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Knowing how the Faunus subplot went, it would probably make more sense for it to be an embargo (or even sanctions) against the other kingdoms that Menagerie enforced themselves.
Lets Get To It! Rwby Ideas/discussion Thread
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I think it'd be less of an official "No one is allowed to trade here!" thing, given we know the Sea Captain and that whole vessel can clearly travel to Kuo Kuana from Anima and back without issue. I think it would be more like, a refusal to trade or acknowledge the state. Functionally similar, but not enforced legally, so people who can go there and want to won't face legal push-back but also likely can't claim stuff on insurance if anything is lost or gets damaged.
Random thought
The Ninja Turtles suddenly find themselves in Mantle during the events of V7.
They manage to hide at first, but between broken bots and more missing supplies and both Ironwood and Robyn take notice that something is happening. At first they blame each other, but reports slowly start to trickle in that it is neither an Atlas Soldier nor is it one of Robyn's girls.
Thus some of our heroes, namely Blake and Ruby, are looking for the "culprits".
The Ninja Turtles suddenly find themselves in Mantle during the events of V7.
They manage to hide at first, but between broken bots and more missing supplies and both Ironwood and Robyn take notice that something is happening. At first they blame each other, but reports slowly start to trickle in that it is neither an Atlas Soldier nor is it one of Robyn's girls.
Thus some of our heroes, namely Blake and Ruby, are looking for the "culprits".
"Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore." *Smack* "Ow!"
"Can it, Mikey."
random thought
RWBY/Marvel
Let's say RWBY and maybe JNPR/JNR end up on a Marvel Earth, spend time there and basically integrate with the world and make friends and connections
and then the infamous Marvel Civil War comic events happen and they are faced with picking between Team Ironman and the Registration Act or Team Captain America and standing against it
how do you guys think our misplaced huntsmen and huntresses would fair?
Team Iron, Team Captain, or stubbornly try to remain neutral?
RWBY/Marvel
Let's say RWBY and maybe JNPR/JNR end up on a Marvel Earth, spend time there and basically integrate with the world and make friends and connections
and then the infamous Marvel Civil War comic events happen and they are faced with picking between Team Ironman and the Registration Act or Team Captain America and standing against it
how do you guys think our misplaced huntsmen and huntresses would fair?
Team Iron, Team Captain, or stubbornly try to remain neutral?
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The Marvel Civil War comic event sucked and both sides of Civil War sucked, even if Captain America's anti-Registration Faction was more in the right for recognizing the Registration Act as unjust.
Iron Man shoves anti-Registration people into the Negative Zone and had Mr. Fantastic create a cloned Thor slave. Captain America meanwhile got written as his Ultimate version, attacks Iron Man under a flag of truce at one point, and denigrates those who leave the fight.
Declaring neutrality like the X-Men is their best option.
So this exchange happened on the IWIW RWBY thread:
Like, one could make something interesting of a person being like "I'm not gonna fall down the path of villainy like Cinder, I can handle it!" But then when put in her situation lose it potentially faster or just as fast as her and generally find it very, very hard not to fall down the villainous path, and that without their previous life memories, they may realize they would 100% have done so, and that assumes they didn't.
& tat's a pretty interesting question to me, and could make for an interesting story, I think "When" would depend on the the of themes one wants to play with.
Like, one could make something interesting of a person being like "I'm not gonna fall down the path of villainy like Cinder, I can handle it!" But then when put in her situation lose it potentially faster or just as fast as her and generally find it very, very hard not to fall down the villainous path, and that without their previous life memories, they may realize they would 100% have done so, and that assumes they didn't.
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I assume you're talking about them being inserted into Cinder's abusive childhood here? In which case, I'd hope the SI would know better than to just try to endure it all until emancipation/Academy application age exactly like Cinder tried to do, without any changes. The SI should already know how slim that hope is, and should show some agency for the sake of more interesting story influence if nothing else, and try to get themselves out of there earlier.
Like look up Atlas' child abuse laws in-universe to confirm if what the Madame is doing to her is actually illegal, in which case arrange for the necessary evidence/witnesses of the abuse to get her arrested. Or if not, and Atlas is actually enough of a classist dystopia for it to be legal, then to scrounge/steal enough resources while getting trained by Rhodes to run away slightly earlier, and start the street rat part of her life story with SI knowledge advantages and without being a quadruple-homicide fugitive from the law, probably even being able to actually apply to an Academy afterwards (not Atlas though).
Whatever the case, even if they actually snap and kill the Madame, stepsisters, and Rhodes the same way, they should at least be smart enough to determine that they'll never join Salem to inevitably be enslaved again.
That was the idea, though be it their thought process was rooted less in passiveness and more a moral purity ego-centrism that made them think Cinder's actions are unreasonable and that they were just "Built different" and so wouldn't find themself in her shows due to being "Smarter, better, more moral" ETC and then hitting the same walls she did.
I do not grasp where this idea that Atlas has child protective services comes from, or that its easy for a penniless slave to gather evidence, witnesses or open a legal case against one's wealthy legal guardian. Especially when kept on a short electrified leash and bereft of access to things like Scrolls or the ability to engage with others in anything but secrecy of a store room at the dead of night. Whether its legal is irrelevant to whether doing anything about it legally is practical and I feel its presumptuous to think that Cinder didn't consider this and that maybe there would be hurdles in the way just cutting and running. Though maybe "I can totally solve this problem" and then hitting walls would make more sense than my original idea, so fair point there.
Keep in mind we don't know how Cinder got found by Salem, could they say the same if whisked away to the Ever Night against their will and brought to Salem personally?
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I mean, Rhodes is right there isn't he? He's already sympathetic to Cinder and what he knows of her situation, is a Huntsman who can apprehend criminals, has his own Scroll, is arguably too law abiding, and the Madame doesn't know to watch out for him. This is why it depends on how dystopian Atlas actually is, because even if they don't have CPS, "Holy shit, you've been torturing a child with a shock collar? Lose custody of the child and go to jail for a while." is a pretty low bar for any civil modern-adjacent society.
If it is illegal, it wouldn't take much to explain the collar to him and ask him to, after the SI purposely screws up something like dropping plates in the lobby during one of his visits, wait a few seconds before sneakily following into the back storage room where the Madame likes to drag Cinder for the "punishment" sessions away from the guests/witnesses. Then he records the abuse from the doorway, probably with some extra incriminating argument prompts between the SI and Madame, before stepping in to take her to the police with the recording and Cinder's electrical neck scars (if they've developed at this point) as evidence, plus his and the SI's testimonies. The abused child shouldn't need to foot the bill for the criminal case against the Madame at that point in any reasonable legal system, but if the wealth difference somehow does become a factor, Rhodes could resort to releasing the story and footage to the news so the resulting scandal and outcry of public support for Cinder's case attracts the prosecutor they need pro bono.
Canon Cinder wasn't stupid or anything for not thinking of doing this, she was just a trapped and uneducated child whose abuser had a vested interest in keeping her little slave ignorant of any possible recourse to get out from under her thumb, so she wouldn't even know to try. The only thing different about the SI is having enough outside context/perspective to do otherwise. Although again, this depends on "electrocuting children" being illegal in Atlas (which they can find out by asking Rhodes or looking it up with a few minutes of borrowing his Scroll during training), otherwise the only option is becoming a runaway earlier.
Based on what we know about how the other members joined Salem's cabal, they either found out about her existence and sought her out (Hazel, initially to try to kill her) or did stuff that made them stand out and catch her attention as being worthy of a direct recruitment attempt (Tyrian being a serial killer whose prison transport she raided). Given that canon Cinder post-Midnight was a fugitive murderer whose trauma put her in the "gain power at all costs to never be victimized again" sunk cost mindset, her lifestyle after that point was presumably of the violent criminal variety. So her initial meeting with Salem could have been any combination of those two circumstances (and she at least initially thought that she was a willing participant, with Salem's promises of power for working for her), in which case all the SI has to do to avoid a Salem recruitment is to not seek her out and not become notorious enough to attract her notice, which is a lot more feasible if they can avoid the initial murders. After all, Salem won't even think to target you if she has no reason to even notice your existence amongst the rest of humanity in the first place.
So, gonna answer this in a slight disorganized fashion:
1: Fun fact but Salem actually sought Hazel out, I made the mistake of thinking he found her too, but his quote clears it up:
| When she came for me, I killed her over and over again. The longest she was gone was only a few hours, before she put herself back together. When I couldn't lift my arms anymore, she showed me that, through her, I could have the vengeance I needed. |
2: I find it very hard to believe Rhode's could be aware of the slavery and Cinder's planned murder attempt but not be aware of the shock collar.
3: I feel its important to keep in mind that laws are enforced by biased people and systems & Madame is at a minimum, upper class, if not well connected and well off to say the least. If we go by the comics we also know that Atlas's labor laws are at best shit, and that's before we dig into how within canon, the SDC can do all sorts of criminal things and get away with it even when they cause mass death like the mine collapse and if we go by the Arrowfell game, mobsters have fancy office buildings up in Atlas and operate quite comfortably with the upper crust. Heck, Jac infested a suit of armor with Grimm and then threw it at his daughter and permanently scarred her, literally no one says a thing about it because he's rich and thus the laws don't apply to him.
4: When I say the above I don't strictly mean in the sense of "The rich are completely insulated from the law" but I mean fuck, just look at hos blatantly criminal and abusive a lot of rich people are and how rarely they face anything resembling consequences for it? Even if everything went off to plan and Rhode's was actually useful there's no guarantee it'd end in Cinder's freedom, or Madame actually being punished and that's on the better end of the scenario. If she is able to play things right, or the plan doesn't go quite off, she could well claim there's no proof se ever used the shock collar, or that Cinder was violent and dangerous and she needed to to keep the other children safe while she tries to socialize her, ETC.
Conclusion:
My main thing here is that I feel you overestimate how straightforward this process is, modern slavery in the forms of domestic servitude born of human trafficking are a a massive problem in the modern day and in places like the UK and USA and that is basically Cinder's situation and I feel that if Madame is that confident in her power over Cinder and that "The law first" Rhode's did so little that you may be underselling the complexity of this task even for an SI.
With that in mind, I do appreciate what you outlined here:
As I did initially take the framing of things the wrong way and for that I apologize, I just wanted to outline above the angle I look at Cinder's circumstances from. It is potentially possible that with the outside of context knowledge and less overall trauma that a person placed in her shoes might be able to legally get out. I mostly just think its integral to emphasize that these sort of power and social dynamics are deeply entrenched and incredibly hard to overcome.
As an aside, I kind of wonder if Emerald might get recruited as a potential Maiden candidate, or Winter, or May, or Blake or Ilia? Unless there was something very, very specific that drew Salem to Cinder that we don't know about yet.
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"And she can punch a tree so hard that splinters shoot out from the other side and she's always ready to do right by you."
Yang really, really wished that Ruby could overcome her social worries by talking about herself. Or even failing that, that the something else she could warm up with by talking about wasn't her older sister. This was Beacon! There should be weapon nerds here that Ruby could geek out with over alloys and designs!
Yang gave a tight smile to the group of fellow students. Most of them looked bored and only some of those were bothering to put a polite smile on their face as they listened to Ruby talk about anything but herself. The others seemed a lot more interested in Yang's cleavage and thighs which really wasn't an improvement. Well, better than leering at Ruby, for what little that was worth.
"I may be badass," Yang said, grabbing Ruby's shoulders and holding her little sister in front of her, "but Ruby's the one who's actually done some heroing out there in Vale. Why don't you tell them about that, huh?"
"Oh, no, no way," Ruby squeaked, shaking her head and waving her hands back and forth in front of herself, practically vibrating out of her skin as she moved. "They don't want to hear about that!"
"Damn right," one of the other freshmen muttered, earning himself a glare from Yang.
It wasn't even like Yang had any real friends from Signal. Sure, she knew some of the other graduates, well enough to hang out with and talk while waiting for something more interesting happening. But the ones that she actually liked either hadn't gone to Beacon or just hadn't made the cut to be a Hunter entirely. Yang could at least have introduced Ruby to some of them and split off from her sister to let her do her own socializing in decently safe hands.
"So, Yang," another one said, her eyes not rising even to Yang's chin, "want to go tour the grounds with me?"
"I'll pass," Yang said coolly. "You should buy me dinner first at the very least."
"What?" Ruby asked, twisting her head to look at her older sister. "We just ate at the transit port."
Man, it would be nice to think that Ruby had recognized that for what it was but Yang didn't have high hopes on that score. Ruby's idea of dirty talk was whispering stuff to Crescent Rose as she opened the scythe's casing. Plenty of the other freshies understood what that had been about, going by the looks on their faces.
Okay, Yang was holding out hope that even if Ruby managed to get onto the same team as Yang, then at least they wouldn't be partners. Two other people that she'd have to spend time with, one of them her actual factual life or death partner, should get Ruby to open up around someone other than Yang.
Because Yang wasn't sure how much more of this she could stand!
Say hello to Xlotol, the Godzilla Grimm.
I felt compelled share this here.
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Land of Steel and Snow [Working title]
Synopsis: With Beacon's fall and the death of Ozpin a new approach was needed, Ironwood was certain. That meant breaking with his old friend's commitment to secrecy, it also meant going against the old wizard in regards to the Shinobi. A choice that would alter the trajectory of nations and individuals alike, for better and for worse.
Characters
Protaginists - Team RWBY, Team Seven [Yamoto, Naruto, Sakura, Sai], Hinata Hyuga, Penny, Happy Huntresses
Other: General Ironwood, Ace Ops
Antagonists: Salem, Watts, Han, Obito
Pairings:
Bumblebee [Blake/Yang]
Black Cherry [Blake/Sakura]
Black Yorse and the Cherry Tree [Blake/Yang/Sakura]
Naruto/Hinata
Something I've tinkering with the past few weeks, mainly focusing on combining the two mythologies of Naruto and RWBY in a way that makes sense. At the forefront though will be a character-driven tale exploring clashing values, reform vs revolution, the impacts of dehumanization, love, and hope.
Synopsis: With Beacon's fall and the death of Ozpin a new approach was needed, Ironwood was certain. That meant breaking with his old friend's commitment to secrecy, it also meant going against the old wizard in regards to the Shinobi. A choice that would alter the trajectory of nations and individuals alike, for better and for worse.
Characters
Protaginists - Team RWBY, Team Seven [Yamoto, Naruto, Sakura, Sai], Hinata Hyuga, Penny, Happy Huntresses
Other: General Ironwood, Ace Ops
Antagonists: Salem, Watts, Han, Obito
Pairings:
Bumblebee [Blake/Yang]
Black Cherry [Blake/Sakura]
Black Yorse and the Cherry Tree [Blake/Yang/Sakura]
Naruto/Hinata
Something I've tinkering with the past few weeks, mainly focusing on combining the two mythologies of Naruto and RWBY in a way that makes sense. At the forefront though will be a character-driven tale exploring clashing values, reform vs revolution, the impacts of dehumanization, love, and hope.
I really like the name and the into is extremely solid for establishing a fusion based world!
Yay!
Nice name, also what?
Oh my, lucky Sakura, and or Yang, and or Blake? XD
Sounds super solid, kudos!
Got an idea for a fanfic oc Mc
Name: Set
Faunus type: Deinosuchus or at least he says as much because he's obscenely tall most people just call him a crocodile faunus
Semblance: Mulahadra it allows the user to generate 5 times as much biomatter and free form manipulate it. This has a variety of uses. Gigantifiication, Regeneration, creating dermal armor, increasing mass while keeping body the same, variable shape-shifting and the works. Not shape-shifting into another person it's more body alteration.
Was childhood friends with Blake and had a crush on her but gave up when Adam. He never looked back even after what happened. He has a history of running away from his issues and things that make him feel rejected. And even if he wants too he never turns back out of shame which he masks in pride. He falls into the same cycle deteriorating and pushing the blame off himself and onto other things. All the while he wishes to change but is too ashamed to start. He's abandoned many relationships and people and made many mistakes. But he is strong and he gets an invitation from Ozpin to go to beacon. Maybe he can change his life. Maybe a free start. Until he sees Blake there.
Name: Set
Faunus type: Deinosuchus or at least he says as much because he's obscenely tall most people just call him a crocodile faunus
Semblance: Mulahadra it allows the user to generate 5 times as much biomatter and free form manipulate it. This has a variety of uses. Gigantifiication, Regeneration, creating dermal armor, increasing mass while keeping body the same, variable shape-shifting and the works. Not shape-shifting into another person it's more body alteration.
Was childhood friends with Blake and had a crush on her but gave up when Adam. He never looked back even after what happened. He has a history of running away from his issues and things that make him feel rejected. And even if he wants too he never turns back out of shame which he masks in pride. He falls into the same cycle deteriorating and pushing the blame off himself and onto other things. All the while he wishes to change but is too ashamed to start. He's abandoned many relationships and people and made many mistakes. But he is strong and he gets an invitation from Ozpin to go to beacon. Maybe he can change his life. Maybe a free start. Until he sees Blake there.
I can't offer much on the OC, but best of luck with it, though I should note I think the creators said Semblances do not allow for shape shifting, which gigantification would likely qualify as.
Meanwhile, I have had this idea knocking around in my head since I saw this fanart.
Basically, rather than facing whatever fate she did in canon, Summer found herself in the Ever After and due to timey whimey weirdness dilations thinks she's only been there a few weeks or months. To her this has been a fun, whimsical adventure, a stark relief from what happened with Salem and she believes she'll find a magical means of dealing with her too and then go home to her daughters-
What do you mean twenty fucking years have passed!?
Meanwhile, I have had this idea knocking around in my head since I saw this fanart.
Basically, rather than facing whatever fate she did in canon, Summer found herself in the Ever After and due to timey whimey weirdness dilations thinks she's only been there a few weeks or months. To her this has been a fun, whimsical adventure, a stark relief from what happened with Salem and she believes she'll find a magical means of dealing with her too and then go home to her daughters-
What do you mean twenty fucking years have passed!?
I'd be laughing if that wasn't so tragic.
You are right about Semblances not allowing shapeshifting, as that would further muddy the waters in the Semblance VS Magic debate in the fandom >.>
Imagine if Lost In Time Summer ran into Rusted Knight Jaune
Poor Jaune might think he is looking at an older Ruby, while Summer sees the Rusted Knight from the fairy tale she was just reading to her daughters the other day.
And when Jaune's figures out that she's Summer and not Ruby, they're gonna have a very awkward conversation about how long she's actually been gone.
Right? Like I keep oscillating between "There are so many hilarious dynamics" and "Sheer heartbreak!"
Low key I was musing she'd run across the whole group or RWBY first, but that's more of a preference thing and her meeting Rusted Knight Jaune and being like "Oh wow, this place hit you hard" would definitely be interesting.
Summer (Meets Jaune) I am not sure I like you girls hanging out with much older scraggly men.
Ruby: You're OK with uncle Qrow.
Yang: Also, he was our age twenty four hours ago.
Honestly Ruby & Yang's respective reactions would be super fun cos like...
For Yang this is kind of a dream come true, but its also not super complicated, its a relief her mom isn't a Grimm experiment and there's obvious awkwardness and grief from missed moments but Summer was by this point very much a person to her, flawed, real, her own woman.
To Ruby, Summer is this iconic figure, someone she loves and resents, admires and envies, feels compared and contrasted against, modelled herself on but never really "Knew" and who was overall the "Better" Ruby who still failed, and now she's here, she didn't fail she was just delayed but she's also just so... Ordinary that it feels like a betrayal.
Granted Summer's not doing much better than Ruby as she is also in the "Everyone projected onto me and I am as much a façade as a real person" issue, with the sudden added guilt of missing her daughters growing up and them becoming Huntresses and said life clearly placing a heavy toll on them.
Yang: Once again I am the most emotionally stable and together member of my family and the only one being normal about this.
Though fun aside, Summer just assumes Blake & Yang are dating, and is flabbergasted to find out they aren't yet, or that they only just confessed.
Summer: Direct me to the time fruit magic man!
Jaune: The clock trees broken.
Summer: FUUUUUUCK!
Also from someone else I discussed this idea with:
Summer: something something the bee's knees!
Blake: [oh god Yang speaks like a senior citizen]
I doubt Yang would be all that together.
We've seen her break down when it comes to family.
We heard the emotion is Yang's voice when she confronts Salem.
Like, at first she might start thinking again that they are all dead and that is why she is seeing Summer as she was when she left for that mission.
Then the joy and tears of realizing that they aren't dead and Summer is right here in front of her.