Whose idea wasn't to get proper guns when we had the chance?
Reaching for the Stars - A Stargate Quest
To be fair even when we had the option of which branch to take, the Army would probably have classified our facility as strictly non-front-line, so no M4s for us until we demonstrated an explicit need for same-- and they're not even fully adopted yet by the Army for frontline, either.
Well we have a casualty report to slap under the nose of anyone with clearance now.
- Location
- New England, State of Confusion
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I hope we can spin it as "no where else to go, refugees status, we get some intel on the side."
So we do have access to the Abydos Cartouche, though presumably we can only keep it in the form of recordings... which in the show was successful.
So far we've been hit decently hard, but we... are actually in roughly the same place as the show, progress-wise, we just skipped the bit with SG-1 going to Chulak. And Daniel's family hasn't been kidnapped.
No one's been infested, probably.
Apophis will be pissed, but short of grabbing the nearest Jaffa and sending them through the gate - which he has no reason to think will work after just being repelled - he'll need time to gather a force capable of pushing the gate. That's probably going to be something, even primitive armies take some time to get organized. Maybe he has a QRF ready to go at any given time, but... while it may be the mortal sin of underestimating your enemy, that seems unusually competent for Goa'uld.
Whether it's enough to save Abydos is... another question. But hey, holding the gate open long enough for all of them to evacuate also means he can't attack...
Issue is where do we put them. We can't settle them in the US without a security breach. We need to locate a settlement sight for them asap.
So idea what if after we get nearly everyone off that rock we hoist the gate as high as we can so anyone coming out falls to their death?
Or we just collapse the gateroom.
Or we just collapse the gateroom.
- Location
- Germany
Not really. The inciting incident was an attack on US personell after all. Which is also why nobody batted an eye when you asked for those M2 machine guns. You even got the good Raufoss rounds in case the aliens got an APC or something.
The Iris is a really good defense. Assuming show specs, it both allows the Gate to actually open, but prevents anything from actually *materializing* on our end because the Iris's surface is less than an atom's width from a wormhole. That means stuff can go through, but just sorta disintegrates when it gets there. The only thing that's really threatened it is subverting the code procedure to open it, or a mid-series attack by a specialized weapon that heat up the Iris by sub atomic particles.
Edit: Nevermind you meant the Abydos Gate. Yeah burying it is standard procedure.
For our gate when we rebuild/replace the gate room how about we combo the iris with an moat and extending bridge. Even if you get past the Iris good luck dealing with the fact you are stuck on a platform in the middle of a killbox with 12 M2s browning mounted on remote weapon stations alongside manned pillboxes pointed right at you.
If anyone wishes to get through the iris they'd have to go with the gate overheat strategy. I'm not sure if anyone knows that one yet.
Maybe have the platform from my idea be over a pool of water? Then we can blast the Iris with a firehose if someone figures out the overheat trick.
Depends a lot on the material, which I'm unfamiliar with. That might cool it down too fast and cause it to become brittle and/or spall from the thermal stress.
ETA: this is probably exactly the sort of thing that went on while everyone in R+D was debating how to make the iris...
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Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
I think you mean M5, M4 is what the army used before the new M5. The HK417 our SG Teams are currently using is the real name of the M27 IAR that is currently used by the marines to replace their SAWs and M16.
Yes, thank you, that _is_ what I meant.
Takareer
Words and feathers
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
I'm really enjoying this quest! It's interesting and well-written, and it keeps a canon feel while going far beyond it in terms of plot. Extremely excited for each update!
This was a really cool scene; I can easily imagine it happening in the show.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
So, since QM mentioned that the Cartouche is actually within reach and we have locals who are alive that can point us to it I say that we have a possible place to move the locals to. Finding a planet that is safe enough to inhabit and does not have any Gould would take a while so for now, if we have the whole mountain to ourselves, we could likely just have a tent city outside the mountain until we find a new planet for them.
Its a real shame our new Hero is killed of before her first fight tho. We spent a whole action on her. We'll probably have her death on our conscious now. Yi would probably get a promotion and a medal so good on him.
We have an Iris so Earth is fine for now as well as the fact that it is under the protected planets treaty, Apophis won't send a fleet since an Asgard fleet would slap it down. We have Teal'c that we could question about the Gould as well as give us good estimation on Apophis's resources, so the intel would be a gold mine as well as provide us with targets for our SF guys to sabotage or lead insurrections on. The Green Berets are ideal as their job is to integrate with locals with hearts and minds. No need for open rebellion but they are trained to act independently and make good judgement calls so we could set them loose and expect a report every month or so.
For weapons, M5 would be great to have. An MGL per squad should give us the firepower to wipe a horde of Jaffa. And we know that elites get force fields so we need EMP equipment too in the future, if that could disable Jaffa Staffs, even better. For armor, bullet proof ceramic plates should be enough to absorb a Staff blast. An alternative would be the ceramic tiles used on space shuttles which can absorb really high heat and carbonize itself to absorb more heat. Last possibility is Metal Foam plates which can stop bullets by caving in (due to the foam structure) instead of shattering and have air pockets through out the armor to be a really good insulator against energy weapons while also being lighter than conventional ceramic armor.
Last, if possible I would like to put a CIWS in front of the Stargate to mulch any Jaffa with energy shields as soon as they step through or the Replicators in the future if we get that far.
Let me know if I missed something.
Its a real shame our new Hero is killed of before her first fight tho. We spent a whole action on her. We'll probably have her death on our conscious now. Yi would probably get a promotion and a medal so good on him.
We have an Iris so Earth is fine for now as well as the fact that it is under the protected planets treaty, Apophis won't send a fleet since an Asgard fleet would slap it down. We have Teal'c that we could question about the Gould as well as give us good estimation on Apophis's resources, so the intel would be a gold mine as well as provide us with targets for our SF guys to sabotage or lead insurrections on. The Green Berets are ideal as their job is to integrate with locals with hearts and minds. No need for open rebellion but they are trained to act independently and make good judgement calls so we could set them loose and expect a report every month or so.
For weapons, M5 would be great to have. An MGL per squad should give us the firepower to wipe a horde of Jaffa. And we know that elites get force fields so we need EMP equipment too in the future, if that could disable Jaffa Staffs, even better. For armor, bullet proof ceramic plates should be enough to absorb a Staff blast. An alternative would be the ceramic tiles used on space shuttles which can absorb really high heat and carbonize itself to absorb more heat. Last possibility is Metal Foam plates which can stop bullets by caving in (due to the foam structure) instead of shattering and have air pockets through out the armor to be a really good insulator against energy weapons while also being lighter than conventional ceramic armor.
Last, if possible I would like to put a CIWS in front of the Stargate to mulch any Jaffa with energy shields as soon as they step through or the Replicators in the future if we get that far.
Let me know if I missed something.
Other than my usual note to make sure you have the logistics of it sorted out before we send it through the gate, this seems like a solid plan given the technology we have right now.
ETA: AS evidence-- SG-1 was out for three days and was ammo dry when we got back to them, possibly after only the first fire-fight in the gate room and skirmishes afterwards. We can expect this any time we send a team into a combat zone for longer than a day, or even less.
Keeping them supplied on longer missions is going to be a headache for us, given we're in command here.
ETA: AS evidence-- SG-1 was out for three days and was ammo dry when we got back to them, possibly after only the first fire-fight in the gate room and skirmishes afterwards. We can expect this any time we send a team into a combat zone for longer than a day, or even less.
Keeping them supplied on longer missions is going to be a headache for us, given we're in command here.
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Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
I remember that UGV drones exist that follow a squad while carrying all of their gear. Lockheed Martin has the SMSS that can carry a half ton of supplies, can lock on soldiers and follow them around, have Lidar and infra-red sensors, and is plenty small enough to fit through he gate.
- Location
- Germany
It also depends on what kind of ship he used to escape, if he used a ship.
If it is an Al'kesh, he has considerably fewer options than if it is a Ha'Tak.
With the latter, he doesn't have to send Jaffa, he could just incinerate the planet from orbit.
Sounds like gate to me.
Welp that could have been better but it could ave been a hell of a lot worse.