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How long would it take before Yang ran into Raph and/or Casey Jones?
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How long would it take before Yang ran into Raph and/or Casey Jones?
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See, on one hand I get the comparison, bur on the other hand, I feel like Weiss is the overall one with a similar temperament, if we ignore Jaune who has the most overt anger issues of the cast anyway XD
Weiss would just Glyph Toss these 2 or any punk.
Meanwhile Yang in canon was chucking boulders at the Jabberwalker while only having 1 arm, so if she saw a purse snatching or some kind of fight about to break out with say a group of thugs vs 1 or 2 individuals I could see just going "fuck it" and jump in.
Not to mention there is more to compare between Yang and Ralph outside anger.
Protective big sibling energy, the bike, not afraid to throw hands.
I could see Weiss gravitating more to Leonardo and maybe Donatello, as those are the more level headed and polite ones of the brothers.
Ruby would hang with Donny (tech and building things) and Mikey (energy, and maybe a distraction from things), but I could also see her going to Leo as a fellow leader. Like, a post-V8 Ruby would likely find solice and guidance in Leo and Splinter.
Blake...given her "cat-like" actions in the past.....seeing a being like Splinter (be him a mutated rat or a mutated human) would be interesting.
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If the Turtles or Casey saw Yang and Blake kissing....which one would make the "cat got your tongue" pun?
See, to me this feels... Well it feels like a very surface level read on the RWBY cast, very archetypical rather than on the fact they are subversions, like:
"Yang, the CQC person hangs out with the angry duo, the "Mature Ice Queen" gravitates towards the stern leader or intellectual tech guy, Ruby is a "Genki girl" and a weapons nerd so she goes to Donatello or Mikey despite the fact Yang is also a brilliant engineer & Blake is a cat joke."
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See, to me this feels... Well it feels like a very surface level read on the RWBY cast, very archetypical rather than on the fact they are subversions, like:
"Yang, the CQC person hangs out with the angry duo, the "Mature Ice Queen" gravitates towards the stern leader or intellectual tech guy, Ruby is a "Genki girl" and a weapons nerd so she goes to Donatello or Mikey despite the fact Yang is also a brilliant engineer & Blake is a cat joke."
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Well that's because that is how initial meetings tend to go.
Sometimes people gravitate to certain people because they share similar likes, dislikes, hobbies etc. Like, I only met my girlfriend because we were in the same class, needed partners, and I overheard her talking about Naruto, and thus I went to her. I have an assistant manager at work I chat with more than any other co-worker because we both like and watch anime and are both fans of RWBY.
Heck, even RWBY does this to an extent.
Yang and Ruby's first Justice League character tends to be Clark Kent. Kind, friendly, has a more rural background than the others, etc.
Weiss' first JL is usually Bruce Wayne. Rich.
Blake tends to find herself with Diana. Royalty of an Island Nation set apart from the rest of the world.
Jaune was paired with Jessica because they both have survivor's guilt and imposter syndrome.
While on the flipside we also had that Blake moment where you think the ninja-like catgirl and former terrorist group member is going to pick a lock as we see her inspecting it and the door, before we just see her go straight to breaking it down.
The reason why most fics and crossover stuff pair characters off on "surface level" things is because it's quick, simple, but also how we humans tend to break off into our own little cliques at various times in our lives. If the crossover is quick and short, like say a game or a one-shot event, then things remain surface level, but if the crossover can go for a substantial amount of time then that gives a writer time to either further flesh out those initial pairings and/or slowly let other characters get to know each other and build those bonds.
I feel you are missing my point but I'll get into why further down:
You see, Clark was put near them, they didn't gravitate towards one another during a large group meeting, he ended up near them by chance or someone else's design, same with Bruce, ETC.
& while I get what you are saying, I feel that this isn't really surface level and also glosses over how the characters dynamics tend to work.
When meeting new groups, figures of authority, or going into battle, RWBY tends to default to Ruby being at the helm; so if its a group meeting then she and Leo likely are bouncing off one another due to positions of leadership right away. If its the turtles stumbling on Yang right after arrival then its the group interacting with the individual, or its disparate characters coming together slowly. Obviously context effects a lot, but like in your example, anyone in RWBY would be liable to chase down a purse snatcher, Ruby's main intro to the series was stopping a store robbery by beating the ever loving shit out of gangsters and causing property damage.
I just don't see the vibes you are describing emerging, because that doesn't feel like the characters to me.
I don't see someone as rough around the edges as Raphael coming off as anything but a jerk to Yang, or the others to be honest. Ruby is not going to be in the head-space for Michelangelo's antics, or talking ship with Donatello who is likely much more interested in Yang's arm & she may want a peak at their Shell-Cycle engines. Weiss, especially if we go by the Ever After's tone, was the one most liable to go on a angry rant or act out in a huffy manner similar to Rafael, while Blakes probably having some very complicated thoughts about a world with no Faunus, but also the mutants and them living in the sewer and so on.
Sorry, I hoe this doesn't come off as rude.
Weiss: "Let's try and figure this out. We fell from the sky. Ruby was offered a pizza by a 6 foot turtle." *Ruby is sitting on a bench next to Mikey, quietly eating a slice of pizza*
Mikey: "She looked like she needed a pick-me-up."
Weiss: "Some people tried to mug Blake and I in an alley. And Yang, you said you're arm was taken by..."
Yang: "A couple of punks with purple dragons on their clothes."
Weiss: "Yes. That." *sighs and rubs her face* "At least I don't think this is some digital world we got trapped in, again."
Mikey: "Oh, you guys had that happen, too?" *they all look at him* "What? Something I said?"
Mikey: "She looked like she needed a pick-me-up."
Weiss: "Some people tried to mug Blake and I in an alley. And Yang, you said you're arm was taken by..."
Yang: "A couple of punks with purple dragons on their clothes."
Weiss: "Yes. That." *sighs and rubs her face* "At least I don't think this is some digital world we got trapped in, again."
Mikey: "Oh, you guys had that happen, too?" *they all look at him* "What? Something I said?"
In some ways, the TMNT world will drive her more insane than the Ever After.
Weiss: "AAAAAAH!!!"
*everyone rushed into the kitchen of The Lair and finds Weiss pointing her rapier at the open freezer*
Ruby: "Weiss?! What happened??"
Weiss: "S-Somekind of creature is LIVING in their freezer!"
Mikey: *getting between her and the freezer* "Woah now. Let's all take it easy. They aren't a threat. It's just Ice-Cream Cat."
RWBY: "WHAT?!"
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BryonNightshade's version of the "War Machines" fic just brought up an interesting idea:
Would Beacon Academy ever put its student team leaders in a non-written "Kobayashi Maru"-esque exercise? A no-win scenario simulation where Huntspeople tested on how they respond in the face of either overwhelming odds, or total mission failure?
BryonNightshade's fic had Glynda oversee "Maru's Drift", where a team leader is forced to take charge of two teams while defending a town from Grimm hordes. Jaune and Blake both went through the scenario separately, with both tests ending with all Huntsmen dead and the town destroyed.
Blake came out traumatized, but Penny believes she passed due to A) upholding the Huntspeople code by refusing to back down in the face of Grimm, and B) her refusal to accept no-win scenarios and steadfastly insisting that things could always be made better.
Would Beacon Academy ever put its student team leaders in a non-written "Kobayashi Maru"-esque exercise? A no-win scenario simulation where Huntspeople tested on how they respond in the face of either overwhelming odds, or total mission failure?
BryonNightshade's fic had Glynda oversee "Maru's Drift", where a team leader is forced to take charge of two teams while defending a town from Grimm hordes. Jaune and Blake both went through the scenario separately, with both tests ending with all Huntsmen dead and the town destroyed.
Blake came out traumatized, but Penny believes she passed due to A) upholding the Huntspeople code by refusing to back down in the face of Grimm, and B) her refusal to accept no-win scenarios and steadfastly insisting that things could always be made better.
Which version?
I kinda like the idea of Ruby talking to Peter B. Parker (Spiderverse) because aside from showing off Peter's own character growth since Into the Spiderverse, it also means Ruby can babysit Mayday Parker.
Basically just about any version will do.
Like, in the comics alone Spider-man has had hot dogs on roofs with people like Captain America, or even a burrito with Loki of all people.
Hmm, I think there'd be efforts to stress test the studentds abilities to handle things going wrong, but I am unsure they'd be so delierately engineered.
Like, his is still the Academy that launched the applicants via catapult and is very OK with cavalier danger provided there is an instructor around or they have been operating for a year or more.
Basically, Remnant is such a brutal place, that I kind of thing, the students will run into no win or not saving anyone scenarios on their own before they even come close to graduating, if I recall CFVY went through one. So orchestrating fake one's would likely be a lot of work and how reliable they'd consider it would be up in the air.
Given her imposter syndrome and living up to expectations Miles would make a lot of sense.
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We see a lot in RWBY that the type of virtue pushed by the academies is basically "never fail ever." I think Ozpin even says something along the lines of "There is shame in retreat" at one point, and half of Ruby's entire character arc is reconciling her belief that Huntsmen are invincible paragons of justice with the horrendous asskicking the heroes get over the series.
The academies saying "sometimes you just gotta take the L" is antithetical to their philosophy.
I don't think Ozpin preaches a "never fail ever" line of thought. The dude knows he is a fuck up.
from The Badge and The Burden, when Ozpin speaks with Ruby
Ozpin in V5 episode Rest and Resolutions after telling RWBYJNR about the Branwens and Birds and Magic
If anything, these quotes show in a way that Ozpin was still beating himself up over the various mistakes in the past and trying in his own way to try and guide Ruby and the others to not do the same.
........Did he do it wrong and still fuck things up in the end for them?
YES.
Ya, the mission Team CFVY just returned from in the show when we first see the full team on camera in V2 was said mission.
They failed to save any of the civilians and Coco was for a time stuck in a situation where her claustrophobia kicked in.
ya I could see Miles as a good spider candidate for Ruby or RWBY to hang with.
I think this is reaching a bit, Ozpin seems to think his approach is right, or at least the best option available.
The fact said approach sent Pyrrha's psyche spiraling did not register to him as a failure on his part, nor did he see himself as having unduly pressured or manipulated her. Similarly, he 100% did shame Raven for leaving the war after having agreed to fight it; even though she agreed under false pretenses that were put forward by an authority figure who had tons of influence over her life and those closest to her. & we know he actively grooms teams like CFVY and RWBY and his advice to Ruby, while not the sole cause of her issues, did factor into her mentality of never being allowed to be a screw up, failure or otherwise be less than the best possible at all times.
He's not a selfish, egotistical monster or anything, but Ozpin's methods are more iffy and he is far less self aware than I think you are advertising.
Thanks, I think they could definitely bond over legacies and the like.
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Simple concept, but likely difficult to make in-character and convincing: Taking the gag in RWBY Chibi where Winter Schnee summons a log cabin, and trying to come up with a serious main-show-canon explanation not just for what would have led her to fight one, but why that battle would be so soul-redefining that it can work as a summon.
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Obviously she ran into the Remnant equivalent of Hell House and the experience was so surreal it became a formative memory.
Have you guys checked out this RWBY crossover fic with Gundam Build Fighters? It's pretty good.
Hmm, if I had to say, it would be that she was on some kind of mission deep into the Atlas wilderness, maybe a training mission, or maybe investigating something. Her ship went down and her Aura is low, fortunately she stumbled on a house when she was in need of refuge. But, the house is possessed by a Gheist. She can't just destroy the house because then the Gheist will just fly elsewhere and she'll be exposed to the elements again and freeze to death. So its a game of cat and mouse and horror movie style haunting, with Winter fighting the space she's living in without destroying it and needing to find the Gheist's weak point. She won after an arduous night but it was an intense battle of wills and mystery and terror.