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Meow Quest (PMMM Catgirl!Homura)

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Matou Sutegobana said:
No actually in both cases my intent is clear and doesn't require infinite universes. Just requires one hypothetical me with the knowledge of what would benefit me the best with my potential.

No infinite loops, metaknowledge, or powers needed. Just an emulated timeline where I am informed of everything relevant to my wish. Which is not an infinite or even superhuman list.
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And healing doesn't require alternate timeline shenanigans, so your argument that it would have the same energy draw problems as your hypothetical wish is still false.

Whereas if magical healing followed a middle schoolers idea of how the body is supposed to work it would create a body horror.
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...What kind of shitty middle school did you go to that you think middle schoolers wouldn't know anything about how the body works?

The universe does not keep a handy reference chart for how the human body is 'supposed' to be. Even the human body itself does not have that information.

Limbs grow into the shapes they will keep in utero using a step by step process and the blueprints would only help if you were to regrow a fetus, they aren't applicable for a partial reconstruction of a damaged body.
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Google "regrowing limbs".
The entire first page of results are articles on how not only is regenerating lost limbs totally possible, but it's been done already, albeit not on human subjects yet.

Magical healing is neither restoring something to the way it should be,
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If something blows a hole through your shoulder, it is natural that there should be a hole.
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That doesn't mean that a hole in the shoulder is the way the human body should be.

Magical healing is unnatural and complicated.
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So is mundane healing. Doesn't mean it is as much so as obtaining information from alternate timelines.
 
In summary:
- Madoka wished to help people
- The thread started arguing about some unrelated shit

Neato.

[x] Pinklestia
 
Pinklestia said:
We did help them patch their relationship. Two times in fact. Granted then there was the Soul Gem Kitty, but how long until they figure they can just purify it?

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"That's it! That cat has to go!" Homucifer said and snapped her fingers

Only for the Gem cat to turn into a sexy devil catgirl that hugged Madokami.

"... just how broken are Amura powers?"

"I think the bug in her first timeline basicaly made her the magical embodiment of all cats everywhere."

"So is her first reset and she already is as powerful as you?" Homucifer then dragged the demonic cat-girl away from Madokami. "Mine!"

"But mommy! Daddy does the best ear scratches!" the devil cat-girl complained

"Did... did she just call us her parents?"

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Yeah, that happened.
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Didn't I make this omake already?
 
If you did an omake were the grief seed kitten became a devil cat-girl and Madokami and Homucifer daughter, then I would like a link to it.
 
Sheepking said:
And healing doesn't require alternate timeline shenanigans, so your argument that it would have the same energy draw problems as your hypothetical wish is still false.


...What kind of shitty middle school did you go to that you think middle schoolers wouldn't know anything about how the body works?


Google "regrowing limbs".
The entire first page of results are articles on how not only is regenerating lost limbs totally possible, but it's been done already, albeit not on human subjects yet.


That doesn't mean that a hole in the shoulder is the way the human body should be.


So is mundane healing. Doesn't mean it is as much so as obtaining information from alternate timelines.
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A regrown limb on a reptile is not the same as the limb they had before, that isn't a repair, its a replacement. The process can not be used to repair a violinists hand unless you cut it off and they're fine with having a baby hand on their arm.

Restoring a Violinists hand to how it was before an accident does indeed need information about how the hand should turn out from somewhere.

Extending that healing ability to handle other injuries requires even more information. Healing Cancer even more so.

Considering how many posters here have misconceptions about how healing works, I merely need to apply that same "level of knowledge" I've seen displayed here to see body horror come about due to a wish.

If you for example wished for healing, and it was based on your knowledge of regeneration, whenever you get a serious injury to a limb, you would have to amputate it so the new one wouldn't be twisted trying to grow through it.

That's not a jackass genie at work, that's just the wish without the additional information you can't provide.

DNA only contains the information to create a new body from scratch, it can't tell you how to fix a mangled hand, only replace it. And if the replacement is mangled in the process of growing in, you must live with it.

With the additional information, the wish would heal you correctly.
 
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Matou Sutegobana said:
Then I don't have to explain my wish either, its just as magic!

In fact if you want to go the conceptual route, if there is a concept for "the proper way this violinists hand should be", there is just as likely a concept for "hypothetical me".
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Damn sight more 'undamaged hand concept' than 'The perfect wish precisely suited to only me concepts'. One could be the same as before or a close fit while the other is a specialised future concept unique to yourself. Healing could be replacing the damage, rewinding time in a localised way,etc/etc. Perfect Best wish is Perfect and Best, cost would be high even for a Madoka class potential. 'The best wish I could make at this time.' might give you something workable without cursing you but a wish with a 'Search Function' clause is going to have to pay for that search concept due to elements of dimensional and future sight inherent in the statement.
 
Matou Sutegobana said:
In fact if you want to go the conceptual route, if there is a concept for "the proper way this violinists hand should be", there is just as likely a concept for "hypothetical me".
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You know what? Fine. Creating a hypothetical alternate self who has enough time and sense to think of a wish that A) gives you what you want, B) has no unforeseen negative consequences, and C) applies to the real you's situation, and then on top of that getting the wish this hypothetical you came up with is no more complicated or expensive energywise than restoring a guy's hand to the state of health it had before an accident. Can we stop talking about things that are at best tangentially related to Meow Quest now?
 
Slith10 said:
Damn sight more 'undamaged hand concept' than 'The perfect wish precisely suited to only me concepts'. One could be the same as before or a close fit while the other is a specialised future concept unique to yourself. Healing could be replacing the damage, rewinding time in a localised way,etc/etc. Perfect Best wish is Perfect and Best, cost would be high even for a Madoka class potential. 'The best wish I could make at this time.' might give you something workable without cursing you but a wish with a 'Search Function' clause is going to have to pay for that search concept due to elements of dimensional and future sight inherent in the statement.
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There is no search function clause!

My potential does not rapidly fluctuate. The rules do not change minute to minute.

I actually have set goals and given their cost and how much potential I am given could actually give you the answer to what hypothetical me would wish for!

It doesn't take an alternate reality or path to victory or search algorithm. Informed me would select the highest goal I could afford.

I would still word the wish the same, as the wording was constructed to manipulate what kind of Meguca abilities I would develop.

And the concept for how the violinists hand should be would be personal to the violinist. His hand would be a different size, shape, have a different structure, different muscle memory, and permutations than any other hand on the planet and someone else's hand would not work as well for him.

Sheepking said:
You know what? Fine. Creating a hypothetical alternate self who has enough time and sense to think of a wish that A) gives you what you want, B) has no unforeseen negative consequences, and C) applies to the real you's situation, and then on top of that getting the wish this hypothetical you came up with is no more complicated or expensive energywise than restoring a guy's hand to the state of health it had before an accident. Can we stop talking about things that are at best tangentially related to Meow Quest now?
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Where do you even get "B" and "C" from? "A" is kinda what a Wish is.
 
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Please take this to PMs. It has nothing to do with Meow Quest, and choosing to continue, especially after being asked to stop, could potentially get you infracted.
 
Hyp3rB14d3 said:
Please take this to PMs. It has nothing to do with Meow Quest, and choosing to continue, especially after being asked to stop, could potentially get you infracted.
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Being asked to stop by someone who's still continuing the argument is not in fact being asked to stop. It is being asked to take it!

Sheepking said:
You know what? Fine. Creating a hypothetical alternate self who has enough time and sense to think of a wish that A) gives you what you want, B) has no unforeseen negative consequences, and C) applies to the real you's situation, and then on top of that getting the wish this hypothetical you came up with is no more complicated or expensive energywise than restoring a guy's hand to the state of health it had before an accident. Can we stop talking about things that are at best tangentially related to Meow Quest now?
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And I never asked for any of these posters to continue to harass me, so why don't you stop!

I am asking you and the others to stop harassing me about my wish. If you continue to post about my wish after asking me to stop then I will report YOU.
 
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Matou Sutegobana said:
Being asked to stop by someone who's still continuing the argument is not in fact being asked to stop. It is being asked to take it!

And I never asked for any of these posters to continue to harass me, so why don't you stop!

I am asking you and the others to stop harassing me about my wish. If you continue to post about my wish after asking me to stop then I will report YOU.
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I'm not asking you to take it. I'm asking you to take it somewhere else.
 
Hyp3rB14d3 said:
I'm not asking you to take it. I'm asking you to take it somewhere else.
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You stated that I had already been asked to stop.

Sheepking said:
You know what? Fine. Creating a hypothetical alternate self who has enough time and sense to think of a wish that A) gives you what you want, B) has no unforeseen negative consequences, and C) applies to the real you's situation, and then on top of that getting the wish this hypothetical you came up with is no more complicated or expensive energywise than restoring a guy's hand to the state of health it had before an accident. Can we stop talking about things that are at best tangentially related to Meow Quest now?
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Sheepking clearly continued to argue about my wish in that post, after asking me to stop!

That is so that he could get the last word in!

Saying that you will report me for not stopping when sheepking is still arguing about something I NEVER ASKED him to argue about is in fact telling me to take it!
 
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Pinklestia said:
If you did an omake were the grief seed kitten became a devil cat-girl and Madokami and Homucifer daughter, then I would like a link to it.
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In the threadmarks. Look of "Second Best Cat's Amazing Afterlife Adventures" and Second Best Cat's Additional Afterlife Adventures". There also might be links on the first post.
 
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