Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline
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The Jovian
It's not Easy being a Red Gas Giant
- Location
- Greenbury, Randomshire
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Fiorello La Guardia
Floyd Olson
Andrew Mellon
Richard Nixon
Ronald Reagan
Floyd Olson
Andrew Mellon
Richard Nixon
Ronald Reagan
- Location
- Singapore
- Pronouns
- He/Him
What's Amelia Earhart doing?
J.R.R. Tolkien unfortunately will hate the UASR (he publishes Hobbit that year OTL).
C.S. Lewis and Roald Dahl likely also dislike the UASR.
George Orwell on the other hand probably wants to move there.
Also, these people were born that year OTL. Do they exist in TTL?
Anthony Hopkins December 31st
Shirley Bassey January 8th
Madeleine Albright May 15th -- Prague, Czechoslovakia
Bill Cosby July 12th -- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
Jane Fonda December 21st -- New York City, New York, U.S.
Morgan Freeman June 1st -- Memphis, Tennessee, U.S.
Dustin Hoffman August 8th -- Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Jack Nicholson April 22nd -- New York City, New York, U.S.
Colin Powell April 5th -- Harlem, New York , U.S.
Since there's no way the Hindenburg is connecting UASR and Germany, where is it serving?
Also, since I'm from Singapore, Tan Kah Kee and Lee Kong Chian.
J.R.R. Tolkien unfortunately will hate the UASR (he publishes Hobbit that year OTL).
C.S. Lewis and Roald Dahl likely also dislike the UASR.
George Orwell on the other hand probably wants to move there.
Also, these people were born that year OTL. Do they exist in TTL?
Anthony Hopkins December 31st
Shirley Bassey January 8th
Madeleine Albright May 15th -- Prague, Czechoslovakia
Bill Cosby July 12th -- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
Jane Fonda December 21st -- New York City, New York, U.S.
Morgan Freeman June 1st -- Memphis, Tennessee, U.S.
Dustin Hoffman August 8th -- Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Jack Nicholson April 22nd -- New York City, New York, U.S.
Colin Powell April 5th -- Harlem, New York , U.S.
Since there's no way the Hindenburg is connecting UASR and Germany, where is it serving?
Also, since I'm from Singapore, Tan Kah Kee and Lee Kong Chian.
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Baron Steakpuncher
Hopeful Idealist
- Location
- Australia
Robert Menzies
Jack Lang
Floyd Olson
Claus von Stauffenberg
Jack Lang
Floyd Olson
Claus von Stauffenberg
Durabys
Miaow! Break the Chains!
- Location
- the land of the Boii
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Who wants to bet that this universes' Lord of the Rings will include a Sauron being part of a Team-Up of Evil with some kind of western continent dwelling immortal witch/succubus/demon seductress/evil she-Maia, with both them being Morgoth's old lieutenants?
And that the actual Good Guys Powers (the Valar) won't be "from the hidden True West of Flatearth Arda" but "from the Stars"?
Every new story post reminds me that anyone from Reds!-verse 21st-century Comintern would have as big of a culture shock if they were dropped into OTL 2019 as some average 1st world citizen from OTL being dropped into 2019 Reds!-verse.
Especially because of the massive cultural dissonance between OTL and Reds! works of culture that on first glance look similar but really aren't.
Example of the clossest thing I can think of that is similar to what I meant: People are not really freaked out by industrial robots in factories. People are freaked out by humanoid robots that look EXTREMELY like a human would...but are just ever so slightly different that causes all alarm bells to go off in one's head.
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The Jovian
It's not Easy being a Red Gas Giant
- Location
- Greenbury, Randomshire
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'd love to be dropped into 2019 Reds!-verse (I'm sure TTL Bulgaria as part of Yugoslavia is much, much better than OTL Bulgaria). As for TTL Lord of the Rings being an allegory for the AFS vs TCI Cold War, just remember what Tolkien once said about allegory.
EDIT: Unless of course I wind up in the FBU instead, which would suck.
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Durabys
Miaow! Break the Chains!
- Location
- the land of the Boii
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Emphasis mine:
I do not consider myself or you average citizen. Or anyone in this thread or the story's Discord channel.
If I should use OTL US politics definition of average citizen: By average I mean someone like a Democrat Centrist or RINO. Perhaps Progressive Democrats (e.g. AOC, Bernie, Warren) and Pro-Business Republicans (e.g. DINO's and assorted groups) being at the maximum deviation from the above average. With the alt!right and (actual) democratic socialists not being considered for this scenario at all.
If I should use Reds! verse Comintern average? Well. I don't know much about their internal politics in the 21st century or then people who vote in their elections beyond the fact that 95% of their population votes for parties that would be considered, by OTL'S average human's rightwing-biased perspective on leftism, just "many different shades of the same leftist extremism", with the above reviewing OTL individual being unable to differentiate "what is actually the difference beyond the surface cosmetics?".
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Plus the OTL storyline of Numenor sinking beneath the waves after defying God already fits this world's history quite well, at least from Tolkien's perspective.
- Location
- This website, obvs
I'd like to know if MLK Jr. exists and if anything has changed in his life. Same for Malcolm X.
Tommy Douglas, please.
- Pronouns
- It/Its
Have we learned if Batman happened?
Miss Teri
The Queen
- Location
- West
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Mostly solidarity with Cuba and the White exile community, yes. The consort part is meant to appease the Royal Family.
And yes, the Duke of York and his family are still the same.
More questions, troika:
1. Does HIV/AIDS exist ITTL?
2. This is the year 2019 of Our Lord. Has male birth control been available ITTL? If yes, how did it come about?
3. Based on the way UASR citizens approach sex and treat sex workers, is "Girlfriend Experience" or "traveling companion" a thing among sex workers in UASR?
Also, I'm curious about the figures below:
Henry Kissinger
Soedirman
Soekarno
Ayn Rand
Roy Cohn
Joe McCarthy
Elizabeth Bentley
Rafael Trujillo
Mister Rogers
Lee Kuan Yew
1. Does HIV/AIDS exist ITTL?
2. This is the year 2019 of Our Lord. Has male birth control been available ITTL? If yes, how did it come about?
3. Based on the way UASR citizens approach sex and treat sex workers, is "Girlfriend Experience" or "traveling companion" a thing among sex workers in UASR?
Also, I'm curious about the figures below:
Henry Kissinger
Soedirman
Soekarno
Ayn Rand
Roy Cohn
Joe McCarthy
Elizabeth Bentley
Rafael Trujillo
Mister Rogers
Lee Kuan Yew
- Location
- The Old Dominion
Speaking of historical figures while we had a earlier talk about Mister Rogers but I recall Charles Adams, the creator of the Adams family is another figure if a eccentric one with a long standing cultural impact who was alive during this time. I am almost afraid he'd might run afoul of authorizes exactly because of his eccentric character and that I suspect he likely won't modify his popular cartoons to met revolutionary ideals.
en.wikipedia.org
Charles Addams - Wikipedia
Katamariguy
Pessimist. Contrarian. Naysayer.
- Location
- Upstate NY
Probably making my areas of special interest clear enough, hope it's not an unreasonably long list.
- William Faulkner
- Alduous Huxley
- Ezra Pound
- JD Salinger
- Vladimir Nabokov
- Jorge Luis Borges
- B Traven, author of Treasure of the Sierra Madre
- Albert Einstein (lots of physicists really, won't name any more)
- Walter Benjamin
- Fritz Lang
- Frank Capra
- Humphrey Bogart
- Igor Sikorsky
- Bertrand Russell
- Hannah Arendt
- Howard Hughes
- W Randolph Hearst
- Jack Northrop (Aircraft designer)
- Duke Ellington
- Louis Armstrong
- Cab Calloway
- Sister Rosetta Tharpe
- Fats Waller
- Nikolai Bukharin (who probably doesn't have long to live)
- Leon Trotsky
- Francisco Franco
- William Faulkner
- Alduous Huxley
- Ezra Pound
- JD Salinger
- Vladimir Nabokov
- Jorge Luis Borges
- B Traven, author of Treasure of the Sierra Madre
- Albert Einstein (lots of physicists really, won't name any more)
- Walter Benjamin
- Fritz Lang
- Frank Capra
- Humphrey Bogart
- Igor Sikorsky
- Bertrand Russell
- Hannah Arendt
- Howard Hughes
- W Randolph Hearst
- Jack Northrop (Aircraft designer)
- Duke Ellington
- Louis Armstrong
- Cab Calloway
- Sister Rosetta Tharpe
- Fats Waller
- Nikolai Bukharin (who probably doesn't have long to live)
- Leon Trotsky
- Francisco Franco
- Pronouns
- It/Its
Rosa Luxembourg
Kiridifferent
Take your time to remember me.
- Location
- Empty Sekai
- Pronouns
- They/She
Maxim Litvinov
Mikhail Tukhachevsky
Andrei Vlasov
Maria Spiridonova
Evans Carlson
Norman Bethune
Milovan Djilas
Alexander Dubcek
Anton Pannekoek
Henk Sneevliet
Anna Seghers
Bertolt Brecht
Ta Thu Thau
Aung San
M.N. Roy
Ali Shariati
Mikhail Tukhachevsky
Andrei Vlasov
Maria Spiridonova
Evans Carlson
Norman Bethune
Milovan Djilas
Alexander Dubcek
Anton Pannekoek
Henk Sneevliet
Anna Seghers
Bertolt Brecht
Ta Thu Thau
Aung San
M.N. Roy
Ali Shariati
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It should still exist as the fundamental causes should not have been affected by AH politics. It is currently thought that the viral crossover event occurred in 1910-1930 in southern Cameroon, with a significant centre of infection being Leopoldville. Bushmeat was a common source of food and the urbanization caused by colonialism created prime areas for infection. Therefore, the only way to realistically butterfly away the HIV epidemic would be to somehow greatly reduce the consumption of bushmeat, improve the education of Africans, butterfly away colonialism and/or have HIV be recognized far earlier.
Regency
PFP by vanathema (previously yubishines)
- Location
- Morioh Town, Mt. Ebbot
- Pronouns
- They/Them
If DFLP & (especially) DRP types fellow travelers who aren't exactly ardent communist or anarchists can coast along just fine, I would think he will just manage. MDSS is can be as authoritarian as OTL FBI, but unless he's specifically outspoken anti-revolution he'll be just one of the eccentric auteurs who populate the creative workers' unions now running American cinema/animation.
edit: words not making sense,may habe missed more :/
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This makes me wonder the future of the crown. I assume Bertie will live a bit longer without the stress of being king, but probably still dies before his brother, and so Liz becomes queen in the late 60s or early 70s
That's assuming he doesn't manage to have a son in that time.
Miss Teri
The Queen
- Location
- West
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Stay tuned
- Location
- The left-wing of the impossible
There are pros and cons to it, part of the problem the Empire had IOTL was that there were so many personal fiefdoms in the military bureaucracy that they could act without any effective control by the central government.
Unfortunately, it's logistically impossible. Ethiopia is landlocked, and all the access points to the country are effectively closed. They either belong to Italy itself, or are part of the British and French colonial empires, who aren't going to let foreign soldiers pass through to aid Ethiopia. Additionally, the infrastructure and terrain are very rough.
Political disenfranchisement. Declassed members of the bourgeoisie and people who had been part of counterrevolutionary groups in the civil war lose their right to vote, to serve on juries, run for public office, etc. The small numbers of privately held businesses face a similar revocation. You can get it back, but you basically have to demonstrate that you're sufficiently zealous for the cause .
Yes, in one of his few public statements, General Sanjurjo dismisses reports of the Condor Legion bombing civilian areas by dismissing it as communist propaganda, that they were actually relief packages.
They were until this point. This does drive a wedge between nationalists and communists.
It will not be known for some time just how extensive the Yezhovischina is. The prominent trials will result in criticism, but the levers turning behind the scene will be known only to American intelligence and the highest levels of government, and they will be largely complicit in keeping the information suppressed for some time.
China also never experienced the same level of investment from British, French and German capital TTL. There's no real "Nanjing decade", a more modest expansion driven post 1933 by American and Soviet capital is occurring, so take that into account. The warlord problem is a bit better under control, but it's far from over.
Tolkien detested allegory, and he didn't really view industrial capitalism as any different in principle from Soviet "state socialism". He was a medievalist at heart, and that is woven into all of his work set in Middle Earth. We've been treating his work as largely unchanged in any major details.
1. HIV still exists, but the nature of its spread is still undetermined.
2. It's unlikely to be any more advanced than IOTL. The biomedical issues with male birth control are more complicated, and it's widely seen as just simpler to promote barrier contraceptives because they also prevent the spread of venereal diseases.
3. Given the going rate that those sorts of services have, it's unlikely to be common in the formal market. That said, there will probably be plenty of people of both sexes who enter into casual relationships with older and more economically successful people because they take them travelling, give them stuff, etc.
His mariage is describes morganatic, that means his children won't have any inheritance rights.