La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

[perfectgeneral]

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So a great helm over three stars divided by a chevron.

I'm staying on the band wagon for this one. Although I say that... a siege and blockade makes more sense. Rolling up the smaller garrisons and winning over the populous outside of Palermo.

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Because the right choice is rarely the entertaining one? Certainly the minority vote.
Military victory might not grant us strategic victory if the population are alienated by a savage assault. At least setting the board doesn't Copenhagen the town so much.

 

[AvidFicReader]

Setting the board engages the Sicilian navy in the harbor, where presumably they'll be too busy repelling boarders to attack our transports. It also makes use of I Corps to form a perimeter around the city rather than have them sit on the ships while III Corps focuses on neutralizing the coastal defenses.

Victory or Death only uses III Corps for the amphibious assault, and our fleet focuses on shore bombardment in support of the assault but ignores the 15 ships in port. III Corps splits it's objectives between the coastal defenses and hunting down the king.

Everything else is the same.

Edit:Since Therese is leading from the front in both plans, VoD means Therese is absolutely joining the amphibious assault with Dumas', while StB means it's a coin flip if she's joining the assault with Dumas or establishing the perimeter with Kleber.

 

[Haruhi is Waifu]

[X] Plan Setting the board

 

[Magoose]

So a great helm over three stars divided by a chevron.

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That's for a different Auclair Family.

Victory or Death only uses III Corps for the amphibious assault, and our fleet focuses on shore bombardment in support of the assault but ignores the 15 ships in port. III Corps splits it's objectives between the coastal defenses and hunting down the king.

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III Corps would be the Main thrust of the assault, and I Corps would be the second wave once the beachhead or port is secured in victory or death.

Edit:Since Therese is leading from the front in both plans, VoD means Therese is absolutely joining the amphibious assault with Dumas', while StB means it's a coin flip if she's joining the assault with Dumas or establishing the perimeter with Kleber.

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Therese will be joining the Assult in both plans if she leads from the front unless the write-in specifically calls for her to go somewhere else.

 

[Magoose]

Meanwhile with Brian and Napoleon:

"How come you get the bigger office?"

"I'm the first consul and I require it for my assistants and secretary's. Not-everyone can work and write entire systems and laws and whatever else you do in two hours like you can."

"But the office I have is small."

"Well perhaps come up with a better idea then rewriting the entire code of laws of France, throw away the constitution I've been working on with the Senate, and help me deal with our looming debt... and then we'll talk about getting you a bigger office."

"and Robespierre?"

"Be thankful he hasn't challenged me to a duel yet, I have enough things to worry about from the Senate to worry about him killing me."

 

[Alexander Sturnn]

Meanwhile with Brian and Napoleon:

"How come you get the bigger office?"

"I'm the first consul and I require it for my assistants and secretary's. Not-everyone can work and write entire systems and laws and whatever else you do in two hours like you can."

"But the office I have is small."

"Well perhaps come up with a better idea then rewriting the entire code of laws of France, throw away the constitution I've been working on with the Senate, and help me deal with our looming debt... and then we'll talk about getting you a bigger office."

"and Robespierre?"

"Be thankful he hasn't challenged me to a duel yet, I have enough things to worry about from the Senate to worry about him killing me."

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Oh dear... I can see these two have their hands full.

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

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[Magoose]

Oh dear... I can see these two have their hands full.

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That was more of a joke thing: France isn't on fire yet but their pulling teeth trying to stop the country from falling to civil war again.

I just thought it would be funny that, despite all that, they both still find ways to complain and bitch to each other.

 

[Melifaro]

That was more of a joke thing: France isn't on fire yet but their pulling teeth trying to stop the country from falling to civil war again.

I just thought it would be funny that, despite all that, they both still find ways to complain and bitch to each other.

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The combination of such strange personalities at the head of the state is more like stories from comic books with teams of superheroes than the system of political governance of the country. I think the society will compose quite a large number of anecdotes and funny stories, depending on their preferences in the Triumvirate.

 

[Alexander Sturnn]

I just thought it would be funny that, despite all that, they both still find ways to complain and bitch to each other.

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Hey, they wouldn't be friends if they didn't do that from time to time. XD

 

[Magoose]

The combination of such strange personalities at the head of the state is more like stories from comic books with teams of superheroes than the system of political governance of the country. I think the society will compose quite a large number of anecdotes and funny stories, depending on their preferences in the Triumvirate.

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Well we have three flavors to go with.


It's just-we have a revolutionary zealot that really hates the first consul becausehe removed him from power 1 time, and heis really pushing for a very radical constitution to be enacted.

then we have Brian the moderate who is trying to Balance the needs of the citizens, the wants of the Republicans, and throwing royalists out of windows. Oh and he wants to make sure the peace will at least last longer then a single year, otherwise things get messy. Very messy

oh and soldiers pensions. The thing thatforced him into power.

something he can't do without playing every side and trying to make deals that will inevitably lead to some very angry people.

And then we got the ambitious Napoleon who has grand plans to reshape France into his own image with his new Law Code.

and depending on how reined in Brian can keep him, possibly from taking over as an autocrat.

 

[SzechuanSauce]

Well we have three flavors to go with.


It's just-we have a revolutionary zealot that really hates the first consul becausehe removed him from power 1 time, and heis really pushing for a very radical constitution to be enacted.

then we have Brian the moderate who is trying to Balance the needs of the citizens, the wants of the Republicans, and throwing royalists out of windows. Oh and he wants to make sure the peace will at least last longer then a single year, otherwise things get messy. Very messy

oh and soldiers pensions. The thing thatforced him into power.

something he can't do without playing every side and trying to make deals that will inevitably lead to some very angry people.

And then we got the ambitious Napoleon who has grand plans to reshape France into his own image with his new Law Code.

and depending on how reined in Brian can keep him, possibly from taking over as an autocrat.

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Napoleon was a master politician and I believe you've stated multiple times that Brian is clueless on politics. So, I do think that it would be very likely the latter is gonna be shafted to a large degree at one point.

 

[Magoose]

Napoleon was a master politician and I believe you've stated multiple times that Brian is clueless on politics. So, I do think that it would be very likely the latter is gonna be shafted to a large degree at one point.

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Indeed. But at least Brian is learning.

Hopefully Brian Learns that he's fucked and nopes out

Or at very least learn realpolitik, otherwise he's as good as dead

 

[perfectgeneral]

A codified law of ideals is bound to mire in realpolitik and loopholes. A law of tradition and precedent is ill suited to change and adaptation from entrenched interests. The spirit of justice has no human body. Metric codifies the material and so has lasting rational hope. A jury without a moderating code is a mob at leisure. Good luck bringing equality before the law.

 

[Magoose]

A codified law of ideals is bound to mire in realpolitik and loopholes. A law of tradition and precedent is ill suited to change and adaptation from entrenched interests. The spirit of justice has no human body. Metric codifies the material and so has lasting rational hope. A jury without a moderating code is a mob at leisure. Good luck bringing equality before the law.

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Well good luck to Nappy B with his Napoleonic Codes.

And good luck Brian with trying to navigate political life. Cause he's either going to quit when he feels like the jobs finished or he'll get murdered.
Or he becomes good enough to be co-emperor to Nappy B.

there is no in-between

 

[Magoose]

Adhoc vote count started by Magoose on May 19, 2021 at 9:52 AM, finished with 50 posts and 12 votes.

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  [X] Plan Setting the board
  -[X]I join the Men in the Front!: You will personally take command. (Morale rolls will have a +10, meaning there is a chance to not lose any morale on morale checks)
  -[X] There is Another: In a spark of genius, you've devised a plan to resolve this tricky situation, and the men seem to agree. You...(Write in, subject to QM approval)
  --[X] You agree with Dumas, for the most part, he will take the III corps to the city, but his objective will be to take the coastal defenses and establish chokepoints to relieve the sea and the supply lines, he will then attack the city and harass the enemy, to not give them time to regroup if possible. Kléber will cut the city from the outside with the I corps and prepare a siege.
  -[X] Adam
  -[X]Capture them: You are in dire need of more ships. He can capture them, but he will not light the city on fire with them. (Adam will attempt to capture the Enemy Fleet.)
  -[X] Louis
  --[X]Yes: If he wishes to fight, he will fight.

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  [X] Plan "Victory or Death "

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  • wencitofrum
  • Alexander Sturnn
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[SzechuanSauce]

Are we ever gonna mention the scourge of all pre-modern armies, you know, poor hygiene? We gonna talk about things like the plague popping up, common disease going through the army, soldiers being filthy boys and things like that?

Or gonna mention that the Egyptian campaign was really rushed so there was barely any food or water, and what was there kind of sucked, and that there tactic of living off the land wouldn't work so well in Egypt?

 

[Magoose]

Are we ever gonna mention the scourge of all pre-modern armies, you know, poor hygiene? We gonna talk about things like the plague popping up, common disease going through the army, soldiers being filthy boys and things like that?

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There are disease rolls that we do at the end of every campaign turn and after the battle, there will be many of those problems coming up, especially if we have to continue the campaign.

Supply and water Freshness are also things you need to look into after the battle is done and over.

 

[Sir_Travelsalot]

Are we ever gonna mention the scourge of all pre-modern armies, you know, poor hygiene? We gonna talk about things like the plague popping up, common disease going through the army, soldiers being filthy boys and things like that?

Or gonna mention that the Egyptian campaign was really rushed so there was barely any food or water, and what was there kind of sucked, and that there tactic of living off the land wouldn't work so well in Egypt?

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Pretty sure improving the hygiene standards in our army was like, one of the first actions done at the start of the quest. And we put a lot of effort into our logistics and supply situation precisely to avoid having to resort to foraging in Egypt.

EDIT: Hell, securing a line of supply to the Egypt campaign was how we justified this Sicily invasion in the first place.

 

[Magoose]

Pretty sure improving the hygiene standards in our army was like, one of the first actions done at the start of the quest. And we put a lot of effort into our logistics and supply situation precisely to avoid having to resort to foraging in Egypt.

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That and your currently well supplied at this moment. So you have two, three turns in Sicily before the supply is an issue, and even then, you can buy or steal from the locals.

 

[SzechuanSauce]

Pretty sure improving the hygiene standards in our army was like, one of the first actions done at the start of the quest. And we put a lot of effort into our logistics and supply situation precisely to avoid having to resort to foraging in Egypt.

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I do have my doubts its gonna be all that substantial of a difference. Poor hygiene, plague, dwindling food and water, that's always gonna be a problem and can't just be taken away with a few bags of money.

 

[Magoose]

I do have my doubts its gonna be all that substantial of a difference. Poor hygiene, plague, dwindling food and water, that's always gonna be a problem and can't just be taken away with a few bags of money.

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And it is something you are going to need to worry about.

 

[AvidFicReader]

We discussed this extensively. In fact, it contributed significantly toward the Sicilian detour. Sicilian grain, and sulfur to chase off or kill the fleas that carry plague.

 

[SzechuanSauce]

We discussed this extensively. In fact, it contributed significantly toward the Sicilian detour. Sicilian grain, and sulfur to chase off or kill the fleas that carry plague.

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And we're not getting into any trouble with this little detour?

 

[Sir_Travelsalot]

I do have my doubts its gonna be all that substantial of a difference. Poor hygiene, plague, dwindling food and water, that's always gonna be a problem and can't just be taken away with a few bags of money.

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Ultimately, all of it is irrelevant. Because outbreaks of disease in this quest, like everything else, are being abstracted to the outcomes of rolls. Our measure of improved hygiene give us a positive modifier to that roll, but it is always going to be up to the dice.