have a stock market if you can't sell shares of businesses. Since all workplaces are owned by either state institutions, workers directly or a mix of the two, there's no reason for it.

I am a tad worried that this will result in late Soveit style economic stagnation, corruption and decay.

Edit: of course there is an important debate to be had as to how much of that was due to the totalitarian nature of the Soviet system imparing accurate information flow, vs how much was due to the innate inefficiency of a command style economy.
 
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I am a tad worried that this will result in late Soveit style economic stagnation, corruption and decay.

Edit: of course there is an important debate to be had as to how much of that was due to the totalitarian nature of the Soviet system imparing accurate information flow, vs how much was due to the innate inefficiency of a command style economy.

Given that neither totalitarianism, restriction of accurate information, nor command economy are applicable to UASR outside of WW2 and reconstruction, your worries are unfounded. If anything, UASR is far more laissez-faire than most capitalists.
 
I am a tad worried that this will result in late Soveit style economic stagnation, corruption and decay.

Edit: of course there is an important debate to be had as to how much of that was due to the totalitarian nature of the Soviet system imparing accurate information flow, vs how much was due to the innate inefficiency of a command style economy.

Reading through the economic formulation of the USAR, it doesn't appear to be a wholly command style economy (really, ITTL all nations have some element of Command).

Would it be right to say that in this timeline, prosperity is more evenly distributed across nations? That's the sense I am getting, since capitalist nations have self serving reasons to ensure that aligned and non aligned nations enjoy some form of economic health, if only to ensure they don't become socialist states or "pink" democracies.
 
I am a tad worried that this will result in late Soveit style economic stagnation, corruption and decay.

Edit: of course there is an important debate to be had as to how much of that was due to the totalitarian nature of the Soviet system imparing accurate information flow, vs how much was due to the innate inefficiency of a command style economy.

No reason for it. It's not as top down and we've already had events showing people organizing at the bottom can actually bring up problems and shift the direction of the union's government.
 
Did stumble on an interesting article on how utopian communities, as well as communist states in the macro scale, fail in the long run.

Why Utopian Communities Fail - Areo
Pretty irrelevant, because the entire article is based on a flawed assumption: "A community that is based upon declaring intentions is apt to be fearful of outcomes that would disprove those good intentions and invalidate them." A community in itself is based on declared intentions, so trying to redefine that universal truth to fit one's agenda is a skewed thing to do in the first place.

Fuck whoever wrote that article.
 
A community in itself is based on declared intentions, so trying to redefine that universal truth to fit one's agenda is a skewed thing to do in the first place.
Uh what? Most communities are just people who live in close proximity to each other. They are very rarely founded for any specific ideological purposes and rarely all at once.

I don't really see how this has any applicability to the UASR though since it's a state, not a 'community'.
 
I don't really see how this has any applicability to the UASR though since it's a state, not a 'community'.

From the article: "The economic and existential stagnation that is seen everywhere in communist countries, and that leads to their demise, is apparent on a micro scale in intentional communities."
 
From the article: "The economic and existential stagnation that is seen everywhere in communist countries, and that leads to their demise, is apparent on a micro scale in intentional communities."

Mostly due to the fact that OTL communist nations follow very strong top-down command economies and totalitarian politics, despite trying to reach for the idealized community utopia. The New Soviet Man idea is, if I'm not just equivocating, similar to the various attempts at 'correcting' human nature and behavior in the intentional communities.
 
From the article: "The economic and existential stagnation that is seen everywhere in communist countries, and that leads to their demise, is apparent on a micro scale in intentional communities."
A trivially false claim, if by "communist country" is meant "a single-party regime headed by a CP." By that definition, China, Cuba, and Vietnam remain communist countries to this day. Hell, Kerala's Communist state government isn't even a single-party regime, it just keeps getting re-elected even in a very hostile national climate.

To the extent it means a "a single-party regime headed by a CP which was not able to adapt its policy to the global neoliberal turn of the 1980s and 90s without collapsing," well, then the statement assumes its own conclusion. After all, only a "non-stagnant" country would be able to tailor its policy to the demands of the new order.

There is the "state capitalist" position, of course, which holds that the so-called communist countries are nothing of the sort and cannot even start being such until, among other things, a decisive group of countries start trying to build communism, but while this is what I believe, I strongly doubt the article's author does, since the article seems to be staking out a generally anticommunist position. This argument can be safely set to one side.

But really, the article makes no effort to substantiate this claim. It just tosses it out there, hoping that the ideological legacy of 1989 and the "Fall of Communism" will prime the reader to accept its actual points about utopian colonies. Given the failure of basic logic involved in this sleight-of-hand, however, the article would, ironically, have a stronger rhetorical position without it. Which is a shame, because the things it says about the self-obsession of the hippies and their ideological descendents, and that self-obsession's recuperation by the self-help industry, and the retreat from political life (indeed, complete cession of power to the existing rulers) that commune-building has implied since at least Owen, are both true and well-put.
 
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Did stumble on an interesting article on how utopian communities, as well as communist states in the macro scale, fail in the long run.

Why Utopian Communities Fail - Areo

Sooo... why did you post this here? In a thread about an alternate history timeline that isn't a thread about debating 'utopian communities' from a disingenuous far-right magazine that pushes racial pseudoscientific garbage and eugenics. Because if you actually look into its nice list of contributors, Areo has some nice folks in its roster like Jonathan Anomaly, Noah Carl, and Bo Wineguard.. all prominent people in the 'human biodiversity' pseudoscience. Also nice folks like Steve Sailer, prominent member of the white supremacist VDARE organization.

This article, much like the source, is utter malevolent and disingenous, fundamentally misrepresenting the idea of leftist ideologies under the guise of 'realistic common sense' logic. Stop coming into this thread to try and start conflict, we really don't need or want it here.

The New Soviet Man idea is, if I'm not just equivocating, similar to the various attempts at 'correcting' human nature and behavior in the intentional communities.

Ah yes, because Human Nature is magically innate and we're all selfish animals with no power over our own actions. Or, y'know, humans are shaped by the environment, culture, society, and society that they're raised in, and not the standard 'we're tribalist it's in our nature we can't control it woe is us' cynical garbage the kind of folks who scream 'human nature' try to push.
 
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Homage to America
This was an expansion on a previous piece by @Aelita , riffing on George Orwell's Homage to Catalonia. The new part by Bertrand Russell is the work of yours truly, and of course, Aelita wrote the original Orwell piece way back when, with parts of the piece appropriated from Orwell's Homage to Catalonia.
Excerpt from "Journeys to Red America", an essay by Bertrand Russell, collected in Portraits from Memory and Other Essays (1956)

"..... Between April and May, 1936, I was invited for the first time to the young Union of American Socialist Republics as part of a larger delegation of Labour, Independent Labour, and Communist Britons sent to observe the first competitive election in the nation's history. I was tempted by the ideals espoused by the revolutionaries. The Soviet experiment had degenerated by that point, but there was still hope for communism, and in America that hope came into fruition.

All throughout my travels, I saw the revolutionary spirit in every facet of American culture. Buildings draped in the colors red and black, old commercial signs of "Macy's", "Bloomingdale's" and "Sears and Roebuck" destroyed in public, and slogans like "power to the workers", "Death to capitalism", "Workers of the World Unite" taking their place. Our highly bourgeois fashion was out of place with the swath of workers proudly flaunting their working class garb and militarized fashion.

However, aesthetics didn't necessarily mean action. My travel to the nascent Soviet Union had shown that this revolutionary veneer can hide an authoritarian behind it. I retained some level of skepticism over the events, but that was steadily chipped away as I watched the force of socialist democracy in action in workplaces across the nation. From factories to even the hotels we stayed at.

At one of our destinations, at the University of America, Princeton, our host, my late friend Albert Einstein showed us around the campus election events, before we sat and watched the debate between the campus representatives.

It was a debate between a representative of the Workers' Communist Party, the Democratic Farmer-Labor Party, and the Democratic Republican.
In this case, the student for the WCPA, a young Negro named Ezekiel, eloquently defended Marxism, making specific references to many philosophers, including the late Eugene Debs and the late Daniel DeLeon, (both revered enough that the capital was renamed for their contributions to socialism), and stating that the Workers' Party government had helped invest in education and Secretary Dewey had reformed it. Not to say the Farmer-Labor and the Democratic Republican were deficient. The former candidate, a young woman named Florence, utilized the martyr Norman Thomas and the early utopian Robert Owen. Democratic-Republican Jon using Henry George.

Come election season, the new Princeton campus would vote majority for the Workers' Party.
[...]

This journey, and subsequent travels, reaffirmed my commitment towards socialism in a democratic mold. As opposed to the Soviet model, the Americans had managed to achieve the promise of a democratic society accountable to its people, and was the new hope for communism.
Indeed, even after the events of World War II, the atomic bombing of the Japanese fleet in the Korean Strait, and the current ongoing foreign policy entanglements between Premier Benjamin Davis and Prime Minister Anthony Eden, American socialist democracy has proven an enduring model and the Soviets have even begun to learn from its example.


Excerpts from Homage to America, by George Orwell (London: Secker and Warburg, 1939)

In my travels through America, I've come to see that conventional narratives of American communism; from the Commonwealth Workers' Party militants on the left, or the reactionaries on the right, are both fundamentally and inescapably wrong. Since the reasons for rejecting the Tory official history on the subject are all too clear, I shall dismiss this right out of hand, and focus on the Left's ideological shibboleths. It has not been because of the leaders of the Workers' Communist Party like Premier Foster and Chairman Browder themselves nor having utilized the tools of Marxist-Leninism that America achieved socialism. Rather, the leaders and the masses have worked in tandem to help bring about the advent of left-leaning communism in America.

The transformation of the country has been amazing. Very quickly, much of the land in American South was collectively cultivated by the former tenant farmers themselves, without landlords, without bosses, and without instituting capitalist competition to spur production. The government's collectivization programmes, for all their promises, have been most shameful. In the South, the old foremen and plantation owners have been replaced by party apparatchik, favored for political nepotism than leadership skills. Power inequalities, between worker and manager, have been preserved, not eradicated, especially with the ongoing de facto segregation in the so-called "African Federal National Republic".

The "genius" of the American planned economy relies less on the planners in their ivory towers, and far more on the initiative of the rank and file union members. In almost all the industries—factories, mills, workshops, transportation services, public services, and utilities—the rank and file workers, their revolutionary committees, and their syndicates reorganized and administered production, distribution, and public services without capitalists, or high salaried managers.

Even more: the various agrarian and industrial collectives immediately instituted economic equality in accordance with the essential principle of communism, 'From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs.' They coordinated their efforts through free association in whole regions, created new wealth, increased production (especially in agriculture), built more schools, and bettered public services. They instituted not bourgeois formal democracy but genuine grass roots functional libertarian democracy, where each individual participated directly in the revolutionary reorganization of social life. They replaced the war between men, 'survival of the fittest,' by the universal practice of mutual aid, and replaced rivalry by the principle of solidarity...

This experience, in which a nation of some one hundred forty million directly or indirectly participated, opened a new way of life to those who sought an alternative to anti-social capitalism on the one hand, and totalitarian state bogus socialism on the other.

...When I had first arrived in America in April of 1936 to monitor the upcoming Congress of Soviets election, I was confronted with the freshness of the revolutionary fervor. It was as if the revolution had happened yesterday. Only later did I realize that the revolutionary fervor was still high because it had not ended yet. Practically every building of any size had been seized by the workers and was draped with the red and black flag of the revolution; every wall was scrawled with the hammer and sickle and with the initials of the revolutionary parties; The churches were reformed, preachers now speaking to lending a hand to humanity and God's love than the wrath of the all-mighty. Every shop and cafe had an inscription saying that it had been collectivized; even the bootblacks had been collectivized and their boxes painted red and black. Waiters and shop-walkers looked you in the face and treated you as an equal.

Servile and even ceremonial forms of speech had disappeared. Nobody said 'Mister' or 'Sir'; everyone called everyone else 'Comrade' (rarely, 'Brother' or 'Sister'). Tipping was now forbidden by law; almost my first experience was receiving a lecture from a hotel manager for trying to tip a lift-boy. There were few private motor-cars, most had all been commandeered, and the trams and taxis and much of the other transport were painted red and black. The revolutionary posters were everywhere, flaming from the walls in clean reds and blues that made the few remaining advertisements look like daubs of mud. As throngs of people passed through the city's busy arteries, the radios on the street corners and in the shops bellowed revolutionary songs and broadcasts of the public assembly's meetings. And it was the aspect of the crowds that was the queerest thing of all. In outward appearance it was a city of millions in which the wealthy classes had practically ceased to exist. Except for a small number of women and foreigners there were no 'well-dressed' people at all. Practically everyone wore rough denim working-class clothes, or blue overalls or some variant of militia uniform. The greatly diminished number of women who still wore dresses or skirts were far less modest than before the revolution; 'To save fabric' one girl explained. 'Freedom to be a woman and not be smothered by a blanket,' explained another. All this was queer and moving. There was much in this that I did not understand, in some ways I did not even like it, but I recognized it immediately as a state of affairs worth fighting for...so far as one could judge the people were contented and hopeful. There was no unemployment, and the price of living was still extremely low; you saw very few conspicuously destitute people, and no beggars. Above all, there was a belief in the revolution and the future, a feeling of having suddenly emerged into an era of equality and freedom. Human beings were trying to behave as human beings and not as cogs in the capitalist machine.[1]

[1] (original footnote) This was a rewrite of various passages from Homage to Catalonia by Orwell, with the hopes of capturing Orwell's style.
 
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I mean it sounds way less unpleasant than the Soviet Union in this time period (I mean, it's hard to be more unpleasant then Stalinist USSR but the 20th Century managed it somehow!) but I am worried that their is very little private space-everything seems very public and displayed.

"The transformation of the country has been amazing. Very quickly, much of the land in American South was collectively cultivated by the former tenant farmers themselves, without landlords, without bosses, and without instituting capitalist competition to spur production. The government's collectivization programmes, for all their promises, have been most shameful. In the South, the old foremen and plantation owners have been replaced by party apparatchik, favored for political nepotism than leadership skills. Power inequalities, between worker and manager, have been preserved, not eradicated, especially with the ongoing de facto segregation in the so-called "African Federal National Republic"."

This seems-not good is the best way of describing it. I mean, collectivization when done from the top generally doesn't end well. Having said that, I am very much in favour of breaking up large estates and redistributing land to the people who works it-that, historically, has been a great way of spreading wealth and making for a more egalitarian society.

I guess my deep loathing of inequality and injustice is tempered by my suspicion of grand overarching designs to fix them-and a deep-rooted belief in the primacy of individual liberty and the value of privacy. The latter means I often find myself in agreement with the left (and far-left) more then the right. I am always, however, opposed to tyranny, no matter what cause it is in the name of. Stalinism, Nazism, Tsarism-those who would fight against those things I consider friends.
 
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"The transformation of the country has been amazing. Very quickly, much of the land in American South was collectively cultivated by the former tenant farmers themselves, without landlords, without bosses, and without instituting capitalist competition to spur production. The government's collectivization programmes, for all their promises, have been most shameful. In the South, the old foremen and plantation owners have been replaced by party apparatchik, favored for political nepotism than leadership skills. Power inequalities, between worker and manager, have been preserved, not eradicated, especially with the ongoing de facto segregation in the so-called "African Federal National Republic"."

This seems-not good is the best way of describing it. I mean, collectivization when done from the top generally doesn't end well. Having said that, I am very much in favour of breaking up large estates and redistributing land to the people who works it-that, historically, has been a great way of spreading wealth and making for a more egalitarian society.
I recall a short story where a newly-collectivized farm in the South had one of these apparatchiks come along and do a fat lot of nothing to help them, but the political structure of the USAR made it possible to both get the useless nepotist booted out and replaced with someone who actually knew what they were doing.

These kinds of collectivization schemes usually fail because they're forced with an iron hand - someone comes along and says 'you WILL collectivize this way and you WILL follow instructions from this probably-clueless Party man and if you don't like it tough shit.' I think this is something that could happen from both a centralized state and from a local commune; the problem is not that it happens top-down, it's that it's done without consideration for the workers it's supposedly liberating.
 
I recall a short story where a newly-collectivized farm in the South had one of these apparatchiks come along and do a fat lot of nothing to help them, but the political structure of the USAR made it possible to both get the useless nepotist booted out and replaced with someone who actually knew what they were doing.

These kinds of collectivization schemes usually fail because they're forced with an iron hand - someone comes along and says 'you WILL collectivize this way and you WILL follow instructions from this probably-clueless Party man and if you don't like it tough shit.' I think this is something that could happen from both a centralized state and from a local commune; the problem is not that it happens top-down, it's that it's done without consideration for the workers it's supposedly liberating.

There's a lot of truth to that. I must admit to being more inclined to favour land being parcelled and creating a new group of propertied small-holders then I am collectivisation, although as you saying the important thing is that the process be accountable and democratic.
 
Mostly due to the fact that OTL communist nations follow very strong top-down command economies and totalitarian politics, despite trying to reach for the idealized community utopia. The New Soviet Man idea is, if I'm not just equivocating, similar to the various attempts at 'correcting' human nature and behavior in the intentional communities.


is this you?
 
Indeed, even after the events of World War II, the atomic bombing of the Japanese fleet in the Korean Strait,
So in this timeline, there is no continuing outrage in debates about the morality or lack thereof about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings because Japanese cities weren't nuked?
 

I personally think human nature is malleable to a degree, but until we can control both genetics and neurological processes, human instincts would need to be put into consideration as well as not fall for the "be all positive, no negative, and you can change the world" woo mindset.

Then again, my position is more social democrat since my issue is more "make sure that the safety net is wide and strong enough to help deal with social problems" than "eliminate capitalism and narcissistic individuality".
 
If you had complete control over someone's childhood circumstances and raised them like a dog; they would act like a dog.

People are extremely plastic and most things we assume are inherent are just cultural biases particular to us and people like us rather than anything inherent.
 
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