Meguca Micro Empire Quest (PMMM)

What should I do regarding a change in system?

  • Notgreat's proposed simplification of hunting, leave rest intact.

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Chapter system vastly simplifying everything.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
5. But I think you forgot one other difference: Kinematic's vote sends the tandem anchors with Kyoclone for possible use during the Class 3 hunt. I am strongly in favor of this.

Yes, @inverted_helix just to be clear, Kinematics did later say in thread that by this he meant sending them with Kyoclone to be used by her, and not just giving them directly to Nagoya.

as when I got around to writing about it I realized that it's a bit different than my original thinking. Because it's not a passive enchant that just enhances the basic properties of an object, it's actually a spell you're talking about here. And you don't have the technology to keep a spell effect active at this point. The anchoring you have is essentially a burst, not instant but more on the order of seconds to a minute depending on the spell. Whereas this is desiring a spell to be active for hours.

37 and 40.

Also I'm reconsidering this

Oh that's half of what I remembered. Also, I guess that makes sense about the boxes. I suppose you can drop it.

I have a question for Kyubey, if we hire and pay for a legendary to clear out Tokyo, do we get the bounties on those demons?
 
Thank you for the answer. But ugh - things don't look good for Tokyo. Can we convince Kyuubey to stop recruiting girls as demon fodder? The initial recruiting effort might have sounded like a good idea, but there's no way that it can be helping things now.

Edit: And can we offer to sponsor a few girls from Tokyo who might want to leave?

I think a better thing might be to spend some effort next month creating care packages and sending them to Tokyo. Especially to the Elites, so that we have some contacts among the leaders.
 
I have a question for Kyubey, if we hire and pay for a legendary to clear out Tokyo, do we get the bounties on those demons?
We could always negotiate a deal with her. We're footing the bill to bring her over, and may be mailing her some GCU to support the trip, even if she's doing the work, so perhaps we can figure on something like a finder's fee.
I think a better thing might be to spend some effort next month creating care packages and sending them to Tokyo. Especially to the Elites, so that we have some contacts among the leaders.
I dunno, the sponsored escapes seem like a really useful idea, especially if we make sure Nagoya and the coalition don't feel like we're consolidating by organizing all three groups to take on refugees in a balanced way. It might take some haggling, but I wouldn't argue against a few extra meguca, especially if an elite or two decided to book it out of town.
 
Writing this update, it's probably going to end up as the biggest one yet. There's just so much packed into it.

I really need to find things for you guys to spend more meguca on that aren't as hard/long to write. With all of your non-maintenance manpower things will only get longer.
Going forward we're going to need more jobs than we have now, to keep up with projected expenses.

Maybe can upgrade the gossipmonger to a straight up outreach/inter-group relations and trade program, rather than having so much individual allocating going on?

We also need to think about cleaning and maintenance on our houses. Right now that's all being handled informally, but I can just imagine that's making it a bit messy all around.
 
Maybe can upgrade the gossipmonger to a straight up outreach/inter-group relations and trade program, rather than having so much individual allocating going on?
Yeah. Given that after this turn we'll have opened relations and gotten trade info with every single one of our neighbors (except trade with Kofu), it makes a bit of sense to turn it into a general central hub.

I'd still like to call Yuka 'Gossipmonger', though. It's a fun title. "Yes, this is Yuka, the gossipmonger of our inter-group outreach department."

We also need to think about cleaning and maintenance on our houses. Right now that's all being handled informally, but I can just imagine that's making it a bit messy all around.
We need to collect all that experience so that we can apply it to the new properties we're aiming for.

I really need to find things for you guys to spend more meguca on that aren't as hard/long to write. With all of your non-maintenance manpower things will only get longer :cry:
We made a big jump on research projects this month, and adding even more would not be unlikely. Those eat up a good chunk of meguca.



Quick estimate on hunting for the next turn, to work out how many meguca we have floating around to do stuff with. (This includes merging 10+17 into the North, and then splitting the territory evenly.) — 20.5 meguca, including 1.5 elite hunters and 0.5 Seto on teleportation.

Then 19.5 vets (not using Taya on dispatch) between Support and Jobs. That brings the total to 40.

We can also expect 7 vets on ongoing research, 2 on a morale action, and 1 on general training for the new greens. That puts the total at 50.

And Yuka on gossipmonger. 51 total.

So that leaves 4 vets and 3 elites for 'other' stuff. We'll be running a bit tight on actions, particularly if we need to use the elites for stuff instead of hunting/dispatch.
 
I dunno, the sponsored escapes seem like a really useful idea, especially if we make sure Nagoya and the coalition don't feel like we're consolidating by organizing all three groups to take on refugees in a balanced way. It might take some haggling, but I wouldn't argue against a few extra meguca, especially if an elite or two decided to book it out of town.

Well, we made contact with Area 15/16 to discuss Tokyo, and included in that an offer to take refugees that they have spilling over into their area.

Nagoya obviously has already decided not to accept refugees, since they actually are involved in expeditions to Tokyo. Somehow I doubt encouraging other locations to take in more megucas is going to go over well.

We can probably only afford another 10, or 15 at the most if we switch to IRT.

Part of the problem here is that we can't afford to take everyone, so how do we choose who gets to come?

Plus there was that rumor about a barrier trapping them all in Tokyo. Getting out might be hard.

Going forward we're going to need more jobs than we have now, to keep up with projected expenses.

We are already adding 3 more with this month's turn.

Maybe can upgrade the gossipmonger to a straight up outreach/inter-group relations and trade program, rather than having so much individual allocating going on?

Hmm... I think helix is sort of informally doing that, what with not charging us anything for more cube trades with Nagaoya. But I guess that would also become part of her duties, update us on any changes in grief cube/money valuations?

We also need to think about cleaning and maintenance on our houses. Right now that's all being handled informally, but I can just imagine that's making it a bit messy all around.

Well, I think cleaning can continue to be abstracted away. Basically, the girl living there have a chore chart - just like they would if living at home, so there is no effect on the meguca available months.

Maintenance is handled by the landlord in most cases, since we are renters.

Once we own land we will need to pay for that, so we could just combine it with the mortgage payment (like I assume we do with taxes).
 
Quick estimate on hunting for the next turn, to work out how many meguca we have floating around to do stuff with. (This includes merging 10+17 into the North, and then splitting the territory evenly.) — 20.5 meguca, including 1.5 elite hunters and 0.5 Seto on teleportation.

I assume this is higher than will be the norm?

Because I assume that shifting 9 area south means that south will start at a lower DS and so more hunting on the underhunt than usual to reach 0 DS?

What would the cost be for an even split and the normal full underhunt from 10 DS down to 0? (I get around 19 vets with 0.5 Seto, calculating that for various combinations of elites and vets I haven't done)

One thing to consider is that if we do hire Serena, we will probably need to surge a huge number of girls to Tokyo to support this effort, and to also try and make sure that the Tokyo situation doesn't go bad again.

This is so important that I think we should consider pausing all research in order to do it.

Also, should we be keeping the large swing for a couple months to make a surge more possible?

For all vets w/ Seto I get ~16.5 vets and 0.5 Seto when underhunting a 46 sized North, and over hunting a 28 size South.

And ~21 vet with 0.5 Set on the opposite.

That's an additional ~4 vets swing...

If that makes it possible to get to a 20+ vet plus Mami plus one more elite to focus on Tokyo for the key turn... is that worth it?
 
Plus there was that rumor about a barrier trapping them all in Tokyo. Getting out might be hard.
Note that that was a rumor. inverted_helix stated that an actual barrier around an area the size of Tokyo would be ridiculous (and our immigrants mentioned no such thing). However, a metaphorical barrier is quite likely (i.e. the girls need to hunt, but none of the groups around them are accepting refugees, so they are forced to stay in Tokyo).
 
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I assume this is higher than will be the norm?
First, I made a mistake. I'd left in 1.5 vets on the line that used to be 10+17. Total number of hunters should actually be 19 (including Seto and 1.5 elites).

And once DS is balanced back to normal, total units should be 18, and remain steady at that since it's using an even split (barring adding more elites to free up vet time).
 
Also, should we be keeping the large swing for a couple months to make a surge more possible?
If we want to pull hunter units, we can just hunt the territories to DS 0. We can get 61 cubes for 11.5 meguca, freeing up ~6 meguca. Net cubes including spirals would be around -10, but we should have enough buffer for that to not be an issue. A second month of doing that would be 80 cubes for 15 meguca, saving 3 vets.


If that makes it possible to get to a 20+ vet plus Mami plus one more elite to focus on Tokyo for the key turn... is that worth it?
Given 19.5 vets for support+jobs (or 17.5 if Taya handles full dispatch), the highest theoretical I could see would be 25 vets in the first DS0 month, and 22 in the second and later months.

As for whether it's worth it? That's a hard call. If we kept the vets as initial entry + support (like the class 3 we fought), perhaps. We were doing teams of 6, right?

Teleporter x2 (rotate for evac)
Barrier x2 (tandem)
Clairvoyant
Healer


If we were part of a coalition, two support teams like that would do. Then the elite team as the actual strike force. Mami, Kyouko, KyouClone, Seto, Taya (and hopefully Kaoru).

And they're not spending the entire month there, so actual allocation would probably be multiplied by .5 for all of them, for a per-month expedition. 6.0 vets, 2.5 elites.

It seems entirely feasible to do this without impinging on our hunting.
 
That was a rumor. inverted_helix stated that an actual barrier around an area the size of Tokyo would be ridiculous (and our immigrants mentioned no such thing). However, a metaphorical barrier is quite likely (i.e. the girls need to hunt, but none of the groups around them are accepting refugees, so they are forced to stay in Tokyo).

I took it to suggest that some of the demons had developed the ability to use barriers to trap girls in Tokyo.

Given 19.5 vets for support+jobs (or 17.5 if Taya handles full dispatch), the highest theoretical I could see would be 25 vets in the first DS0 month, and 22 in the second and later months.

As for whether it's worth it? That's a hard call. If we kept the vets as initial entry + support (like the class 3 we fought), perhaps. We were doing teams of 6, right?

Teleporter x2 (rotate for evac)
Barrier x2 (tandem)
Clairvoyant
Healer


If we were part of a coalition, two support teams like that would do. Then the elite team as the actual strike force. Mami, Kyouko, KyouClone, Seto, Taya (and hopefully Kaoru).

And they're not spending the entire month there, so actual allocation would probably be multiplied by .5 for all of them, for a per-month expedition. 6.0 vets, 2.5 elites.

It seems entirely feasible to do this without impinging on our hunting.

I wasn't really thinking on using that 20+ vets and elites for combat in Tokyo.

Rather I meant that assuming we manage to get a legendary to clear it of class 3 demons, we are going to need all hands on the diplomacy front. Meeting the various surviving girls. For those organizations already in place (probably those with Elites), giving them support and training on sustainable hunting. For those (and there must be many) girls that aren't even in organizations, making contact with them and all the wild girls in a certain neighborhood and helping them organize. This might include assigning a vet or two to some of these new organizations to show them how to a bunch of things that are needed - dispatch teams, training, etc.

Assessing the DS levels of the various Tokyo wards. If the DS is still too high, persuading the local girls to under hunt, which might mean distributing grief cubes. Getting agreements not to hunt above +10 DS. Or at the very least contacting us if that happens so we can be prepared to send Serena in again.

All those sorts of things.

And of course, if some of these girls want to formally join the Serenes, well we can support that too. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the wild girls want to. Though that might be more long term than just the initial two months.
 
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Non-canon Omake: Doctors
Omake: Doctors


"Dr. Li speaking." A tired voice came over the telephone speaker, weary with exhaustion. "I'm rather busy at the moment, so I do hope you can make this quick."

"Greetings, Dr. Li. My name is Hainako, and I'm translating on behalf of Dr. Mamato of the Sunrise Research Institute."

A grunt of acknowledgement was heard, and Hainako nodded to Mami to continue.

"Hello, Dr. Li," Mami began, pausing periodically to allow Hainako to translate between herself and the Chinese man. "I wanted to discuss with you the implications of certain findings we've made in one of our private research projects.

"Please note that I'm not a medical doctor, and can't claim any expertise in that area. You are far more qualified to make the final judgement, but I trust that someone in your position will do everything in your power to save the people in your city, even if the idea is a long shot.

"And I must also apologize for not being able to provide you with our data, as it is classified. However, given the scope and ramifications of the current problem in Hong Kong, I have gained permission to apprise you of a particular possibility in terms of treatment.

"Namely, that the problem is the quarantine itself. It appears likely that there is an actual physical link to the location of the city which exacerbates the disease. Now, I cannot guarantee this, but it seems very possible that removing an infected patient and taking them to a different, remote area — with its own proper quantine facilities, of course — may be able to reduce the effects of the disease to a non-lethal level.

"Note also that I am not suggesting a full evacuation of the city. A mass exodus from an area like Hong Kong will probably only end up carrying the accelerant with the population. If my theory is correct, though, then regular removal of infected individuals from the area may allow a more controlled situation for preventing people's deaths.

"I can't claim any certainty that this method will work, and likewise cannot claim any credit if it does. As I said, the research that led us to this conclusion is classified.

There was a long pause after Mami finished her speech. Finally, the man on the other end of the line responded. "You know, diseases don't work like that. Once you catch a fatal disease, moving doesn't make it any less fatal."

"Not even if the reason for its lethality is something in the environment, like asbestos?"

"Environmental damage is long-term. You don't die in a matter of days. Or if you do, you've already taken a high enough dose that you're going to die no matter what, anyway."

Mami pursed her lips, but rather than responding again directly, said, "Are you really that eager to give up all hope? I recognize that even what I'm suggesting may be a pointless effort that has no effect, but I can't just sit here and do nothing when people are dying."

Another deep sigh was heard. "Listen, ma'am, I'm sure you have the best of intentions, but we've already tried everything we can think of, and then some. From the most advanced medical treatments, all the way to ancient folk medicine and crazy new age theories. Nothing works. And the entire city is under quarantine. Nobody leaves."

"But the people who left the city before the quarantine haven't gotten sick, right? There's been no spread of the disease outside?"

The pause was longer this time. "It doesn't matter. I wouldn't be able to do that anyway. I don't have the authority to break quarantine on some hair-brained idea. Where would we even send them? I mean.. well, I guess.. maybe call in a favor with Dr. Chen.. He might be able to set up a local quarantine spot... But no, I don't have any pull with the military. You'd have to convince them to let a helicopter out of the restricted zone. That's beyond what I could manage."

"I see. That would indeed be difficult. Unfortunately, my position is such that I have no contact with the military. And even if I did, I don't imagine the Chinese army would welcome suggestions from the Japanese."

The doctor snorted at that. "I shouldn't even be giving you the time to convince me. But we really have nothing left to try."

Mami's hands clenched in frustration. To be this close... Well, she had one more card left to play, if it came to that. Ask Kyuubey to fake the authorizations necessary to allow the helicopter clearance. However, authorization on paper isn't the same as convincing a pilot not to shoot. It would require messing with several people's memories in a way that he'd probably charge quite a bit for, and it would be hard to explain to the doctor, but she couldn't give up quite yet...

"Ah!" the doctor suddenly exclaimed. "Wait. There was a girl. Fourth floor radiology.. er, never mind that. Anyway, I was supervising some radiotherapy treatment attempts, and there was an old man there the whole time — her grandfather, I think. We didn't talk much, but I'm pretty sure he was long-service military. He just might..." The rapid tapping of a pen against a desk was heard, before the man continued. "Not that I think this hokey idea of yours would work, mind. There's no basis for it possibly being effective. But I suppose at this point even I'm willing to grasp at straws."

"Of course, Doctor. I really wish there was more I could do," Mami replied, apologetically.

"No, I understand. It's fine." A moment of hesitation, and then, "It does make me wonder, though, what you know of what might have caused this."

"I'm afraid I don't know the exact cause. All I have are theories, some more wildly speculative than others." Mami considered for a moment, and then continued, "However, I am almost completely certain that this is not the result of some sort of bioweapons attack made by Japan."

"Ah," Li said, a certain tension in his voice disappearing. "Sorry. Didn't mean to imply..."

"Don't worry, I'm not offended. I'm sure you're under an enormous amount of stress in the current situation. I can only thank you for taking the time to listen to my ideas."

"Of course, Dr. Mamato. I will let you know if anything is substantiated."

After a few more pleasantries, and finally hanging up, Mami let out a tired breath and sank down in her chair. Hainako looked at her in concern, but Mami waved her off.

"The worst part," Mami said after a few moments, "is that I don't even know if it will work. The effects of demons on the populace once they've reached such dangerously underhunted levels isn't something we've ever studied. And a mass emigration would likely carry the demons with them. But a comment Kyuubey once made, a year or two ago, makes me think that at the very least a slow emigration would leave the demons isolated in that area, which should prevent the problem from spreading."

Hainako leaned over and patted Mami's hand. "At least you tried, right?"

Mami frowned, and, half speaking to herself, said, "Perhaps I should have put more effort into helping with the military part of his problem. I'm sure we could get Kyuubey to make whoever he ends up contacting more 'cooperative' with the idea. Yes, that would be less troublesome than trying to pull those changes off whole cloth. I should ask him about that."

Hainako gave Mami's hand a squeeze, smiling because this was the Mami that everyone loved — one always striving to improve people's lives, in whatever small ways she could. Well, maybe they couldn't save the world today, but there was always tomorrow.
 
@Kinematics

Look... I appreciate that you are moved by a good motive in trying to help Hong Kong. I just don't see how what you are suggesting is in anyway plausible.

First of all, why would anyone believe some strange person calling them? Wouldn't Dr. Li try and identify Dr. Mamato? Start asking for credentials, which university she attended?

Second, we don't even know if this is caused by demon under hunting, it might be an Incubator bio weapon. Considering his shiftiness in answering about the causes I actually rate that as far more likely than under hunting. (Remember Kyouko had her territory at -10 DS for a long time).

This is sort of like trying to put out a citywide fire by spitting on it. The only effect it could have is to backlash and hurt us. Specifically, Dr. Li might decide that this is a bio weapon after all, and convince the Chinese military that some Japanese woman called him with information about the disease, and that he suspects this is a Japanese attack on China.
 
First of all, why would anyone believe some strange person calling them? Wouldn't Dr. Li try and identify Dr. Mamato? Start asking for credentials, which university she attended?
Because that would be a boring part of the conversation, and too troublesome to write in. It's sort of assumed as part of why he even took the phone call in the first place. I suppose I could put some handwave about that in there.

Second, we don't even know if this is caused by demon under hunting, it might be an Incubator bio weapon.
I know that. Mami might even suspect it. But I wouldn't want her to be too willing to give into the idea of it, and instead hold onto the hope that there's at least a chance.

And, strictly speaking, it's entirely possible for this to work even if the Incubators are behind it. Their purpose in a population purge is to eliminate the source of food of the class 3's. A slow emigration that doesn't cause a large spread of demons would work just as well for their purposes.
 
I took it to suggest that some of the demons had developed the ability to use barriers to trap girls in Tokyo.
The actual rumor was that girls outside of Tokyo had created the "barrier". If you try to take the rumor literally, then it's patently ridiculous. Tokyo is enormous and all of the shields we've seen are personal sized; even a legendary girl (or Demon) focused exclusively on barriers would have trouble creating a barrier of that magnitude (e.g. Serena's range is 1km). But if you take "barrier" to mean that groups outside of Tokyo aren't allowing the Tokyo girls to join them or go past them, then the rumor makes perfect sense.
 
Anyway, the hunting expedition should give us an idea of the value of the tandem charms in that effort. Can find out what ratio of charms we're actually going to want. Probably something like 2:1 for barrier:healing.

Assuming they're using pack tactics, the presumed starting lethality risk for casualties is 20%. The tandem healing charms would drop that to just 5%. Might be bumped up due to fighting a class 3 (I don't recall exactly).

Baseline casualty reduction for our elites should be 32%, not counting the barrier charms. I expect the barrier charms to be more effective in a fight against class 3's than in general hunting, since for hunting you're basically just getting 1 charm per day, while in a class 3 fight you're using multiple charms per fight.

Allowing thoughts on what we might need to do if we can't get Serena, or it'll be a while before we can get her over here.

Production costs for tandem charms would be: 3.0 vets and 1.2 cubes for 200 tandem charms. Contained in either two 5L dewars or one 10L cryoshipper. Would be a stretch of meguca available to produce much more than that.

If we were selling these, how much would they cost? Seems like a baseline of $4000 per 100 tandems, as that would pretty much break even on meguca and cube opportunity costs (using a deflated value of $3000 per GCU). $10,000 would probably be the upper limit before people are unwilling to buy. Probably $6000 per 100 as a usable price (~50% markup). That implies $2000 per 100 for normal charms. Oh, and the container to hold them, too, for another $500 per 100 charms (though that's reusable if they're a regular customer), but that's just cost. Can give discounts on bulk or long-term contract purchases.

Already estimated that a strike team to go with Nagoya would be 2.5 elites (or 3.0 if we get Kaoru trained up) and 6.0 vets. I could see that being good for killing up to a dozen class 3's (one per day for half a month), in cooperation with Nagoya and possibly areas 15/16. In fact, cooperative efforts with the other groups, and the natives of Tokyo, could conceivably clear Tokyo within a few months without needing the legendary.

19 vets with no elites (other than Seto teleporting) could handle hunting duties. 19.5 on support and jobs. 6 on the expeditionary forces. 3 on charm production. 1 on finishing up general training. That would leave 6 vets for massive diplomatic outreach to the Tokyo groups. (all research halted)

Basically, dealing with Tokyo without the legendary is viable.
 
Anyway, the hunting expedition should give us an idea of the value of the tandem charms in that effort. Can find out what ratio of charms we're actually going to want. Probably something like 2:1 for barrier:healing.

Assuming they're using pack tactics, the presumed starting lethality risk for casualties is 20%. The tandem healing charms would drop that to just 5%. Might be bumped up due to fighting a class 3 (I don't recall exactly).

Baseline casualty reduction for our elites should be 32%, not counting the barrier charms. I expect the barrier charms to be more effective in a fight against class 3's than in general hunting, since for hunting you're basically just getting 1 charm per day, while in a class 3 fight you're using multiple charms per fight.

Allowing thoughts on what we might need to do if we can't get Serena, or it'll be a while before we can get her over here.

Production costs for tandem charms would be: 3.0 vets and 1.2 cubes for 200 tandem charms. Contained in either two 5L dewars or one 10L cryoshipper. Would be a stretch of meguca available to produce much more than that.

If we were selling these, how much would they cost? Seems like a baseline of $4000 per 100 tandems, as that would pretty much break even on meguca and cube opportunity costs (using a deflated value of $3000 per GCU). $10,000 would probably be the upper limit before people are unwilling to buy. Probably $6000 per 100 as a usable price (~50% markup). That implies $2000 per 100 for normal charms. Oh, and the container to hold them, too, for another $500 per 100 charms (though that's reusable if they're a regular customer), but that's just cost. Can give discounts on bulk or long-term contract purchases.

Already estimated that a strike team to go with Nagoya would be 2.5 elites (or 3.0 if we get Kaoru trained up) and 6.0 vets. I could see that being good for killing up to a dozen class 3's (one per day for half a month), in cooperation with Nagoya and possibly areas 15/16. In fact, cooperative efforts with the other groups, and the natives of Tokyo, could conceivably clear Tokyo within a few months without needing the legendary.

19 vets with no elites (other than Seto teleporting) could handle hunting duties. 19.5 on support and jobs. 6 on the expeditionary forces. 3 on charm production. 1 on finishing up general training. That would leave 6 vets for massive diplomatic outreach to the Tokyo groups. (all research halted)

Basically, dealing with Tokyo without the legendary is viable.
I thought class 3 fights were done on a more granular basis?
 
Class 3 fights aren't resolved in a single roll like normal demon hunting, they use something more like the PvP system.
Ah, so we can ignore the default casualty calculations? Probably. It's been a long time since our fight. Exact details on how things play out is fuzzy, but the main point is that we can probably field an effective kill force at relatively low risk (assuming we team up with the other groups).
 
Ah, so we can ignore the default casualty calculations? Probably. It's been a long time since our fight. Exact details on how things play out is fuzzy, but the main point is that we can probably field an effective kill force at relatively low risk (assuming we team up with the other groups).
I also vaguely recall that we got out of that 'this is a complete failure of a class 3' fight by the skin of our teeth in dice terms, almost entirely due to the effect of it's stealth power (I never read if it got specified, but I figure it got free, unopposed checks to make instant takedowns). Given they can have a variety of powers ranging from rapid regeneration to telepathy, I'm a little leery about just rolling in and expecting what we did last time to work without at least three or more lethality checks being made against us.
 
I also vaguely recall that we got out of that 'this is a complete failure of a class 3' fight by the skin of our teeth in dice terms, almost entirely due to the effect of it's stealth power (I never read if it got specified, but I figure it got free, unopposed checks to make instant takedowns). Given they can have a variety of powers ranging from rapid regeneration to telepathy, I'm a little leery about just rolling in and expecting what we did last time to work without at least three or more lethality checks being made against us.
Well, yes and no. We did only barely win because it was hopping around while invisible. On the other hand, if we'd broken its stealth, it would have been pretty much a cake walk. We had a 97.3% chance of breaking its stealth, but failed. So, the dice can screw us over with this just as they can with anything else, but most of the time we should have much better results.

Also, remember that we're not going into this solo. It would be a team effort with at least Nagoya, possibly the area 15/16 groups, and maybe assists from the Tokyo defenders.
 
Well, yes and no. We did only barely win because it was hopping around while invisible. On the other hand, if we'd broken its stealth, it would have been pretty much a cake walk. We had a 97.3% chance of breaking its stealth, but failed. So, the dice can screw us over with this just as they can with anything else, but most of the time we should have much better results.

Also, remember that we're not going into this solo. It would be a team effort with at least Nagoya, possibly the area 15/16 groups, and maybe assists from the Tokyo defenders.
I still feel that a little more caution and prep than you appear to have are warranted. The class 3 we fought was basically newborn and weaker than any other we're liable to encounter, class 3's that have been feeding on meguca for months by the dozen, and it's stealth power was, as mentioned, the entire reason it was a threat in the first place. What happens when we're stuck fighting a rapid regen demon? Something that 'undoes' successful wound checks or just has a stupidly high threshold for a lasting hit? Or god forbid, a teleporter? I get that we're taking the proper precautions, but from the way it's worded, the class 3's we'll be fighting will be so far removed from our first experience that we might as well be going in blind. I think a shorter expedition to test the waters is probably better, maybe aiming to kill two or three for the half-month rather than a dozen. At least, we could definitely benefit (and spread said benefit around) by having more cases to study for class 3 tactics.
 
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