The other choice, the choice to delay the end as long as possible, freely allows the beholder to hunt our girls. The meat grinder might harm the culture, but the only thing that kills SIMP is giving our girls to the beholder on a silver platter.
You are right, but frankly we are stuck in a group of options that are f-ing terrible no matter what. And no "might" about harming the culture; I think harm is a big understatement too.
It's still rather gaping cracks in the foundation of the group.
And I'm sure those gaping cracks won't exist when we let the beholder run rampant to kill actual Kyouko next time we go hunting in Tokyo.
So you agree with my opinion that all options frankly suck to varying degrees?
You act like I ever said otherwise.
That wasn't even your initial point, Helix told us that we would lose girls no matter what if we tried to clear Tokyo (something I've consistently repeated). Willful ignorance until it actually happened means you're the one finally agreeing with me. Even our girls knew some of them would likely die, in fluff. SIMP culture won't die because the questers finally manned up and went for the killing blow that we knew had to happen eventually. If anything I doubt it will even affect the culture. This will have been the nth time SIMP girls put themselves at risk, voluntarily, for others. I point to Seto's group as the first example of this, and every single Youma fight we've had in Tokyo since then as further examples. It's literally the best option, for the girls lives, for the city, and for SIMP as a whole, and it's not even that horrendously terrible.
Though, should we have a plan besides charge? Cause like Storyteller said:
Uh, no, assuming random selection it's about 94% that one of them was a teleporter.
If the dice decide to screw us over again and wreck havoc on our ranks (ie. massive fatality rates, which is not at all unlikely), what then?
You say you don't think the world has to be fair, but it doesn't really sound like you believe it. If the dice screw us over badly enough, then we die. That doesn't mean this isn't still the best option.
That's great.
And you would be very wrong.
If you respond to a plan with "What about X?", where X is something clearly impossible to deal with, you are making an implicit argument that the risk of X is a reason to not undertake the plan that requires the assumption that there is, or should be, a better plan. Similarly
is something you say when you expect that to be a knockdown counterargument.
Of course the plan isn't to mindlessly charge it. It's nearly human in intellect and being too obvious would be stupid. We know that, at least, it's able to teleport once every so many minutes, so the first thing we want to do is interdict it's teleport attempt, which should keep it locked down and likely unable to drop it's field to bring in reinforcements. And that's just the entry play.
If the dice fuck us, they will have fucked us in any situation. We will never remove probability from a fight with a Youma. We will never remove probability from a fight with the beholder. Why offer more points of failure by waiting around like lemmings when we could just take the damn chance already and simplify things for us the rest of the way?
Not remotely, but okay, I'll shut up. I've no desire to discuss this subject any further anyway.
If you don't agree that this choice is the only feasible choice, then present an alternative. You can't pick an option that doesn't exist.
Basically agreeing here, SIMP is going through trying times and there is no way we won't feel it from now on. Calling them cracks is what they would be if we leave them alone, but we are the fucking Mami and we will weather this and make sure any problems this Tokyo disaster causes are taken care of the best we can. Relationships can be repaired, we proved that with Kyouko, we can come back from this and we plan to.
To continue the metaphor, we lack all magotechnical expertise to develop the proverbial airplanes, tanks, and artillery. Our "troops" are largely one trick ponies, without much gear that can expand their capabilities, individually. And we lack the firepower and manpower to simply steamroll over our problems.
