Well now. It seems the story Henry has crafted is Charles own attempts at gaining power has backfired on him. I do not think Charles is going to be very happy with the turn his life is going to take. He will be far more subdued now.

Putting things out of sight and mind means you have no control over what happens to them.
 
The best part is even if Josette is discovered with his family, there is not evidence that proves Henry guilty beyond what he and likely Karin knows. Josette knows that a mage came in the night and took her away and she awoke at the Vallière home. All this means for the known story is that Josette's icon was lost sometime during her kidnaping and Karin likely found the young mage in the hands of slavers. Knowing Karin's reputation, no one would even bother asking if their were any remains of the slavers left after they encountered the Heavy Wind.

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What? Nah. Clearly Josette. :V
Did someone steal the necromancer ring form the Water Spirit already?:p
 
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I'm pretty sure she's 10 or 11-- they were married at ~10, and a year has passed.
Nah you got things mixed up. They were betrothed when she was 10 and married when she was twelve. See chapter 36:
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I nodded, looking ahead even as Karin took a sudden turn with her manticore to the left, which I followed. "You'll be able to finish your schooling in Tristain," Karin said, "But afterwards, you'll head to Gallia to marry."

"That's-that's in two years!" I exclaimed, "Isabella's what, nine?"

"She'll turn ten this year, and be twelve when you marry," Karin said flatly, "The sooner you marry, the sooner the alliance will become solid."
I assume the mission to pacify the county took a few months. Then there was the one year time skip. After that was the vacation to Albion and then this inquisition which I assume took several more months. Combined with the time Henry had to have spent at the palace then at least 2-3 years have occurred since the marriage.
 
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If the nobles we've seen Henry whale on so far are representative of the average Charles supporter, in all honestly both Charles and Joseph look to be SHIT rulers. Is Isabella the only one in that family who bothers looking at the numbers? :confused:

Well now. It seems the story Henry has crafted is Charles own attempts at gaining power has backfired on him. I do not think Charles is going to be very happy with the turn his life is going to take. He will be far more subdued now.

Putting things out of sight and mind means you have no control over what happens to them.
Which is a major dick move considering Charles wasn't planning to steal the throne before this. Henry has secured Joseph's immediate ascension to King with this move, but he may also have turned Charles from passive enemy of circumstance into an active nemesis. Which is bad since Charles is a magical prodigy and likely still more popular than Douche-seph even with his supporters stripped of power. There's all kinds of fuckery he can do to mess with Joseph's regime without seizing power.

She found a stray, nobody ever said it was a child. Stray dogs and cats are perfectly fitting in with Cattleya's rep as animal snuggler.
The figurine was sealed with the letter. Anyone who opened that and saw the 'evidence' Henry brought back to prove Josette was dead should be able to figure out what happened.
 
If the nobles we've seen Henry whale on so far are representative of the average Charles supporter, in all honestly both Charles and Joseph look to be SHIT rulers. Is Isabella the only one in that family who bothers looking at the numbers?
Quite possibly. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Charles turned out to be a good mage, nice guy, but terrible administrator and ruler. Those are completely different skillsets, and hell, being too much of a nice guy is actually quite a negative characteristic in a monarch, at least given the society they live in.
 
Which is a major dick move considering Charles wasn't planning to steal the throne before this. Henry has secured Joseph's immediate ascension to King with this move, but he may also have turned Charles from passive enemy of circumstance into an active nemesis. Which is bad since Charles is a magical prodigy and likely still more popular than Douche-seph even with his supporters stripped of power. There's all kinds of fuckery he can do to mess with Joseph's regime without seizing power.
Why would Charles be an active enemy? From what Charles can see, the entire situation is his own fault. He was the one who kept his daughter alive in a convent, both disobeying Gallian law and failing to protect and care for her as a father should. He also couldn't control his own supporters, one of whom kidnapped his daughter and got her and himself killed.

None of this is Joseph's fault, nor is it Henri's. The most I could see Charles currently blaming either of them is Joseph being a dick and Henri jumping to Joseph's defense when Charles drew his swordwand on him. The first might create some bad blood between the brothers but, as per canon and the confrontation chapter, Charles already feels quite bitter towards Joseph, and only his stoic composure keeps it from being well-known. The second... I guess if Charles feels petty, he might hold it against Henri, but if he is at all logical, then he will realize that Charles had drawn a weapon against the Regent of Gallia, and he should have expected that sort of reaction.

Yeah, if what Henri has done comes to light, Charles will be an implacable enemy, but none of that is known right now, so, other than a bit of misplaced anger, I don't see why he would hate Henri or Joseph any more than he did before.
 
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Why would Charles be an active enemy? From what Charles can see, the entire situation is his own fault. He was the one who kept his daughter alive in a convent, both disobeying Gallian law and failing to protect and care for her as a father should. He also couldn't control his own supporters, one of whom kidnapped his daughter and got her and himself killed.

None of this is Joseph's fault, nor is it Henri's. The most I could see Charles currently blaming either of them is Joseph being a dick and Henri jumping to Joseph's defense when Charles drew his swordwand on him.

Yeah, if what Henri has done comes to light, Charles will be an implacable enemy, but none of that is known right now. Also, if
Joseph and Henry just spun his personal tragedy into a months-long slander campaign and very purposefully destroyed his power base. Heck yeah, Charles has reason to feel negatively towards them. Not to mention dear Jojo proved he had a few screws loose. There is little to no reason for Charles to want to cooperate with King Joseph's regime. I don't think he'd be trying to murder them yet, but he could definitely throw a wrench in the gears of bureaucracy. 'Losing' important documents, projects losing track of funds, diplomatic incidents... hey, Joseph did it first!

If Henry's involvement in starting the affair comes out then Charles might move from being deliberately uncooperative to "I want to see you all burn".
 
Joseph and Henry just spun his personal tragedy into a months-long slander campaign and very purposefully destroyed his power base. Heck yeah, Charles has reason to feel negatively towards them. Not to mention dear Jojo proved he had a few screws loose. There is little to no reason for Charles to want to cooperate with King Joseph's regime. I don't think he'd be trying to murder them yet, but he could definitely throw a wrench in the gears of bureaucracy. 'Losing' important documents, projects losing track of funds, diplomatic incidents... hey, Joseph did it first!

If Henry's involvement in starting the affair comes out then Charles might move from being deliberately uncooperative to "I want to see you all burn".
no, because if all this came to light, Henry and Joseph still have the girl as a hostage.

Not only that, but she could be found later on, after some time has passed, without any problem. it was a misunderstanding as the girl was with the Valiere for all this time.

And if she appear after the coronation, them there is no reason to kill her and she was saved by Henry and the King. He will hate them for what they did, but at the same time he will have his daughter back.
 
Joseph and Henry just spun his personal tragedy into a months-long slander campaign and very purposefully destroyed his power base. Heck yeah, Charles has reason to feel negatively towards them. Not to mention dear Jojo proved he had a few screws loose. There is little to no reason for Charles to want to cooperate with King Joseph's regime. I don't think he'd be trying to murder them yet, but he could definitely throw a wrench in the gears of bureaucracy. 'Losing' important documents, projects losing track of funds, diplomatic incidents... hey, Joseph did it first!

If Henry's involvement in starting the affair comes out then Charles might move from being deliberately uncooperative to "I want to see you all burn".

Can you point out where this is discussed, because I am not seeing anywhere where Joseph and Henri are actively doing what you are suggesting.

The lie had been clear. A misguided mage of Charles' faction had learned of the child, and had wanted to remove her in case people of Joseph' faction came to know it.

This mage had kidnapped the girl from the monastery, with the intention of bringing her into the folds of the kidnapping ring, perhaps in hope that she would be sailed out into the unknown, not having the guts to kill her himself -or perhaps, dreading the consequences of such an action. Unfortunately, along the way to meet the kidnappers the minotaur had killed them both, devouring their remains.

As proof, one of the men of the ring had admitted after a bit of convincing that he was supposed to meet with a noble to get a child with silver hair from him -young children with silver hair sold for a lot in some foreign kingdoms- and...well, that had been it, since the scoundrel in question had not survived the interrogation.

I'm not seeing a slander campaign. Before the official announcement, Shade mentions that no one knows what is going on. People were talking about things ranging from a bastard of the King (Joseph and Charles' father) to Joseph's lover, etc etc etc., but, in the examples given, Charles isn't even mentioned. After the royal announcement, it is admitted that Charles fathered twins, and that one of his supporters kidnapped her, getting her and himself killed. None of which is inaccurate as far as Charles is aware.

Granted, behind the scenes, there may be some slandering going on, and we don't know how the conversation between Joseph and Charles a few chapters back ended, but, if so, Henri doesn't seem to mention it; the most direct inference I can see of the actions you are talking about are when Henri writes to Isabella about all of the things the different nobles he encounters are up to. But, re-reading that chapter, no mention is made of that particular noble, Count Balmorre, being allied with Joseph or Charles. In fact, towards the end of the chapter, Henri asks Balmorre about any dirt he has on his rivals, which means that Henri is trying to get as much dirt as possible on as many people as possible, regardless of their faction.
 
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This whole thing makes me think how in the world Familiar of Zero got so popular, when both Louise and Karin are so hate-able. They're actually Joffrey Baratheon levels of hate-able.

It's a series with a setting that was full of potential but ended up as a mediocre harem otaku bait story, and some fanfic writers like to bring out that potential. Then you have fanfic writers who like the setup enough to give Louise a familiar that makes Gandalfr look like a brain dead guy who is paralyzed from the neck down.
 
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He should have kept the holy symbol himself instead of giving it to his parents. Sending the symbol in a letter is really dangerous. Also, keeping an elf (the half makes no difference really) on your land got the last duke, his whole family, and probably no small part of his household murdered. I'm kinda surprised that his parents are both okay with elves in general (they should be dogmatically opposed), and specifically with one staying on their land.
 
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Can you point out where this is discussed, because I am not seeing anywhere where Joseph and Henri are actively doing what you are suggesting.

I'm not seeing a slander campaign. Before the official announcement, Shade mentions that no one knows what is going on. People were talking about things ranging from a bastard of the King (Joseph and Charles' father) to Joseph's lover, etc etc etc., but, in the examples given, Charles isn't even mentioned. After the royal announcement, it is admitted that Charles fathered twins, and that one of his supporters kidnapped her, getting her and himself killed. None of which is inaccurate as far as Charles is aware.

Granted, behind the scenes, there may be some slandering going on, and we don't know how the conversation between Joseph and Charles a few chapters back ended, but, if so, Henri doesn't seem to mention it; the most direct inference I can see of the actions you are talking about are when Henri writes to Isabella about all of the things the different nobles he encounters are up to. But, re-reading that chapter, no mention is made of that particular noble, Count Balmorre, being allied with Joseph or Charles. In fact, towards the end of the chapter, Henri asks Balmorre about any dirt he has on his rivals, which means that Henri is trying to get as much dirt as possible on as many people as possible, regardless of their faction.
Alright fair point, its not slander if the things they say about him are all true. Henry still however went out of his way to destroy all of Charles' supporters as they 'searched' for Josette... and 'lo and behold, after months of no results (and the pro-Charles nobles have all been subdued), she turns up dead! That inquisition was not subtle, if Charles has any social life at all he should have noticed Henry was targeting his allies as he 'searched'.

Plus even if he doesn't take the cynical interpretation that Joseph and Henry had Josette murdered and pulled the corpse out when convenient, they still failed to save his daughter. Not winning any brownie points from him with this lie, at best he'd feel neutral.

Plus Joseph was just generally being himself about the whole situation. If Charles was stuck at the palace talking to him during the inquisition he probably has zero loyalty to him by this point.
 
I wonder...

Speaking of which, who do you think is the "wicked priest who had a change of heart" that Isabella wrote about, Joseph or Charles?
 
I would honestly like an interlude from the knights under henry's command to see what they think of him.
 
I know that Raven probably looks like...well, a raven, but when I read this I can't help imagining him as a larger version of a Spiteful Crow from EarthBound.



Look at this dude. Wouldn't you trust them with your cookies?

I would.

I would trust them with hella my cookies.
 
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Alright fair point, its not slander if the things they say about him are all true. Henry still however went out of his way to destroy all of Charles' supporters as they 'searched' for Josette... and 'lo and behold, after months of no results (and the pro-Charles nobles have all been subdued), she turns up dead! That inquisition was not subtle, if Charles has any social life at all he should have noticed Henry was targeting his allies as he 'searched'.

Plus even if he doesn't take the cynical interpretation that Joseph and Henry had Josette murdered and pulled the corpse out when convenient, they still failed to save his daughter. Not winning any brownie points from him with this lie, at best he'd feel neutral.

Plus Joseph was just generally being himself about the whole situation. If Charles was stuck at the palace talking to him during the inquisition he probably has zero loyalty to him by this point.


Once again you are FAILING to notice how EVERY noble regardless of faction was investigated.

Charles has no reason to hate Joseph or Henry anymore than he already did (and he did hate them both as rivals because his mother raised him with sweet words on how he would be a better King than Joseph or their own father, there is a reason Joseph HATED her).


A little background on the Galian royal family.

Joseph was the King's favorite, people questioned WHY, even his wife the queen, but it was obvious with of his children the King favored. The Queen resentment towards her failure was also public knowledge and her many attempts to make Charles the heir apparent above Joseph were also public knowledge.

The King still wanted Joseph to be king because he thought Joseph had something Charles lacked. We never learn what that was, it was possible the King knew Joseph was a void mage (the Galian royal family had more information about this than anyone else aside the church) and wanted to make sure Joseph would have unrestricted access to the tools he would need to not end up as a pawn of Romalia.


In the end Joseph was an honest child that grew up to be a honest asshole, Charles was a talented child that grew up with the sweet voice of fraticide of his mother, the Galian King was a sharp guy, the Galian queen was a bitch.
 
I really like Charles as an inept administrator. Of course Shade is Italian, a nation know for administration, in various ways.
Note, this is sarcasm by the way.

Source: Mussolini

Unless it wasn't sarcasm. Or maybe it is, honestly it depends on people's biases.
 
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If the nobles we've seen Henry whale on so far are representative of the average Charles supporter, in all honestly both Charles and Joseph look to be SHIT rulers. Is Isabella the only one in that family who bothers looking at the numbers? :confused:


Which is a major dick move considering Charles wasn't planning to steal the throne before this. Henry has secured Joseph's immediate ascension to King with this move, but he may also have turned Charles from passive enemy of circumstance into an active nemesis. Which is bad since Charles is a magical prodigy and likely still more popular than Douche-seph even with his supporters stripped of power. There's all kinds of fuckery he can do to mess with Joseph's regime without seizing power.


The figurine was sealed with the letter. Anyone who opened that and saw the 'evidence' Henry brought back to prove Josette was dead should be able to figure out what happened.

Charles is a Spoiled Little Shit and Joseph is Psychopatic

Yes both are Shitty Rulers. Time for Henry to Napoleon this shit
 
Henry still however went out of his way to destroy all of Charles' supporters as they 'searched' for Josette...
Not true at all, did you even read the story or do you skim it? Everyone and everywhere was searched. Henry simply made a point of gathering dirt on everybody and shared it with his wife.

Cold Henry destroy Charles support? Sure he can. Did he do it? Not yet. Will he do it? Only if Charles does something stupid like trying to take throne himself and people supported him. By then all becomes legal anyway.

So check your assumptions bro.
 
Oh man Karin's face when she figures it out.

Karin: Henry what have you done....

Henry: Done mother?

Karin: Do not be coy with me Henry! This business with Josette, these shady dealings with the nobles. The rule of steel I taught you was not meant for this!

Henry: Oh mother, you think the rule of steel is your ally, you merely adopted the rule of steel. I was born in it, molded by it.

Karin: I dreamed of creating the world's strongest Noble... and I succeeded.

The Shade Knight Rises.
Reconquista : If we took away your coffee, would you die?

Henry: It would be extremely painful.

Reconquista : You're a Noble!

Henry: For you.
"What are you doing?!"
"Wrong question, mother. You should be asking what have I already done."
 
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