"How long did you fight these guys?"
"About, uh, two or three hours."
"Hours? The Chitauri are the suckiest army in the galaxy. Why didn't you just blow up the mothership?"
"We didn't know that was a thing."
―Rocket Raccoon, Natasha Romanoff and Steve Roger

I'd rather attempt to possibly legitimize the Ravagers.
To be fair to the Chitauri those guys were going against Superhumans like the likes of Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and Hulk and those guys take on armies all the time including an army of Ultron's. Also as mentioned seems like a really bad idea to hire pirates due to our alliance with the Nova's. Also just think it's a bad idea to trust pirates in general for legit work since those are usually the least trustworthy people you can hire.
 
The way I see it ravagers provide the most hero units, the chitauri are best but their weaknesses are devastating. The outriders have no hero units but are the best if we want to just have good units and nothing exceptional.
 
[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Ravagers
[X] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[X] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)

"How long did you fight these guys?"
"About, uh, two or three hours."
"Hours? The Chitauri are the suckiest army in the galaxy. Why didn't you just blow up the mothership?"
"We didn't know that was a thing."
―Rocket Raccoon, Natasha Romanoff and Steve Roger

I'd rather attempt to possibly legitimize the Ravagers.

Also, Orbital Defence Cannon!
We are throwing away the mercs we buy so do not get attached. The reason why we should do Chitari is they are mindless so no traitors and no questions. The tech reason is to get their techno virus for man machine interface,
 
Also as mentioned seems like a really bad idea to hire pirates due to our alliance with the Nova's. Also just think it's a bad idea to trust pirates in general for legit work since those are usually the least trustworthy people you can hire.
Well, if they are being paid well to guard money, then they won't be stealing money right?
And that depends, reputation is very important in their line of work, if they can't be trusted to do the jobs they are paid to do properly, then they won't be hired. On a large scale it should be fine to trust them so long as the pay is good, you are still likely to have individuals who steal for themselves, but that is a problem for any organization, and I don't think the Ravagers stand for being slighted.
At least that's my take on it.
 
Well, if they are being paid well to guard money, then they won't be stealing money right?
And that depends, reputation is very important in their line of work, if they can't be trusted to do the jobs they are paid to do properly, then they won't be hired. On a large scale it should be fine to trust them so long as the pay is good, you are still likely to have individuals who steal for themselves, but that is a problem for any organization, and I don't think the Ravagers stand for being slighted.
At least that's my take on it.
They can say no to jobs and they have their own politics.
 
[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Have Tyr tell Loki if it is Thanos.
-- [X] Loki sends out a signal to waiting Mercs to start the operation.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going. They stop outside of sensor known sensor range. They wait for a generalized signal from Loki: one blip for start operation and a second to abort and retreat to safe distance to open communication s to Loki.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.
- [X] Have Lorelei, Amora, and Eir Scry for the objects stolen and inform Loki where.
-- [X] If the attack isn't from Thanos and the artifacts are not on Titan then redeploy to where the artifacts are.

[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Chitauri
[X] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[X] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)
Can you get a confirmation on if we can take the Lorelei and Amora action?
Also, make sure to put the mothership far away from the target range. In the Avengers, they were galaxies away.

I mean yeah, I get that the assassination attempts were serious but as I said, MAD. I'd at least want to see if can try to find the flames first along with getting some more info before anything else. Though yes, I completely support the idea that mercs are going to be sent it's only if Thanos since the Nova Corps can't complain.

@KnowledgeKing First off what did the nat 100 do for us in regards to the Dwarf Scenario? Second would we be able to apply the serum as soon as possible on Odin next turn?
Thank you, and I understand the urgency of retrieving the flames back ASAP.

[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Ravagers
[X] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[X] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)

"How long did you fight these guys?"
"About, uh, two or three hours."
"Hours? The Chitauri are the suckiest army in the galaxy. Why didn't you just blow up the mothership?"
"We didn't know that was a thing."
―Rocket Raccoon, Natasha Romanoff and Steve Roger
Yea, the thing about Ravagers... Nova Empire doesn't like them and they are led by cunning leaders who might give up if they believe they life is not worth the money they are getting.
 
Is the Scry part of my plan legal?
Does Loki and Thor get their artifacts this turn?


@KnowledgeKing
[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Have Tyr tell Loki if it is Thanos.
-- [X] Loki sends out a signal to waiting Mercs to start the operation.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going. They stop outside of sensor known sensor range. They wait for a generalized signal from Loki: one blip for start operation and a second to abort and retreat to safe distance to open communication s to Loki.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.
- [X] Have Lorelei, Amora, and Eir Scry for the objects stolen and inform Loki where.
-- [X] If the attack isn't from Thanos and the artifacts are not on Titan then redeploy to where the artifacts are.

[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Chitauri
[X] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[X] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)

Operation retaliation is about stealing our stuff back before it is studied or given away. If he doesn't have our stuff it is about crippling him, stealing his stuff and slowing him down. If he is attacking us then we use this as a way to force Thanos to back down by threatening the equivilant of his king. Even if the operation fails we get info about Titan and damage him.
The reason why I want the shields is to cover all of Asgard, even if it isn't it will lead to bigger shields. The reason I want the gauntlet plus binding is the gauntlet can be used in h2h and binding is added directly to martial.

Edit: @Red Bovine your saying pirates got past our cyber, tech, and physical security. They even attempted to assassinate out king. To do that they would have to know where they are going, be able to have sneak past our cyber defenses and be strong enough to pass our physical ones. Are you sure these are still pirates and not super soldier special forces? Or are you saying all the security and investigators are crap.
 
I mean yeah, I get that the assassination attempts were serious but as I said, MAD. I'd at least want to see if can try to find the flames first along with getting some more info before anything else. Though yes, I completely support the idea that mercs are going to be sent it's only if Thanos since the Nova Corps can't complain.

@KnowledgeKing First off what did the nat 100 do for us in regards to the Dwarf Scenario? Second would we be able to apply the serum as soon as possible on Odin next turn?
If you don't want to attack, then make a plan without attacking. I agree with you quite a lot, so I would probably vote for such a plan.
 
Is the Scry part of my plan legal?
Does Loki and Thor get their artifacts this turn?


@KnowledgeKing
Think that scying isn't going to be nearly as effective as you think. When we set the scrying pool they were limited to the Nine Realms and being able to just scry everything seems way too game breaking. Odds are that there are likely limits to prevent such things. And that's not taking into accout that Thanos may have been smart enough to put them somewhere besides Titan since it seems like he would have taken that into consideration.
 
Not sure what you're asking. What enchantment would you be lengthening and/or stalling?

I'm asking whether we could seal attributes into the gauntlet like strength endurance, accelerated healing etc.

Loki's frustrated because of Thor's actions. Especially when taking into account some of the posts here about what to do with Thor.

I mean, we could also be missing him after all the things we went through and also do to some of the posts here.

I would've preferred a subvote on how we confronted him, especially with the amount of emphasis put on being cordial and confessing that we need/miss him.
 
Cleaned up version.
[X] Plan: Protocol M.A.D
-[x] Command Thor and Tyr to bring a force with him to protect the Dwarves.
-[x] Have Osmond apply the serum to Odin and Frigga.
-[x] Have Loki build up maximum amount of seals to seal balance.
-[x] Have Sigyn evacuated using the Bifrost.
-[x] Have Amora, Lorelei and Eir Scry for confirmation that this is Thanos's forces and locate Thanos himself, then for the stolen artifacts.
-- [x] Inform Thor and Tyr of the information gathered before scrying the artifacts.
-- [x] If artifacts are not found watch the battle using both tech(if possible) and scrying. (The ideas is they pass vital information that the people on the ground don't know and is vital.)
-[x] Command 4/5 of the mercs to head over to Titan but stop outside their maximum sensor range.
-[x] If the attacking force is of Thanos.
-- [x] Loki sends a beep signal that means attack to Merc forces.
--[x] Tell the Mercs sent to attack Titan.
---[x] The Chitauri Command Center is to stay as far away as possible. While commanding the Leviathans and the Chitauri within them attack Titan's production centers and military bases. The mercs maintain radio silence on the way)
---[x] Send a small amount of Asgardian Spies with the objective to retrieve the stolen artifacts and if possible info and tech from Titan.
-[x] Send the rest 1/5th is to stay near Muspelheim.
--[x] Any ship making a course to Muspelheim is to be attacked/bombarded/boarded and the items in them are to be retrieved and brought back to Asgard/Loki.
-[x] If the attacking force is not of Thanos
--[x] Spread out the mercs to Vanaheim, Alfheim, Midgard, Nidavellir and Asgard.

Edit: Cleaned version of retaliation plan by @Sanas22.
 
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[X] Plan: Protocol M.A.D
[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Chitauri
[X] Asgard and Nidavellir (4:1)
[X] Uru Gauntlets
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing

M.A.D is between Chitauri and Thanos.
 
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No, if you told me if Doom did this, I won't be okay.
You need to specify which Doom it is. The Cosmic one or the normal one. The case for the former is reasonable, while for the later is BS.

And what kind of metal are these mercs made of, to survive the Eternal Flame? (We have already examined the merc... so you can tell us.)
And seriously, these mercs are carrying an inextinguishable flame (and a giant ass helmet) around the palace... escaping and nothing happens.
If the guards saw nothing, how did even the mercs entered the vault? A vault that uses 5 Asgardian to open would be as thick as this merc's plot armor and they saw nothing, not even the door opening.

Edit: @KnowledgeKing Also at the Dwarves attack, what can Loki see of his enemies?

Well I 100% disagree. Normal Doom would easily accomplish this. He wouldn't even have to put forth any effort. So would say...Ultron. Or Apocalypse. Or Thanos. Or Dr. Strange. Etc.

No one knows what metal or material or how durable they are, because no one saw them. Same with the moving of the doors. No one saw them get in.

Loki can see robots and ships.
 
Well I 100% disagree. Normal Doom would easily accomplish this. He wouldn't even have to put forth any effort. So would say...Ultron. Or Apocalypse. Or Thanos. Or Dr. Strange. Etc.

No one knows what metal or material or how durable they are, because no one saw them. Same with the moving of the doors. No one saw them get in.

Loki can see robots and ships.
Can Amora Scry for the atifacts from Asgard? @KnowledgeKing
 
Well I 100% disagree. Normal Doom would easily accomplish this. He wouldn't even have to put forth any effort. So would say...Ultron. Or Apocalypse. Or Thanos. Or Dr. Strange. Etc.

No one knows what metal or material or how durable they are, because no one saw them. Same with the moving of the doors. No one saw them get in.

Loki can see robots and ships.
Those people are on completely different levels. Also while I agree doom could do it, I doubt he'd actually send himself, more than likely a doombot, and even then he would still tip someone off. Can you answer what happened to Odin's own defense for the vault.
 
Well I 100% disagree. Normal Doom would easily accomplish this. He wouldn't even have to put forth any effort. So would say...Ultron. Or Apocalypse. Or Thanos. Or Dr. Strange. Etc.

No one knows what metal or material or how durable they are, because no one saw them. Same with the moving of the doors. No one saw them get in.

Loki can see robots and ships.
*Sigh* If they are invisible to every freaking means then yeah sure... Everyone could achieve this.
And what about the Merc that we re-engineered... What was he made of?
 
@KnowledgeKing, is it possible to use something like 'Stamina' as fuel? Like, is life-force a thing here? If it is, is it separate from magic?

Life force? Yeah that's possible if someone's strong enough. And you have the means to extract it.

Is the Scry part of my plan legal?
Does Loki and Thor get their artifacts this turn?

Depends on the results of the event.

Can Amora Scry for the atifacts from Asgard? @KnowledgeKing

She can try yeah.

Those people are on completely different levels. Also while I agree doom could do it, I doubt he'd actually send himself, more than likely a doombot, and even then he would still tip someone off. Can you answer what happened to Odin's own defense for the vault.

And they could all do it without tipping someone off is the thing. Odin's defenses were bypassed.

I'm asking whether we could seal attributes into the gauntlet like strength endurance, accelerated healing etc.

?? Like...seal someone else's attributes?

I mean, we could also be missing him after all the things we went through and also do to some of the posts here.

I would've preferred a subvote on how we confronted him, especially with the amount of emphasis put on being cordial and confessing that we need/miss him.

Loki's seen Thor around. There'd be no reason to miss him. Thor's just saying no and doing his own thing.

And what about the Merc that we re-engineered... What was he made of?

Standard Alien metal pretty much. Nothing too special.

@KnowledgeKing First off what did the nat 100 do for us in regards to the Dwarf Scenario? Second would we be able to apply the serum as soon as possible on Odin next turn?

Allowed you to send any and everyone you wanted immediately, to basically be there before the fight starts. Otherwise you might've just been alone fighting for awhile until you could get reinforcements.
 
@KnowledgeKing What would be our stats (or the gauntlets) if we select the Binding/Sealing option for the gauntlets?
And with Binding/Sealing + this ability (Járngreipr. Its ability is to increases the strength and speed of the user with each landed strike but it resets after the 5th strike. The user can also choose to withhold the power behind the first four strikes to gain one super strike.)
 
And they could all do it without tipping someone off is the thing. Odin's defenses were bypassed.
I mean, not really. Only Apocalypse could, and maybe Ultron and that's only due to the fact we now have tech around as well.

?? Like...seal someone else's attributes?
I'm asking if we can apply an enchantment to the gloves, and have them seal it into themselves.
Loki's seen Thor around. There'd be no reason to miss him. Thor's just saying no and doing his own thing.
You know exactly what I mean. I meant being able to just talk to him about shiz. he basically flies off, all the time, he literally spent five minutes at our wedding before dipping. Did he even give a gift....wait did we even have a best man? Was Osmond our best man?

We didn't even design it or anything. What were the courses, the hor d'oeuvres, the after party reception?

Heck we never even discussed what the ring was made out of, or the presents we got. I feel a bit bummed now.
 
@KnowledgeKing What would be our stats (or the gauntlets) if we select the Binding/Sealing option for the gauntlets?
And with Binding/Sealing + this ability (Járngreipr. Its ability is to increases the strength and speed of the user with each landed strike but it resets after the 5th strike. The user can also choose to withhold the power behind the first four strikes to gain one super strike.)

You're getting either a +5 Combat and +10 Binding or vice versa. If you get both abilities, then no + in combat, just those two. Though that ability would have to be tweaked since we're not doing exact hit counts.
I mean, not really. Only Apocalypse could, and maybe Ultron and that's only due to the fact we now have tech around as well.

I'd disagree. Doom has stealth tech AND magic. And can mess with minds. Same with Thanos. Strange has the magic to do it.

I'm asking if we can apply an enchantment to the gloves, and have them seal it into themselves.

Not sure what that means. If you apply an enchantment it's already on the gloves. What are you trying to accomplish by sealing it?

Did he even give a gift....wait did we even have a best man? Was Osmond our best man?

We didn't even design it or anything. What were the courses, the hor d'oeuvres, the after party reception?

Heck we never even discussed what the ring was made out of, or the presents we got. I feel a bit bummed now.

He gave a gift. It wasn't designed due to the nature of Asgard. But you could design all of that in a Omake or ask someone else to.
Also Thor's around to talk he just...doesn't. He's very focused on his mission right now.
 
Not sure what that means. If you apply an enchantment it's already on the gloves. What are you trying to accomplish by sealing it?
A looooong time back you said enchantment can only last for a limited time. I asked you if sealing could extend that time. You said yes. Hence why we got sealing. I'm asking if those gauntlets could let us extend an enchantment on themselves. C
 
A looooong time back you said enchantment can only last for a limited time. I asked you if sealing could extend that time. You said yes. Hence why we got sealing. I'm asking if those gauntlets could let us extend an enchantment on themselves.

Yeah, binding can help extend an enchantment. Though any enchantment from the Dwarves/vie Forging is lasting for pretty much ever.
 
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