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Now I'm just stuck thinking about all my other favorite media properties: Halo, Star Wars, Mass Effect, etc and how a (primarily) communist world would impact them. I mean, minus the main government of the UEG, the fighters in the interplanetary wars, and some minor in game stuff; I doubt Halo changes much in the way of game story path seeing. You fight a hostile, authoritarian, theocratic empire, kind of hard to think of another big enemy for a communist world minus throwing in fascistic as well.
 
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coldwar said:
Now I'm just stuck thinking about all my other favorite media properties: Halo, Star Wars, Mass Effect, etc and how a (primarily) communist world would impact them. I mean, minus the main government of the UEG, the fighters in the interplanetary wars, and some minor in game stuff; I doubt Halo changes much in the way of game story path seeing. You fight a hostile, authoritarian, theocratic empire, kind of hard to think of another big enemy for a communist world minus throwing in fascistic as well.
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Maybe have the human faction be more openly socialist on goverment and asthetics instead of being a more technologically advanced neoliberalism like it is in OTL
 
AG_AG said:
Maybe have the human faction be more openly socialist on goverment and asthetics instead of being a more technologically advanced neoliberalism like it is in OTL
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I mean yeah, but that aside I doubt much really changes, I doubt that Lord Hood would be the same character; seeing as he was a British noble. Unless of course some changes occur between relations but that aside, I guess maybe how the Shaw-Fujikawa slip space drive is made, and the military-industrial complex of Mirishia Armory, Sino-Viet heavy industry, and others would not be a thing. I could see the insurrectionists still existing. Off of Halo, on to Star Wars, at least in the Original Trilogy not much really changes, maybe the rebels have more overt socialist and communist parallels but that aside, it still works fine in Reds!. Probably the Prequel Trilogy would be changed somewhat I suppose, or maybe you could keep the same to show the issues with neoliberal democracies and corporatism.
 
coldwar said:
Now I'm just stuck thinking about all my other favorite media properties: Halo, Star Wars, Mass Effect, etc and how a (primarily) communist world would impact them. I mean, minus the main government of the UEG, the fighters in the interplanetary wars, and some minor in game stuff; I doubt Halo changes much in the way of game story path seeing. You fight a hostile, authoritarian, theocratic empire, kind of hard to think of another big enemy for a communist world minus throwing in fascistic as well.
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Damn i really liked Miss Teri's post about the Browder isekai there. I wish she would continue it and expand the lore a bit, but it seems like shes forgotten about it since it has been two years ago.
 
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@Miss TeriI think that you accidentally clicked something
 
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I won't expand on it, but I do have an idea for another prominent American communist.
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Ooh, I hope it's going to be Hall reading his story and the larger US communist party makes me pretty sad about his circumstances. This is a man whose party was so thoroughly infiltrated by the FBI and who got repeatedly screwed over in life, yet even in the end he still believed in the whole Marxist-Leninist thing. So it would be a great service for him to see a world where his US revolution dream is achieved.
 
coldwar said:
Now I'm just stuck thinking about all my other favorite media properties: Halo, Star Wars, Mass Effect, etc and how a (primarily) communist world would impact them. I mean, minus the main government of the UEG, the fighters in the interplanetary wars, and some minor in game stuff; I doubt Halo changes much in the way of game story path seeing. You fight a hostile, authoritarian, theocratic empire, kind of hard to think of another big enemy for a communist world minus throwing in fascistic as well.
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TTL's Star Wars has been talked about a lot.

In Halo's case, a very tentantive plan is for it to be an Americuban production while Marathon is made in the UASR. I could see it being relatively unchanged (accounting for how it's not being produced in a world transitioning from End of History euphoria to War on Terror uncertainty like OTL is), except more right wing in outlook since Martin O'Donnell gets to have more creative influence over the world-building. So, you can expect things like the Covenant being more outwardly coded as catholic and the whole concept of Space Jannissaries in the Spartans being even more glorified.
 
Oh, well that's a shame. Makes sense I suppose for Halo to be made in Americuba though. I just found the idea of a socialist/communist Halo game to be fun to theorize on how it would work.
 
coldwar said:
Oh, well that's a shame. Makes sense I suppose for Halo to be made in Americuba though. I just found the idea of a socialist/communist Halo game to be fun to theorize on how it would work.
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Given the nature of game development in the UASR, I could imagine Halo getting a cult following there which could inspire the creation of something close to what you're thinking of.
 
At least one fangame where you get to play as the Insurrectionists who the SPARTANs were supposed to crush, of course. Because it's not like TTL's Halo lore doesn't already make you wonder who the good guys were...
 
Well, there's still always GDI fighting Kane and Nod in Rise & Revolt (in-universe Command & Conquer).
 
Raiho-kun said:
TTL's Star Wars has been talked about a lot.

In Halo's case, a very tentantive plan is for it to be an Americuban production while Marathon is made in the UASR. I could see it being relatively unchanged (accounting for how it's not being produced in a world transitioning from End of History euphoria to War on Terror uncertainty like OTL is), except more right wing in outlook since Martin O'Donnell gets to have more creative influence over the world-building. So, you can expect things like the Covenant being more outwardly coded as catholic and the whole concept of Space Jannissaries in the Spartans being even more glorified.
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That was like, written a decade ago mostly to get a rise out of people. We might change it.
 
I think Halo could be ported over to a socialist society and still stay fairly recognizable. The EU background is rather neoliberal in its assumptions about eternal capitalist dominance (though amusingly it also had neo-Bolsheviks becoming a major movement in the setting's early history so I guess the writers couldn't imagine the permanent death of socialism either :V) but the main plot isn't really focused on that. Halo's core premise has always been fighting the Covenant, the Flood, or both in a variety of locales. And neither faction seem really too out of line for a socialist society.

Despite the Covenant being a direct product of early 2000 anxieties about Muslim religious fundamentalism the end product was vague enough that they can decently serve as a stand-in for broad theocratic fanaticism. Which given how reliably reactionary and anti-socialist such movements tend to be wouldn't need much alteration to fit as a villain in the UASR. I suspect the biggest change would be the EU focusing more on the Covenant's economic system to emphasize how it resolves class conflict through collaboration and naked repression, presumably they'd explicitly make them Space!corporatists to better critique fascists while keeping the ultra-reactionary medieval vibe.

The Flood seem even simpler to transfer over, presumably the UASR still has some kind of biohorror tradition. Whatever Bungie's ITTL equivalent is would probably draw from that. Even better if Alien still gets written and they have the same inspiration. Either way "monsters that make more of themselves by nightmarishly mutating living/dead humans" is sufficiently simple and appealing to atavistic fears that I don't think they need much alteration to fit with butterflies.
 
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If you mean a Yakuza Series ITTL, it depends. The conditions that formed the Yakuza as we know it today aren't present in the Socialist Republic of Nippon, given that pre-existing Yakuza have largely been forced to move operations (to Entente South Asia, Australasia and even parts of Africa) after a series of post-war purging and are now largely syndicated with the similarly-displaced Triads to the point where they're largely the same transnational group, akin to the different US-based ethnic mob groups coming together in Americuba. Also, the discrimination against Zainichi Koreans and Burakumin which gave the post-war Yakuza a large part of its membership, while still not completely erased, has been effectively curbed.

Outside of Nippon, I could see a Not-Yakuza being produced in TTL's Malaysia or Singapore (or Hong Kong albeit largely more Chinese-influenced), but more on those places later.
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Me: *reads this post*
Me: *immediately experiences flashback to a certain (in)famous Worm fanfic one-shot*
 
Silent Runner said:
Uhhh, Twilight of the Red Tsar was written by a completely different author. Also, comparing it to TFoM is unfair; I'm probably being generous, but I never got the feeling that the author was pushing the basically total victory of the Right in America and other places as a good thing. There are still non-bloodthirsty leftist regimes in places like Cuba and Hungary and they are more or less portrayed sympathetically.
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That's how I remember it, too. The surviving Fascist Italy is not a nice happy place by the author's intent. It gleefully commits the genocide of the Croats (with the Allies and the Soviets turning a blind eye to it, because, well, the NDH is a thing in this TL, too, and as bad as in OTL) and Slovenes, and then somewhere in the 1960s nukes Addis Ababa to stop the anti-colonial uprising in Ethiopia.

But the post-Stalin USSR is damn weird, and Malenkov having a supernatural vision and turning into a devout Tolstoyite pacifist takes the cake.

No argument about NDCR, though. This one has turned into a misery porn-cum-conservative power fantasy (with Steve fucking Bannon serving with distinction in the US Navy!), so that it's got booed off the scene and its writer, IIRC, banned.
 
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