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Infernal Conundrum: [Exalted/Worm] - Part 2: Hell is Other Exalts

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Tanor said:
[ ] If you've got it, flaunt it!
--Subtlety is for lesser beings than a living avatar of the Yozis. Bring on the flesh-change!



[X] Cultured Voice
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I believe you missed the X in the box for your first vote :)

Tel Janin Aman said:
I really hope Lisa doesn't win, there are few characters I hate more.
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That's a shame. I certainly hate some versions of Lisa, but I feel like counting out certain characters entirely before you've seen how the QM is planning to write them is harsh. Never doubt the power of good writing to change your opinion of a character!

If you really just hate canon Lisa and situation or her power, then fair enough, but people's character and mannerisms are often portrayed completely differently when written by different people. Just saying, don't be unnecessarily harsh just because you've seen some horrible versions of Lisa in some fics. Sorry about the mini-rant, hope no offence was caused ;)
 
[x]If You've got, if flaunt it!
Hebert is an Infernal, they are things of transhuman brilliance! I firmly believe that taking a more obvious route if the changes will make a more interesting story and will give more conflict as well.

[x]Cultured voice.

One thing I will note is that the Urge is rather inapproritae for an Infernal, it feels like her motivation rather than something the Yozi want. An Urge is a mission objective, some task that the Yozi or their souls wish to be complete for reasons that can be interpreted as benign or evil, or even petty; these can include conquor Great Forks and caste down the gods that rule or Save Gem for the First and Forsaken Lion or destroy the healing temples of Yis-Un or heal the Lintha from degeneracy, or heck, it could be as petty as challenge all who say they are the strongest.

An urge should fufill the goals of a Yozi or impose their will or beliefs by proxy onto the world, it shouldn't be as simple as something she was already going to do. I'd suggest changing it to something more challenging, if still BB related, like unite all of the Parahumans under her control by any means necessary or subvert the PRT to the will of the Yozi.
 
[X] You've heard the voice before; you'd recognize it anywhere. (Danny)
--The worry and uncertainty in it, however, gives you pause.
 
greensun said:
[x]If You've got, if flaunt it!
Hebert is an Infernal, they are things of transhuman brilliance! I firmly believe that taking a more obvious route if the changes will make a more interesting story and will give more conflict as well.

[x]Cultured voice.

One thing I will note is that the Urge is rather inapproritae for an Infernal, it feels like her motivation rather than something the Yozi want. An Urge is a mission objective, some task that the Yozi or their souls wish to be complete for reasons that can be interpreted as benign or evil, or even petty; these can include conquor Great Forks and caste down the gods that rule or Save Gem for the First and Forsaken Lion or destroy the healing temples of Yis-Un or heal the Lintha from degeneracy, or heck, it could be as petty as challenge all who say they are the strongest.

An urge should fufill the goals of a Yozi or impose their will or beliefs by proxy onto the world, it shouldn't be as simple as something she was already going to do. I'd suggest changing it to something more challenging, if still BB related, like unite all of the Parahumans under her control by any means necessary or subvert the PRT to the will of the Yozi.
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There are reasons the Urge might seem off at first glance from the norm of a Pyrian Urge. To clarify, it's not entirely out of line of a Pyrian Urge: they're all about systems and hierarchies and enforcing conformity to them. In that time of commingling within the crysalis, enough was shared to recognize that the systems in place intended to make the city work don't. They do not function as intended. For SWLiHN, that is something that is unacceptable. They must be made to work properly, or they must be torn down and replaced with something that does. As to being too in line with Taylor's own drives...She Who Lives in Her Name is incapable of empathy. The emotions of others aren't things that register to her at all except as aberrant and illogical responses. What she does understand quite well, however, is efficiency. As of the point the quest happens, the Yozis have had quite a bit of time to get used to the idea of managing the Infernals (to the extent that they are capable of doing so; Malfeas for his part, is still all about the 'SHOUT THE ORDERS LOUDER!!!!' school of management). Assigning an initial Urge in line with what the fledgling Exalt intended to do streamlines the process of conditioning the Infernal to obey while minimizing the disruption of that hateful and chaotic 'free will' thing they regrettably require to function. It wasn't assigned because SWLiHN cares about what Taylor wants. It's simply the most efficient method of moving Taylor toward promoting the Yozi in question's agendas and aesthetics.

Your suggestion would be perfect for an Urge...if Taylor's Urge was Cecelynian. It isn't. Regardless, the other reasons for variations in her urge will come up in-game as well. I also probably should've mentioned, we'll be using The Fourth Soul, which is an Unwoven Coadjutor rewrite, which does have an impact on the way one's Urge works/is assigned.
 
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Excuse the double-post, but I figure I'll give another 20 minutes for the last of the votes to trickle in. Those of you who haven't yet cast your vote on one or the other of the options, please do so. Likewise, should you wish to change your vote, you have until then to do so.
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Voting is closed.

Update: The vote on who to encounter is a tie. Both Lisa and your Coadjutor received 7 votes within the alloted timeframe.

In the vote for subtle vs obvious alteration, however, obvious alterations wins by a single vote (6 vs 7).
 
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[X] The voice isn't one you recognize, but the sense of bewilderment they convey is mirror to your own. (Lisa)
--You're not sure why, but they sound as poleaxed as you feel right now. Still, they don't have to sound so amused by everything.
[X] If you've got it, flaunt it!
--Subtlety is for lesser beings than a living avatar of the Yozis. Bring on the flesh-change!
 
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    [X] The voice isn't one you recognize, but the sense of bewilderment they convey is mirror to your own. (Lisa)
    --You're not sure why, but they sound as poleaxed as you feel right now. Still, they don't have to sound so amused by everything.

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    [X] If you've got it, flaunt it!
    --Subtlety is for lesser beings than a living avatar of the Yozis. Bring on the flesh-change!

    have won.

    I am working on Taylor's new description, after which I'll start hammering out Chrysalis 1.2. Post should be up either laaate tonight or sometime tomorrow.
     
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    • [X] The voice isn't one you recognize, but the sense of bewilderment they convey is mirror to your own. (Lisa)
    [X] The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist.
    Thief of Words said:
    @Lyanah Infernals inherently have physical differences than their baseline mortal selves. First: there's the Exaltation tune-up, taken even further for the Yozi's sake. Your flaws, blemishes, etc. simply cease to exist. If you're past your prime then that, too, ceases to be a factor (to the point that it de-ages you back to peak youth and vitality).
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    Mechanically it varies, but I don't suppose it'd be that obvious unless Taylor raises her physicals or appearance quite a bit.

    EDIT: Dammit, never got a chance to vote on the second part.
     
    veekie said:
    [X] The voice isn't one you recognize, but the sense of bewilderment they convey is mirror to your own. (Lisa)
    [X] The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist.

    Mechanically it varies, but I don't suppose it'd be that obvious unless Taylor raises her physicals or appearance quite a bit.

    EDIT: Dammit, never got a chance to vote on the second part.
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    If it's any consolation, it wouldn't have changed the overall result, as the person who put in a late vote would have kept the net difference the same.
     
    [X] You've heard the voice a handful of times on the news. (Director Piggot)
     
    See, I'm sure Lisa will be fine if we play the big dumb demon brute and restrain our teenage desire to act like we know everything in favor of letting her act like she knows everything. :V
     
    Nothing is locked in beyond Taylor's Caste, Coadjutor-species, Urge, and the results of past voting. Tel Janin Aman and Swift: Please keep discussion in the thread civil, both of you. Tel Janin Aman: you clearly have very strong opinions about the character in question. However, at least give me a chance to try my hand at writing her before writing her off. Beyond that, quests are cooperative and democratic games. Sometimes they go in directions a particular player would prefer they not. That's just the nature of the beast. Swift: while I appreciate that you attempted to preemptively defend my writing, ad-hominem attacks are never called for, even retaliatory ones.

    In more pleasant news, I'm currently working on Chrysalis 1.2, and will add it somewhere between an hour or so from now or several hours, whenever it is that I get finished. As with the past update, there will be multiple votes involved in this one, and each of those votes has the potential to greatly impact the direction the story takes from that point on.
     
    Neat. So as someone who has no idea how Exalted works, but enjoys the quests related to the game, how much would I need to look up in order to understand how the quest will play out?
     
    kokuenDG said:
    Neat. So as someone who has no idea how Exalted works, but enjoys the quests related to the game, how much would I need to look up in order to understand how the quest will play out?
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    Infernals are somewhat unique in how they fit (or as some might argue, don't fit) within the greater context of the system. They are Celestial-equivalent (i.e: top-tier powerwise) Exalted. However, whereas other Exalted types' charmsets are all about amplifying their own abilities or enhancing and extrapolating from their innate attributes to acheive an effect, Infernal charms are less like programs executed as force multipliers and more like someone has grafted on Yozi body parts for the same purpose. Having at least some sense of the different Yozis' identities might be helpful, as a start. Beyond that, a few basics: Infernal charms are, more often than is the case for other Exalt types, permanent changes or alterations to the character's nature. Rather than operating based on Attribute or Ability scores, Infernal charms are solely limited by a character's Essence. Additionally, Infernal charms are more likely than most to be broad in their applicability...but particular about a certain thematic unity outside of which they provide no benefit. Many of them also have drawbacks that are non-optional, unlike other charmsets.
     
    Is Taylor a akuma or a green sun prince(ss)? If she is a GSP i guess her caste is Defiler considering the Yozi.
     
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    Hopefully there aren't other exalted running around. I prefer when crossovers are completely OOC problems.

    SWLIHN should just get a new king if Malfeas keeps being a asshat up his own ass and the Unconquered Sun doesn't want her help. Maybe autobot would like a administrator?

    Actually is Taylor even going to be taken to Malfeas to meet SWLIHN-chan as usual for GSP meeting their Yozi patrons after the chrysalis grotesque?
     
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    SCO said:
    SWLIHN should just get a new king if Malfeas keeps being a asshat up his own ass and the Unconquered Sun doesn't want her help. Maybe autobot would like a administrator?
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    Autobot terrifies the living fuck out of ALL the other Primordials, Yozi or otherwise.
     
    Finagle007 said:
    Autobot terrifies the living fuck out of ALL the other Primordials, Yozi or otherwise.
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    Where they're capable of fear, yes. Malfeas isn't. He just feels contempt for that particular fabrication of his all-encompassing mind. SWLiHN is likewise incapable of feeling fear. However, Auto failed to stay in his place in the hierarchy and (what's worse) betrayed it. To her, Auto is a loathsome abomination that got exactly what was deserved.
     
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