GonnaSneeze
Ah...Aaaahh...AAAHHHH...
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- Earth
Fur real?
Well pawdon me
Well pawdon me
Meow Quest (PMMM Catgirl!Homura)
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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it was meowst offensive.
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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- Cold snow fields of Finland
There, there, I know how you feel.
[X] Hi! My name is Amelia too! Amelia Percival Venticus Akemi, to be exact. But everyone calls me Homura.
-[X] Pet me Frilly Girl.
Thanks, I'm glad you like the idea so much, its one I've entertained in numerous ways before so I'm glad to see someone else not only liking it but potentially putting it to use.
I was actually suggesting it mostly for our sakes, I don't want to not exist! XD
Didn't she eat all of Amura's brothers and sisters?
Pretty sure Doc just said there's no afterlife XD... Yet there are souls... Ghostbusters anyone?
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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souls are the collective life force and driving consciousness of a being. without a physical container, either a body or a soul gem, they appear to simply disperse into the ether.
That's a depressing thought, not unreasonable but still. Though does that carry over to Witches who haven't been beaten into Grief Seeds?
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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their barrier is the physical container.
Ah that makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
Steelhooves
Star Paladin
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- Maripony-Damn it.
[X] Hi! My name is Amelia too! Amelia Percival Venticus Akemi, to be exact. But everyone calls me Homura.
-[X] Pet me Frilly Girl.
She is the possessor of entirely new brands of pets, must acquire!
-[X] Pet me Frilly Girl.
She is the possessor of entirely new brands of pets, must acquire!
apeljohn
Non-Player Character
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- Earth Aleph
Yeah, "soul management" is definitely gonna be a branch of the technology tree. That's assuming I ever get round to writing this, since I'm pathologically lazy and have never run a quest before.
I don't... think so? Why would you even suggest that?
If you're interested in the physics of PMMM, you might like this thread where we attempted to thrash it out. Bottom line: everything makes sense except wishes. Wishes make no damn sense.
Sounds like some cool stuff you're considering there, good luck with the idea, I hope something you like can come of it in one form or another.
I was mostly quoting somehting I heard about cats doing and trying to take the edge off the whole "she died" thing... Come to think of it we still have't tracked down the guys that did the deed.
Which of course makes perfect sense! Thanks for the link, I really appreciate it.
apeljohn
Non-Player Character
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- Earth Aleph
Well, the only evidence we have that someone did it deliberately is half a sentence in one of the Hitomi omakes. As far as Amura is aware, it was just death by misadventure.
It really doesn't. The big unanswered question is: why doesn't Kyubey con someone into wishing for Kyubey to have an infinite energy source? OK, this would massively exceed the new magical girl's "carrying capacity", but we've seen that in this case the wish still happens; it's just that the universe then tries to screw the MG over in retaliation*. Kyubey has shown no signs of caring about this.
Hell, whatever is granting wishes can violate causality. It pretty much has to be able to "reduce entropy", or whatever claptrap Kyubey is spouting today.
* Or at least that's one interpretation. Researching this is made more challenging for me by the fact that I'm avoiding reading or watching PMMM canon, for fear of being traumatised further.
That was the plan, the idea, at least on my part, was an alliance between dog-girl and cat-girl to avenge Amura's mothers and bring justice down upon those two monsters.
It was a joke
Do we know that the universe tries to screw over the MG? I always just assumed they got a bargain price version of their wish if they lacked the potential to see it through. I thought that's what Kyube meant when it said "Your wish has surpassed entropy"
Poor Mami
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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- Cold snow fields of Finland
Believe me, you can't run away for ever.
apeljohn
Non-Player Character
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- Earth Aleph
I heartily approve of this plan. Throw them in a witch's maze - see how they like being victimised by things higher up the food chain than them.
I personally don't have a clue. I think that Kyubey suggests this is so (some comment about how wishes are unnatural so the MGs shouldn't be surprised if they backfire), but that could well be Kyubeyganda. Never trust the bunnycat.
We can't even make an educated guess because we don't even know what grants the wishes. Is it Kyubey's magitech, or some other civilisation's leftover genie in a bottle, or some bizarre and coincidental side-effect of accessing one's magic for the first time?
The evidence seems to point vaguely towards the last one, but this is the least plausible option IMO because it's so damn random. Why would a person's magic be able to understand a human concept like "I must save Madoka"? Why would it be able to construct a time machine based on that, when magic is otherwise limited by causality? And why would it only be able to do this in the first microsecond of becoming a Magical Girl, when it apparently can't manage anything this sophisticated at any other time?
I fully intend to try! Anyway, this wouldn't be the first fandom that I've learned about entirely through fanfiction.
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Mwuhahaha, delectable!
I always thought that was a comment on the girls not wishing for what they actually wanted or something like that, but that's just me.
Hard to say, I tend to think its kind of like the result of Kyubey pulling on the girls soul, for a brief time bringing it to its max which manifests the wish before putting it in the gem... Weird the crazy warping power of souls could easily be seen as having a similarity to Supernatural's souls.
Didn't Homura wish to go back and redo her meeting with Madoka though?
Well good luck to you then
TheBleachDoctor
Secretly a Cat
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- The Plane of Infinite Kittens
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- She/Her
Gotta save Meowdoka
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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- Cold snow fields of Finland
If we don't, it will be a catastrophe!
Madou Sutegobana
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I can't speak for everyone, but for me that'd be good enough. I am after all conscious of the fact that my desire for the return of dead loved ones is for selfish reasons.
Plus I adhere to the philosophy of 'you never cross the same stream twice' and even if there was a perfect ressurection of the 'soul', they still wouldn't remain the same person as my memories.
Needless to say I would not break out the chains and bullwhip, while crying "Not the Mamma!", just because of differences to the mother I knew.
Now I might get fed up over time if I had to constantly remind 'mother' of certain common sense things such as, "No Mother! Babies are not for eating!"
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- South Africa
Kyuubey says that he's not allowed to give suggestions. There are many reasons why this coud be so, bu let's ignore that.
Firstly, Kyuubey implies that If a wish is much bigger than the girl's potential, it won't work at all.
Secondly, wishes cannot take into account stuff that the girl hasn't thought of. A girl wishing for infinite energy while knowing barely anything bout how that would be implemented has a lot of ways it could go wrong. Starting with the entire universe being at a permanently infinite temperature. That's not something the Incubators would want due to the fact that all of them would be instantly fried.
apeljohn
Non-Player Character
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- Earth Aleph
I am going to drop all discussion of PMMM physics in this thread, to avoid completely derailing it. Anyone interested in continuing the discussion, there will soon be a post going up in the help thread - please hold your fire.
I was talking about MeowQuest!Homura... Amura... whatever. I was just using it as an example of a high-level concept, of the kind that wishes apparently understand. "I want to redo my meeting with Madoka" would be another valid example.
And then the wish magic misunderstood Amura and transformed Madoka into a cat-girl at the start of the next loop.
I'll try to cover your points here in the help thread. There's a lot of argumentation to summarise, so please bear with me.
I was talking about MeowQuest!Homura... Amura... whatever. I was just using it as an example of a high-level concept, of the kind that wishes apparently understand. "I want to redo my meeting with Madoka" would be another valid example.
And then the wish magic misunderstood Amura and transformed Madoka into a cat-girl at the start of the next loop.
I'll try to cover your points here in the help thread. There's a lot of argumentation to summarise, so please bear with me.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
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- She/Her
Personally, I first heard about PMMM when it was mentioned while I was browsing through TV Tropes. Which part of it was mentioned? The Witchbomb...
TheBleachDoctor
Secretly a Cat
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- The Plane of Infinite Kittens
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- She/Her
Amura sees no problem with this.
Well given their connected to the persons soul I could see why they'd understand what the wisher once within guidelines, sort of anyway. As for saving Madoka, I thought Amura's wish was something like going back to Madoka to play with her again and get pets and such?