We don't know if Hellbindi took the oath. Also why do we need to tell Hellbindi?
@KnowledgeKing does Loki have the knowledge to do the magic oath that we took on someone else?
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
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@KnowledgeKing does Loki have the knowledge to do the magic oath that we took on someone else?
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He's in a alliance with Loki and also because Helbindi can be informed through the hellbindi write in since it takes place in jotunheim. And then no one will be alarmed when the chitauri arrive.
I think the Hellbindi write in happens before the attack on Asgard because there is a chance of us dying in the battle. (No matter how small that may be)
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It's just binding/sealing.
You might want to do something other than this, I have no confidence in us being able to do anything with our binding/sealing.
We were able to bind people for the bank remember. This is simple, but just in case I will ask.
@KnowledgeKing will the bind for the oath have a roll or will it be like binding for the bank ( So simple it doesn't need a roll)?
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@Darkcore41 Wouldn't a crown make more sense for the mind artifact?
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I would point out that we should add any possible request he would have from us for his goals here. Basically if he feels that he needs something and we can provide it without being under Amora he could ask. Maybe we could fund him to build Niveldir of his own? That way he gets Niveldir and PF gets another world, or allied world.
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A crown is too easily stolen or knocked off in the middle of combat, especially in cqc. Besides why is a crown any better then gloves?
@KnowledgeKing can we upgrade the artifact later? Like add new stats on top of what we have?
Or craft a jewel that gives it an added effect, that can be slotted in the glove?
What's the DC to bind the oath?
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...Yes. It's thematically/symbolically better IMO.
Yes.
Yes.
IDK 50 to start, but the roll does depict how hard it is to break.
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Does it help that Helblindi doesn't have Binding/Sealing or his Willpower is enough to screw up the oath?
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-[][Osmond] Osmond, you are my best friend and only you can make this choice. Think based on your goals and if this can further them. Think about the trade offs and if it brings more positives then negatives and make your decision. Though if you really wish it yet dont like Amora i can always offer you my support in resources to make another Nidavellir like forge under your authority .
What do people think about this?
What do people think about this?
@KnowledgeKing what does a crown give that the gloves won't?
To break the oath does he need willpower?
Will Loki know when the oath has been broken or the binding broken?
Is a crown easier to lose in cqc then gloves? (Or is the crown the same difficulty to lose?)
Edit: Do people wish for me to add a clause that would have Loki support Osmond to make his own forge\realm. We have Pluto and we can change it in to another Nidavellir.
To break the oath does he need willpower?
Will Loki know when the oath has been broken or the binding broken?
Is a crown easier to lose in cqc then gloves? (Or is the crown the same difficulty to lose?)
Edit: Do people wish for me to add a clause that would have Loki support Osmond to make his own forge\realm. We have Pluto and we can change it in to another Nidavellir.
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Nothing. It's just thematically better.
Or power. Or magical power. There's...ways.
Maybe. Depends on how it's broken.
Depends on the crown. If a properly fitted crown, then it's around the same. Only difference is the head is hit more than gloves but like...
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Yes.
@KnowledgeKing Are we allowed to move the chitauri to Jotunheim through the hellbindi write in or is it too much?
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Can people shrunken through the quantum realm travel to other universes? Can a spaceship travel to other universes if it was fitted with the required tech?
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No, because it makes no f-ing sense and is a huge waste of time and resources since Osmond can instantly get access to the best forge in the universe while still having immense freedom. Honestly I am just absolutely sick of the Amora bashing especially when she has been pretty sweet. And now people want us to waste resources for no real reason other then that they have an irrational dislike for Amora. Hell, this looks like it would hurt our relationship with the ruler of Asgard since it looks really bad.
This probably would not appeal to him at all, if he wants people to rule over he would just take Nidellver.
@KnowledgeKing what happens to the right in if we fail the binding roll?
Also added a clause for Osmond to make a decision to rule Pluto if he is just after labor, the forge, and governing.
@MRoy @Red Bovine giving the choice as a concession. It doesn't matter if the second choice doesn't appeal to him. It's just to give him the option not really for Loki to force him to accept. Also don't think they wanted it because of Amora bashing so red can you not jump to conclusions.
Edit: If you noticed I put a part where if he wants to take over for Asgard he can. If he wants anything else Loki can provide it. That's all giving him a look at his options and allowing Osmond to make the decision.
Also added a clause for Osmond to make a decision to rule Pluto if he is just after labor, the forge, and governing.
@MRoy @Red Bovine giving the choice as a concession. It doesn't matter if the second choice doesn't appeal to him. It's just to give him the option not really for Loki to force him to accept. Also don't think they wanted it because of Amora bashing so red can you not jump to conclusions.
Edit: If you noticed I put a part where if he wants to take over for Asgard he can. If he wants anything else Loki can provide it. That's all giving him a look at his options and allowing Osmond to make the decision.
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This has no connection with Amora at all,its about Osmond. If he is uncomfortable with being under Amora then he doesnt have to and whats harm in helping our friend to achieve his dreams the best way possible.
Also we arent wasting resources, we are investing in Pluto just like we planned to.
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He gets all of that with Nidelliver to. He is also plenty smart enough to find a way to disable the oath whenever he wants.
