You know I was actually going to ask if any part of Leizi's Espionage involved minor, completely mundane hacking knowledge, ability to self-disguise, or knowing how to hide and sneak around.
I made a hacker as part of her network for a candidate someone for when she didnt want eves help

Edit: BTw the minute we get Cisma DNA I vote we make a hero with her powers. While its our only choice right now The Frozen throne prison is risky since we dont know what effects creating a prison will have on the throne.

We know the throne is self aware enough to kill of teleporters after memoria saved nox afterall.
 
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Honestly its risky bit having leizi alone while BS is on the wings to attack after the trap is sprung. Would maximize everyones abilities.

Despite her invulnerability BS powers just isnt suited for close quarters.

Then again all they really know about BS is being a blaster strong enough to fight a behemoth with yeh but just a blaster.
 
Yeah I think that the call for a Clairvoyance Combo is going to have to leave one of Memoria/Chatroom/iSpy on the cutting room floor for a much more manageable 9-to-6 combo.
 
Hey,so handyman can shapeshift. Can he become hiver?

Leaving afterwards should be possible for him.

Something like:
-hm takes the job.
-lz and bs go in and distract the others.
-mg waits with army
-hm smuggles a racoon in a hollow body.
-hm smuggles a disguise in his hollow body
-racoon makes noise near hiver
-hm uses excuse to come look
-hm talks to hiver in a moment alone
-takes hivers appearance
-Hiver takes costume
-menagerie distraction
-hm Shows himself to others as hiver
-real hiver leaves in commotion( they will hopefully be focused on anyone else)

Use any parts of these in any plan you want.
I think some of these could be useful

Edit:Other parts:

-mg makes a large, loud distraction to give those inside a moment to act without supervision

-during meeting handyman changes into iz and returns with bs to meeting in preparation for combat

- during meeting handyman changes into iz and returns with bs to meeting in preparation for iz talking to hiver

-bs offers a spar with sm,in the disguise of a cocky teenager

-hm smuggles several of mg minions inside over several days

-Whoever meets hiver gives them a shield
 
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Yeah I think that the call for a Clairvoyance Combo is going to have to leave one of Memoria/Chatroom/iSpy on the cutting room floor for a much more manageable 9-to-6 combo.
Hmm I think we can remove Memoria there. I spy and Chatroom basically creates a hivemind/network for ridicolous coordination.

With the caveat that the cores needs to keep themselves hidden.

Like im pretty sure this results in about a dozen people being able to share thoughts and senses with each other. Which would allow for superhuman coordination.

Edit: BTW do we have anyway for Leizie or handyman to set up a recording to ger proof that 4 seasons and Powers tried to ambush JU after lying to them?

Should damage their rep which we know ete and printemps cared about atleast.
 
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[X] Plan Sleight Of Hand
-Leizi will attend the meeting 'solo', with a Shield Generator.
-Handyman will take the job and blend in as a janitor.
-At some point early in the meeting, when the 3 Seasons are outside, Maddie will have a small Nevermore clone drop a piece of paper to Hiver, instructing him to take a bathroom break at some point during the meeting.
-Handyman will be inside the bathroom and debrief him on the plan. Handyman will be wearing actual janitor clothing, and give them to Hiver to change into. Hiver should explain at this point how they have leverage over him.
-Handyman will turn into Hiver, come back to the meeting, and standby as Leizi analyzes what the married couple does.
-Hiver will leave in janitor clothing, and rendezvous with Maddie and Mona, who will be observing the proceedings from a distance with binoculars and the comms.


Feel free to elaborate or edit this plan, this is just to get something going for now.
 
This has a lot of moving parts thanks to the nature of the ambush and the fact that while we know it's an ambush, the particulars of it are hard to plan against since we lack the information for it.

We know their goals however, and the means they have on hand to achieve it. To summarize, our foes want Justice Unlimited dead, and they do that by killing Lady Leizi in an ambush.
  • Scarlet Maturity - THE Brick. Regenerates so fast, wounds don't matter to him, and he's physically the strongest person on the planet.
  • Été - Ally Buffer and leader of the 4 Seasons. Able to create fiery weapons.
  • Printemps - Plant manipulation. Able to grow plants that shoot people and grow in size.
  • Hiver - Forcefield creation, and our mole on the inside. Able to create barriers that keep things inside or outside, while also manipulating the direction of gravity in the area caught inside said barrier.
Note that considering Earthen Owl had improved powers, there's a chance that all of the above have new tricks. We'll need to watch out for that, but it does mean that Hiver might also have new abilities.

[X] Plan: Quoth the Raven
-[X] Lady Leizi (Shield Generator)
--[X] She will represent Justice Unlimited during the meeting with 4 Seasons and fish for information until Été either turns hostile, or Powers is spotted on the move, at which point she will attempt to knock the two out with Handyman, Hiver, and Menagerie Witch's horde before making a run for the Apiary.
-[X] Black Swan (Shield Generator)
--[X] On overwatch on a vantage point overlooking the restaurant. She will intercept Powers on their way to Balthazar.
-[X] Menagerie Witch (Shield Generator)
--[X] On overwatch on a vantage point overlooking the restaurant. Her Nevermores are our escape vehicles and her horde will assist as distractions during our ambush and escape. Before hostilities occur, she should have some of her smaller Nevermores serve as lookouts in the streets near Balthazar, ready to alarm her if they spot anything unusual headed our way.
-[X] Handyman
--[X] Infiltrate Balthazar early to scout the place and make contact with Hiver to make sure he acts with us when the ambush is sprung. Additionally, Handyman should find a place to hide in the meeting room itself.

Why give Black Swan a Shield Generator? Because she'll absolutely need it against Scarlet Maturity. Our entire plan hinges on being able to retreat to the Apiary atop Maddie's birds, and that means Black Swan needs to last as long as possible in her duel. Thankfully, she can go supersonic and even lightspeed so she should have no problems outrunning him once everyone's safe back in the Apiary.

As for the plan itself, it leverages Lady Leizi's information network to make sure Scarlet Maturity doesn't surprise us. He's 12ft tall and pretty distinctive, so I don't think he'll be in the restaurant itself when the meeting starts since that would obviously ward Lady Leizi away immediately. As such, I think 4 Seasons will play hardball and keep us in place until Scarlet Maturity crashes the meeting.

We avoid that by having Mona fight SM, and we knock Été and Printemps out with our own ambush after we gather enough information to know that they don't have a bomb collar on Hiver or something. That way, they can't interfere with Mona and SM's duel, and they won't be able to interrupt our escape either.
 
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This has a lot of moving parts thanks to the nature of the ambush and the fact that while we know it's an ambush, the particulars of it are hard to plan against since we lack the information for it.

We know their goals however, and the means they have on hand to achieve it. To summarize, our foes want Justice Unlimited dead, and they do that by killing Lady Leizi in an ambush.
  • Scarlet Maturity - THE Brick. Regenerates so fast, wounds don't matter to him, and he's physically the strongest person on the planet.
  • Été - Ally Buffer and leader of the 4 Seasons. Able to create fiery weapons.
  • Printemps - Plant manipulation. Able to grow plants that shoot people and grow in size.
  • Hiver - Forcefield creation, and our mole on the inside. Able to create barriers that keep things inside or outside, while also manipulating the direction of gravity in the area caught inside said barrier.
Note that considering Earthen Owl had improved powers, there's a chance that all of the above have new tricks. We'll need to watch out for that, but it does mean that Hiver might also have new abilities.

[X] Plan: Quoth the Raven
-[X] Lady Leizi (Shield Generator)
--[X] She will represent Justice Unlimited during the meeting with 4 Seasons and fish for information until Été either turns hostile, or Scarlet Maturity is spotted on the move, at which point she will attempt to knock the two out with Handyman, Hiver, and Menagerie Witch's horde before making a run for the Apiary.
-[X] Black Swan (Shield Generator)
--[X] On overwatch on a vantage point overlooking the restaurant. She will intercept Scarlet Maturity on his way to Balthazar.
-[X] Menagerie Witch (Shield Generator)
--[X] On overwatch on a vantage point overlooking the restaurant. Her Nevermores are our escape vehicles and her horde will assist as distractions during our ambush and escape.
-[X] Handyman
--[X] Infiltrate Balthazar early and make contact with Hiver. Scout the place, and make sure he acts with us when the ambush is sprung. Also, preferably find a place to hide in the meeting room itself.

Why give Black Swan a Shield Generator? Because she'll absolutely need it against Scarlet Maturity. Our entire plan hinges on being able to retreat to the Apiary atop Maddie's birds, and that means Black Swan needs to last as long as possible in her duel. Thankfully, she can go supersonic and even lightspeed so she should have no problems outrunning him once everyone's safe back in the Apiary.

As for the plan itself, it leverages Lady Leizi's information network to make sure Scarlet Maturity doesn't surprise us. He's 12ft tall and pretty distinctive, so I don't think he'll be in the restaurant itself when the meeting starts since that would obviously ward Lady Leizi away immediately. As such, I think 4 Seasons will play hardball and keep us in place until Scarlet Maturity crashes the meeting.

We avoid that by having Mona fight SM, and we knock Été and Printemps out with our own ambush after we gather enough information to know that they don't have a bomb collar on Hiver or something. That way, they can't interfere with Mona and SM's duel, and they won't be able to interrupt our escape either.
Hmm it really is a question if SM alone is hired to take us out or other powers are gonna join too.

that said I think mona with flight and blaster can stall sm by simply staying in the air and basically stick to airstrike.

SMcan pribably jump high or even double junp with his strengh alon with air punches but Those are tricks using super strenght not really how his powers should work unlike BS straight up being how strong does she want her blast to be

[X] Plan: Quoth the Raven

Cant think of anything else other than getting evidence 4 season planned a backstab. Still i agree that our main objective is getting out with hiver.
 
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Hmm it really is a question if SM alone is hired to take us out or other powers are gonna join too.

that said I think mona with flight and blaster can stall sm by simply staying in the air and basically stick to airstrike.

SMcan pribably jump high or even double junp with his strengh alon with air punches but Those are tricks using super strenght not really how his powers should work unlike BS straight up being how strong does she want her blast to be
Even if we assume SM has no range capability, which I doubt since he can probably punch the air hard enough that the sheer force of it counts as an attack, Mona can't just airstrike him forever since he can just heal through that and walk to Balthazar while getting shot. She's going to need to physically get in his way, which is what the shield generator is also for.
 
Honestly I wonder if a barrier of Hiver could hold Scarlet Maturity. I mean, he was able to hold Behemoths...

It depends on how far away/how long he can maintain a barrier. Does he need line of sight? Can he keep one going remotely?

He could drop one on Ete and Pritemps, but given that Pritemps is a long-ranged fighter, he can probably snipe us once we let it go, if it is line-of-sight.
 
Hmm yeh though a blast that can hit his whole body can proabbly stall him a bit.

BTW i think you should add handyman smuggling in Apep contructs in balthazar snakes are pretty stealthy.
 
...I just had a mental readjustment moment because I'd been registering Scarlet Maturity's height as being like, kaiju, Ultraman, giant mech sized. No, 12 feet is tall, but it's not unwieldy big. He's not creating earthquakes every time he steps or anything.
 
Scarlet Maturity has regeneration so strong he appears to be invincible (injuries heal so quickly they appear to not happen), a body that adapts to harm over time, and the greatest super strength on record (can tear the planet in half). He's also like 12 feet tall. Lady Leizi suspects there's more to his power, but that's all that's publicly known.
Here's what Bitterman revealed about SM's publicly known powers. Unless you can one shot him, beating him in a straight up fight is impossible. It's also where I recalled him being 12ft tall.

This does mean he'll likely be resistant to Black Swan's powers the next time they fight, but we can't risk her going all out and not killing him either since she'll be unable to escape afterwards. Not to mention the collateral damage her supermove would cause.
 
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Here's what Bitterman revealed about SM's publicly known powers. Unless you can one shot him, beating him in a straight up fight is impossible. It's also where I recalled himbbeing 12ft tall.

This does mean he'll likely be resistant to Black Swan's powers the next time they fight, but we can't risk her going all out and not killing him either since she'll be unable to escape afterwards. Not to mention the collateral damage her supermove would cause.
It might be worth it to go for the supermove if sm is in the air but in the ground the collateral is toomuch yeh.

That said BS attacks are gravity so maybe BS can focus on just pushing SM away for this fight?

Edit: Also funny enough I think psychic/emotional attacks ala nox and east wind are the best counter for SM.

Cant beat the body? Then fuck with mind and soul.
 
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@LucidProp I will say this about your plan: I think you should account for other members of Power; it may not be just the big man after all. We don't know for sure if it's SM himself coming or other members of Power. I know it has crucial info on how SM's power works, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna be present. The info part will likely come from Hiver and what he has discovered, I think.
 
@LucidProp I will say this about your plan: I think you should account for other members of Power; it may not be just the big man after all. We don't know for sure if it's SM himself coming or other members of Power. I know it has crucial info on how SM's power works, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna be present. The info part will likely come from Hiver and what he has discovered, I think.
Fair, I changed the vote to reference Powers instead of SM.
 
@LucidProp I will say this about your plan: I think you should account for other members of Power; it may not be just the big man after all. We don't know for sure if it's SM himself coming or other members of Power. I know it has crucial info on how SM's power works, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna be present. The info part will likely come from Hiver and what he has discovered, I think.
Yeh hell chance for new metahuman dna maybe about us needing to kill powers member to get out.

I doubt well choose to kill ete and printemps for huvers sake if nothing else other powers members are fair game though if they force the issue.

We know Leizi was nearly killed by Bone marrow in the defiance units last moments
 
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